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Old 04-22-2008, 06:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Profound movies that make you think?

The best movie I think, is one that makes you think, and change the way you look at things. A movie that is not disturbing in a horrific way necessarily but certainly in a mentally disturbing way. I haven't seen many of these types of movies but I have seen a few and loved the ones I have seen

I really liked The Butterfly Effect I thought it was cool how it showed how the grass is not always greener and how love cannot be forced.

Requiem for a Dream was amazing because it showed the absolute obliteration of the american dream

American Beauty was incredible, I love the whole "I cannot remain upset for long, because there is so much beauty in the world" concept, when the movie ended I just sat there thinking how awesome the movie was.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I will admit that Fight Club was VERY enjoyable. I know it's a cliché, but as a high-school sophomore it really did help me on my path to questioning the status quo.

Solaris (the original) was absolutely fantastic. I think I would have enjoyed Citizen Kane had everyone in history not ruined the ending. American Psycho, besides being the most enjoyable movie experience you'll ever have, manages to evoke amazing questions about the nature of being.

And Darby O'Gill and the Little People made me wonder why Sean Connery didn't sing more.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have always said that American Beauty is the last great American film. There's so much about the film that is done right. Technically and emotionally, the film is above the rest.

I think the theme of getting back what you think you've lost (as personified by the youthful Angela Hayes character) is what resonates for most people.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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off the top of my head: Crash, Higher Learning, I Am Sam, The Other Sister and Pay It Forward and Nell

All of these movies made me stop and think about how I see people. They are also some of the few movies that pulled me into them to the point were I started talking during them (which is not something I do - unless I know a movie well enough to quote it). They pulled at my anger and at my heart, making see things I never really paid any attention to, and they gave me a "real" reason to look at them.

I know these are not some of the "best" made or acted movies, but they had that "Profound" effect for me.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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depends what you mean by Made You Think because the movie PRIMER is the movie that made me think the most ever. It's a great but confusing movie!

but like others have said, fightclub and movies like that definitely had an impact overall... Falling Down probably had the most effect on me when I saw it. Awesome movie!
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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KPAX left me staring at the screen for a good while after the credits stopped. It was one of the few movies that completely wowed me.

American History X made me think a lot about the state of racism in the States and is my favorite movie ever.

Crash (new one) had the same effect on me as American History X.

The Butterfly Effect was just great and hit home since at the time I thought a lot about the consequences of changing the past.

Pay it Forward was great in the concept it presented. The world really would be great if this happened. However, it also makes me think how many people has sacrificed themselves for the greater good.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The one that got me thinking was The Usual Suspects. Trying to piece together the what was true and what wasn't from Kevin Spacey's character was what made it that much better.
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Old 04-23-2008, 09:49 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Amelie

There's another one I saw recently, but I can't remember the damn name....

I agree on American History X and Crash, too..
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Syriana, Valley of Elah, and Stop-Loss.... it makes me think out out of touch Hollywood is with small-town America.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The Matrix trilogy was really deep! //laughs//

I have to agree with American History X, it really brought racism forward for me. American Psycho is on my favorites list- best comedy ever.

I would have to say that few movies made me think, other than inform me on issues I before had not considered.

That said, Mothman Prophecies, while scaring the hell out of me, really makes me wonder just what is there in our immediate universe. Similarly, there were taped lectures of Ian Xel Lungold presenting the Mayan Calendar and supposedly what the calendar meant to the Mayans. At first watch, the lectures blew my mind again as to what is there in the universe that we no longer perceive.
Granted these lectures had factual errors in it:   click to show 
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Old 04-23-2008, 03:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Rain Man
American History X
A Beautiful Mind
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
, more than the book, actually.
Primer, most definitely
Das Experiment
Girl, Interrupted
Manic
thirteen


I think the first ones are pretty standard, but the last three for actually portraying mental illness as it exists. With a little Hollywood flair to keep people interested, but more real then in previous generations.
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Crash - people listed this, but its true!

Monsieur Ibrahim - coming of age story for a boy in a Paris ghetto who befriends a Turkish man who practices Sufism and they go on a spiritual journey.

Children of Men - Oscar nominated...shoulda won...nuff said.

Baraka - Stunning visuals and sounds in this film with no plot (or is there?) or dialogue by filmmaker Ron Fricke. Go around the world without having to leave your living room!
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My Name is David
Rain Man
American History X
A Beautiful Mind
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
, more than the book, actually.
Primer, most definitely
Das Experiment
Girl, Interrupted
Manic
thirteen


I think the first ones are pretty standard, but the last three for actually portraying mental illness as it exists. With a little Hollywood flair to keep people interested, but more real then in previous generations.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was filmed mostly at the mental hospital in Salem Oregon where I lived at the time. Settle down- I lived in the town, not the hospital. My dad, who worked for the state, got my brother and I part time jobs moving stuff around, mostly lights. My brother was 15 and I was 13, wouldn't fly these days, labor laws etc... I had a blast and was paid a whole $15 a day. I was shocked when I got my check and they keep some out for taxes.

Years later I found myself working at the juvenile correctional center next door. Small shit stuck in my head that won't go away.

Anyway back your regularly scheduled thread...

I'd say my list would have to include:

Schindler's List

My Family

The Shawshank Redemption
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:04 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I agree with American History X and Pay it Forward.
Fight Club was an interesting one, but have not seen it in a while, but I watched this almost religiously in high school.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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American Beauty again. A beautiful film in all ways.
Sophie's Choice remains stunning and upsetting.
Umbrellas of Cherbourg
Days of Wine and Roses
Pieces of April
most recently, The Savages

Im a sociologist. Many films have left me awestruck in some manner whether it be the writing, film, acting, editing, story emotion, art, in other words the work, but these films are just a few of many that consistently wallop me hook, line, and sinker with the whole thingamabob.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Primer, for sure. I'm shocked so many people mentioned it--I thought it was way too tiny to be known at all!

Memento wasn't exactly profound, but it certainly made me think. I remember walking out of the theater thinking, "I need to write this down!"
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:23 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Without a doubt, the movie that made me think the most afterwards was After Life. This excellent Japanese movie is simply impossible to stop thinking about after seeing it.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:35 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This is kinda silly, but the other day my friends & I held "HestFest" and watched Charlton Heston movies.

We watched Soylent Green, and the comparison of it with yesterday, and today was actually pretty striking in regards to governance and food.
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Lost in Translation often leads me to reflect upon the nature of human relationships. I love that movie; I enjoy that it is a deep character study.
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:25 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The Battle of Angiers (Gillo Pontecorvo)
The Bicycle Thief (Vittorio De Sica)
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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American History X
Fight Club
The Life of David Gale
Schindler's List
American Beauty

Every time I can, I recommend The Life of David Gale to one of my friends because it seems that no one I know has seen it and I just found it so powerful in so many ways. I always warn them that it disturbed me a bit though, and was also quite depressing. I think it speaks volumes about it, though, that I so loved the movie when I got that reaction from it. Also, kinda interesting that Kevin Spacey seems to be in so many "make you think" movies, huh? Same goes with Edward Norton too, I guess.

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Have you seen the actual Zimbardo experiment tape? Das Experiment is VERY different from that in many ways, exaggerating the things to kinda Hollywood-ize (German Hollywood?) it. But even though the actions are not as extreme in the actual experiment, it is somewhat more disturbing to see it actually happen, and see how quickly the people changed when placed in certain roles/
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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In no particular order...

Fight Club
2001: A space odyssey
Barry Lyndon (<^just for the beauty in each scene...)
Dr Strangelove
Koyaanisqatsi
V for Vendetta (silly, but whatever)
Citizen Kane
A Clockwork Orange
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
The Great Dictator
Full Metal jacket
Trainspotting
Glory
Untergang (Downfall)
La Femme Nikita ( <3 Luc Beson)
Le Fabuleux Destin D'Amelie Poulain (The fabulous destiny of Amelie Poulain) or just "Amelie"
Mar Adentro
La Mala Educacion
Trois Couleures: Rouge, Blanc et Bleu (Three colours: red, white and blue(liberte, egalite, fraternite(?))); Blanc/White is my favourite. Fantastic.

....aaaaaaaaand I kinda wanna say The Big Lebowski and Donnie Darko, but...

Ahh, i did mention them. *shrugs*
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:01 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Some great movies so far. I love these threads that lead to new film discoveries.

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Trois Couleures: Rouge, Blanc et Bleu (Three colours: red, white and blue(liberte, egalite, fraternite(?))); Blanc/White is my favourite. Fantastic.
I remember watching all three and feeling like I had to choose a favorite, but couldn't. All three really stayed with me for quite a while. I think it's time to re-view those.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:18 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I remember watching all three and feeling like I had to choose a favorite, but couldn't. All three really stayed with me for quite a while. I think it's time to re-view those.
Maybe it's because I'm sitting in Poland and dreaming of leaving right now that I have more of an affinity with Blanc...
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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1971 - Jerry Schatzberg: The Panic In Needle Park

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Old 04-30-2008, 11:21 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Full Metal Jacket
Illustrated to me how tough the environment could be to morality of a person and how it could remove the boundaries which tend to be assumed are natural (raping the children, and shooting the higher ranks).

American history X
I only watched circa 15minutes, but that was enough. I saw the part with the curbstomp. It is permanently etched in my mind, and I can't even believe that people would be capable of coming up with such an attack. I mean, who thinks of stuff like that?

Memento.
Just the thought of never being able to have memories, which are something I often delve into to re-enjoy past experiences when I'm upset, or just to raise a smile.
Also ways of storing memories without your mind (such as the tattoos).
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:29 AM   #29 (permalink)
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The Number 23. Starring Jim Carey.

Think about it, this is post #28.
2+8=10
the date is 4/30/08
4 +30+8=36
Now take 3+6+1+0 and you get 10
Add 13 to 10 and what do you get, what? You got it - 23

Kinda weird isn't it.

Hey PlanG, you ruined my whole 23 thing. Gee.
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Old 04-30-2008, 12:07 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Sorry mate, should have thought before I posted

Just had a look at the film. Sounds an interesting concept. However, on rottentomatoes it's average review is 8%, which isn't too high

Worth a watch, or is it only the concept that makes you think; not the film?
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Sorry mate, should have thought before I posted

Just had a look at the film. Sounds an interesting concept. However, on rottentomatoes it's average review is 8%, which isn't too high

Worth a watch, or is it only the concept that makes you think; not the film?
When you watch the first time the plot takes you for a nice ride, there are some plot twists and some suspense. Then watch the extras on the DVD, Carey gives some clues about what he really thinks, while staying in the "23" mode. After you watch a second time, you realize the movie is kind of like a parody of movies of the movies of this genre, and not to be taken too seriously. When you do that you get a different appreciation of the movie.

It is certainly worth a rainy day or a Saturday night with a friend and a few glasses of wine. Afterward, I bet you spend a lot of time coming up with "23" stuff. That's what makes you think. Then if the math becomes to taxing, you can give up at 10 and always add 13, which is the real creepy number.
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Cheers. Think I may rent it out with a mate over as you said. Sounds like it could be fun.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Tarkovsky's Solaris had me thinking about what Others -- human and otherwise -- really are to us. I was on the edge of my seat. On top of that, the scenes of 1970s Tokyo as city of the future are fun.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I've liked some of the other movies on this list - the Three Colors movies are some of the best I've ever seen.

I just thought of another - Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring. It's an amazing Korean film, one of the most calm, thoughtful, meditative movies I've ever seen. I promise - if you can handle a movie that's all soul, intellect, gorgeous visuals, and little action, you will LOVE this one.
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Old 04-30-2008, 05:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:37 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:06 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2008, 06:55 PM   #38 (permalink)
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"The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada"
Shot in Texas, it has the same look and feel as "No Country for Old Men," but none of the nihilism. It is directed by and stars Tommy Lee Jones.

It will make you think about the nature of love, the banality of evil, and the possibility of redemption. This movie will stick with you forever.
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Old 05-11-2008, 12:54 AM   #39 (permalink)
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My buddy recommended to me Waking Life. I have yet to see it (can't find it in video stores), so anyone here see it?
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Old 05-11-2008, 04:26 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Amazon's got it. I might give it a whirl.
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