Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > Interests > Tilted Entertainment


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2008, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
Let's put a smile on that face
 
blahblah454's Avatar
 
Location: On the road...
What is everyones problem with cloverfield?

Personally I loved the movie. But all I read when I am looking at reviews is people crying about 911.
This movie had nothing to do with a terrorist attack that happened 7 years ago, why liken the two together? Sure it happened to be set in the city but big deal! Its a bloody monster movie, a monster that comes out of the sea! What bigger and more recognizable American city is located next to the ocean? oh yea, I forgot, there isn't one.
And why are people so upset over a monster movie taking place in Americas crown city because a terrorist attack happened there 7 bloody years ago, and yet they don't bat an eye at all these war movies that come out that depict REAL LIFE EVENTS. I just don't understand this at all. 911 never went through my head once in this movie, wait I lied, it did once time: When the building crashed to the ground I thought, that looked kinda like a demolition does, or kinda like the trade center looked like going down.

Quote:
Wow, and Robert Hawkins as a character? I'm from Omaha, NE, and that, ironically, is the name of the guy who decided to shoot up a mall here, which made national news. Personally I'm not offended by it; I thought it was actually funny, but I did see a few of the victims' families' faces at the theater I was at, and witnessed one of them getting up and leaving.
Why would someone having the same name mean they are the same person? Can't people have the same name? I bet there are hundreds of people named Robert Hawkins. Having the same name does not mean its the same character. Man people make me sick.

And even if I hated this movie I am pretty sure I would feel the same about people comparing a monster movie to a terrorist event. America needs to stop bitching and moaning about this.
blahblah454 is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 04:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
Aurally Fixated
 
allaboutmusic's Avatar
 
I haven't seen it yet, but all of my friends who have seen it have pretty much said it was a waste of their time. As I have not seen it, I have no opinion about it at present, but I have been persuaded not to spend money on watching it on a cinema.
allaboutmusic is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 04:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Getting it.
 
Charlatan's Avatar
 
Super Moderator
Location: Lion City
The only problem I have is that I haven't seen it...
__________________
"My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars."
- Old Man Luedecke
Charlatan is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 04:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
I enjoyed it.
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 04:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
Wise-ass Latino
 
QuasiMondo's Avatar
 
Location: Pretoria (Tshwane), RSA
I got motion sick and yakked all over the back of the theater seat. Regurgitated nachos is not a pretty thing to look at.
__________________
Cameron originally envisioned the Terminator as a small, unremarkable man, giving it the ability to blend in more easily. As a result, his first choice for the part was Lance Henriksen. O. J. Simpson was on the shortlist but Cameron did not think that such a nice guy could be a ruthless killer.

-From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator
QuasiMondo is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 04:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by QuasiMondo
I got motion sick and yakked all over the back of the theater seat. Regurgitated nachos is not a pretty thing to look at.
You need a stronger constitution for a gubmint job. Man up!
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 05:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
Let's put a smile on that face
 
blahblah454's Avatar
 
Location: On the road...
I loved it. I think everyone hates it because its not your average Hollywood crap that comes out. It doesn't have any American flags waving in the background. There is no definite start, introduction of characters, big problem that has to be solved, everything magically gets wrapped up and everyone lives happily ever after.

I thought this was one of the best movies I have ever seen.
blahblah454 is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 05:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
I hope there's another one! Maybe another POV from different poor bastards trying to survive while documenting the monster?
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 05:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
has all her shots.
 
mixedmedia's Avatar
 
Location: Florida
I haven't heard any complaints about it, but the emotional correlations with 9/11 as an event, not as a terrorist attack, are pretty obvious and hard to ignore. That scene when they are all running down the street to escape the cloud of debris after the collapse of a building is pretty frigging correlative, lol.

Personally, I'm not offended by it, but any movie involving a disaster in Manhattan is going to revive those memories. Can't really get away from it. Not yet, at least.

Quote:
Originally Posted by blahblah454
I loved it. I think everyone hates it because its not your average Hollywood crap that comes out. It doesn't have any American flags waving in the background. There is no definite start, introduction of characters, big problem that has to be solved, everything magically gets wrapped up and everyone lives happily ever after.

I thought this was one of the best movies I have ever seen.
I wasn't that fond of the movie only because it didn't have much impact on me. Meh.
__________________
Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus
PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

Last edited by mixedmedia; 02-16-2008 at 05:20 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
mixedmedia is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 05:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
Tilted Cat Head
 
Cynthetiq's Avatar
 
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
I saw it before it was released and as soon as I saw the building collapse and the dust cloud coming at the camera, them ducking into the store, the cloud passing the front of the window, the walking wounded covered in grey dust.

It was EXACTLY like the photos I saw at the Prince Street Gallery in SoHo. It is not much different than the rest of the news footage, just shot by all the New Yorkers that live and breathe the city.

It stung a bit to see it.

As far as it being a sore subject, it is for some since some people 7 years isn't enough time to heal the wounds opened by that day. I can tell you while I did not lose any immediate family members, the wound for me is still sore as I lost a location and building I loved visiting. Many people would go to the visitor center paying alot to see the views, when just going to the bar at Windows of the World and having a beer for $5 was a great way to pass an evening after work.

As far as being a great movie, it wasn't IMO it was a good monster movie and I love Godzilla/Gamera. I look forward to Cloverfield 2.
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Cynthetiq is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 07:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Seaver's Avatar
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
This movie made Godzilla vs. King Kong look like Schindler's List. There, I said it.
__________________
"Smite the rocks with the rod of knowledge, and fountains of unstinted wealth will gush forth." - Ashbel Smith as he laid the first cornerstone of the University of Texas
Seaver is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 07:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
You cried during Godzilla vs. King Kong?
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 08:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
Tilted Cat Head
 
Cynthetiq's Avatar
 
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
well finally dug up a full image of the monster... you can buy the toy from Hasbro.com for $99.99

http://hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=p...oduct_id=21030
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Cynthetiq is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 08:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
Groovy Hipster Nerd
 
Jove's Avatar
 
Location: Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I wasn't that fond of the movie only because it didn't have much impact on me. Meh.
I don't think the movie had much impact on anyone because the chances of a large alien/monster attacking the world is kind of low, but weirder things have happened.
Jove is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 08:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
I Confess a Shiver
 
Plan9's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonomAnny
I don't think the movie had much impact on anyone because the chances of a large alien/monster attacking the world is kind of low, but weirder things have happened.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Large Scary Monster Poised to Strike NYC
"That's what you think, bitches!"
__________________
Whatever you can carry.

"You should not drink... and bake."
Plan9 is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 09:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
It's hard to put statistics on something that's never happened.
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 09:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
lonely rolling star
 
sadistikdreams's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle.
I loved it.

It's like nothing I've ever seen before.

I think alot of people disliked it because they didn't really know about it beforehand. Yes, it is shaky camera, so you may get sick. No, you dont see the monster as much as you would in a Godzilla flick. No, there isnt a scientist who explains everything in absolute detail. And yes, at its core, its a romance movie, set in the backdrop of a disaster movie.

The whole 9-11 thing... It's very American. The connections are all there, so it's hard not to compare it.
sadistikdreams is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 09:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
sadkstik gets it! Jaws was about a father finding his place in the world, not a shark. Cloverfield was about a relationship between two people, and that's what makes it a great movie. I wasn't convinced at the start of the movie that the romantic thing would work with the monster backdrop, but by the end I really got it. It worked; Hud being there for Rob and Rob being able to set aside the logic of fleeing because he wanted it to work with Beth so much. JJ Abrams really made that work, too. The way Rob, Hud and Lily had to cross the collapsing buildings was completely intense, and then immediately after they actually found Beth. It was this perfectly intense and beautiful moment. That was a big part of why it worked so well.
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 10:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
Winter is Coming
 
Frosstbyte's Avatar
 
Location: The North
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
well finally dug up a full image of the monster... you can buy the toy from Hasbro.com for $99.99

http://hasbro.com/default.cfm?page=p...oduct_id=21030
Everything about that is disappointing and not particularly in accord with what I remember seeing in the movie. Oh well.
Frosstbyte is offline  
Old 02-16-2008, 10:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
Confused Adult
 
Shauk's Avatar
 
Location: Spokane, WA
I'm gonna uh.. "acquire" this movie now and ill get back to you later

i just watched it. I really liked it. It had me on the edge of my seat and character development was just enough for me to care about the only 2 people that mattered in the movie.

I don't wanna ruin it but it's nice to see a movie that doesn't jump to a predictable independence day style ending. "OMG lets use our macbook to save the universe!"

as far as the 9-11 thing, I don't see it. Buildings dont fall down differently due to the date on the calendar. Theres no political statement in this movie, and the people looking for one need to pull their heads out of their asses

Last edited by Shauk; 02-17-2008 at 03:57 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Shauk is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 01:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
bad craziness
 
m0rpheus's Avatar
 
Location: Guelph, Ontario
I haven't seen it yet so I can't judge. However I have had several friends go to see it and based on their responses I'm in no hurry.
Two of them thought it was absolute garbage, however I don't always trust their taste in movies. Two more thought it wasn't very good. I do trust their taste in movies. A final pair, who have almost identical taste in movies as me, told me it was just okay. Not bad but certainly not great either. If I get six responses and the best I get is indifferent then it doesn't really make me want to see it in theatres. I'll wait for the dvd.
__________________
"it never got weird enough for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
m0rpheus is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 03:53 AM   #22 (permalink)
has all her shots.
 
mixedmedia's Avatar
 
Location: Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by MonomAnny
I don't think the movie had much impact on anyone because the chances of a large alien/monster attacking the world is kind of low, but weirder things have happened.
Well, there's not much chance of cave explorers running into a gaggle of forgotten cannibalistic humanoids, either, but The Descent certainly made an impact on me. *shiver*

Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
sadkstik gets it! Jaws was about a father finding his place in the world, not a shark. Cloverfield was about a relationship between two people, and that's what makes it a great movie. I wasn't convinced at the start of the movie that the romantic thing would work with the monster backdrop, but by the end I really got it. It worked; Hud being there for Rob and Rob being able to set aside the logic of fleeing because he wanted it to work with Beth so much. JJ Abrams really made that work, too. The way Rob, Hud and Lily had to cross the collapsing buildings was completely intense, and then immediately after they actually found Beth. It was this perfectly intense and beautiful moment. That was a big part of why it worked so well.
see, I didn't buy any of that...
__________________
Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus
PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

Last edited by mixedmedia; 02-17-2008 at 03:55 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
mixedmedia is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 04:09 AM   #23 (permalink)
has a plan
 
Hain's Avatar
 
Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere
Spoiler: Hmmm people explode eh... I might see this after all.
__________________
Hain is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 04:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
has all her shots.
 
mixedmedia's Avatar
 
Location: Florida
Spoiler: Well, one does. But you don't actually see it.
__________________
Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus
PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce
mixedmedia is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 04:29 AM   #25 (permalink)
has a plan
 
Hain's Avatar
 
Location: middle of Whywouldanyonebethere
Spoiler: Damnit. [This is filler to make my spoiler looks like it means something.]
__________________
Hain is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 09:31 AM   #26 (permalink)
Devoted
 
Redlemon's Avatar
 
Donor
Location: New England
I enjoyed it, didn't mind spending matinee pricing for it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by willravel
The way Rob, Hud and Lily had to cross the collapsing buildings was completely intense, and then immediately after they actually found Beth. It was this perfectly intense and beautiful moment. That was a big part of why it worked so well.
That was the one part of the movie that vioalted my suspension of disbelief. Also, I didn't really care about the characters.
__________________
I can't read your signature. Sorry.
Redlemon is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 09:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
Tilted Cat Head
 
Cynthetiq's Avatar
 
Administrator
Location: Manhattan, NY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redlemon
I enjoyed it, didn't mind spending matinee pricing for it.
That was the one part of the movie that vioalted my suspension of disbelief. Also, I didn't really care about the characters.
yeah i didn't care about them at all, not any more than I do in any Godzilla movie. The movie really isn't about their character development, but about the monster and the monster wreaking havoc and mayem about the city.

That's why the blonde girl passed out on the sofa's backstory is on viral video, who gives a crap as to why she's passed out on the sofa and currently Rob's g/f. It's not mentioned at all in the movie.
__________________
I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not.
Cynthetiq is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 10:24 AM   #28 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
Did people really go to this movie with expectations of reasonable circumstances?

I CARED ABOUT HUD!
Willravel is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 01:33 PM   #29 (permalink)
Crazy
 
I really just didn't care for the movie and had no interest in any of the characters. It was never concerned or entertained. But I can honestly say it was what I expected...

Everyone leaving the theater acted furious. I dind't understand that.
pmb145 is offline  
Old 02-17-2008, 03:22 PM   #30 (permalink)
Eponymous
 
jewels's Avatar
 
Location: Central Central Florida
I enjoyed it. Unlike many others I've spoken with about it, I was glad it wasn't a classic sci-fi monster movie. That's been so overdone that this was refreshing.

The 9/11 correlation I could see, one of the early scenes definitely brought a flash on 9/11, but it's quickly replaced by another scene in the movie. The camera work was what you'd expect if you've ever watched anyone's home movies. I was petrified after all the talk about it but it didn't bother me in the least.

I cared about the characters we were supposed to care about. This is one of the few times where character development could not be or feel scripted. Based on the premise of the home video camera's unedited flow, I thought the writers did a top-notch job.
__________________
We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess.
Mark Twain
jewels is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 05:41 AM   #31 (permalink)
More Than You Expect
 
Manic_Skafe's Avatar
 
Location: Queens
What could've been some of the best visuals in the movie were ruined because they relied far too much on the handycam. Granted, the movie is supposed to allow us to see the attack from their perspective but all of the parts in which I should have felt tension, suspense, fear and compassion for the characters were ruined mostly because I was too busy wondering what the hell I was seeing.

That whole scene in the tunnel could've been so much better.

The medium is supposed to allow the message to flow through it. In the case of Cloverfield - it crippled it.
__________________
"Porn is a zoo of exotic animals that becomes boring upon ownership." -Nersesian
Manic_Skafe is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 10:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
Confused Adult
 
Shauk's Avatar
 
Location: Spokane, WA
I dunno, I thought it gave a more "real" feel to it, which I think was the point. No one gives a crap about a professionally shot Godzilla movie. Spoiler: The scene where the soldiers came out of nowhere in the street and started opening fire on the monster was "immersive" realism I thought. It would have been far less impressive from a professionally shot standpoint. It just gave you a real "holy shit, we're civillians and these guys have guns! feeling that wouldn't have been conveyed otherwise.
Shauk is offline  
Old 02-18-2008, 10:50 AM   #33 (permalink)
Tired
 
Esoteric's Avatar
 
Location: Florida
It's really been 7 years since the 9/11 attacks? Man time flies...

I thought the movie was pretty good. Nowhere near as good as the hype surrounding it though.
__________________
From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch
Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck
I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change
Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins
Esoteric is offline  
Old 03-02-2008, 03:58 PM   #34 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Lubeboy's Avatar
 
I thought it was awesome. I had no problem with the handy cam. It was shot better than transformers. That's all I have to say.
Lubeboy is offline  
Old 03-03-2008, 12:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
Oracle & Apollyon
 
Prophecy's Avatar
 
Location: Limbus Patrum
Quote:
Originally Posted by blahblah454
I loved it. I think everyone hates it because its not your average Hollywood crap that comes out. It doesn't have any American flags waving in the background. There is no definite start, introduction of characters, big problem that has to be solved, everything magically gets wrapped up and everyone lives happily ever after.

I thought this was one of the best movies I have ever seen.

My main issue with the movie was the ending. I left feeling like, that's it? It's over... damn, that was a waste of time. Now that said, I did enjoy everything else in the film up to the ending. It's just that the ending left a sour taste in my mouth that negates the rest of the movie. Not sure how I can explain it better than that.
__________________
La Disciplina È La Mia Spada,
La Fede È Il Mio Schermo,
Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza,
E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense.
Prophecy is offline  
Old 03-05-2008, 12:56 PM   #36 (permalink)
follower of the child's crusade?
 
The problem I had is it gave me motion sickness.

A lot of it didnt make sense, but its a B Movie, I can deal with that. I thought it was a clever take on an old genre, it was just the fact it made me sick that I had held against it.
__________________
"Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate,
for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing
hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain
without being uncovered."

The Gospel of Thomas
Strange Famous is offline  
Old 03-05-2008, 01:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
Minion of Joss
 
levite's Avatar
 
Location: The Windy City
Yeah, I thought it was a fun little piece of fluff. I don't know what everyone's problem is. It's a monster movie where the big giant monster attacks New York. Was anyone under the impression that would not result in buildings falling and people dying? To me, that's like going to see Pearl Harbor and getting upset because the Japanese unfairly surprised the Americans.

In any case, I thought the shakycam was an innovative and interesting touch, and the narrative's POV was entertaining. Also, Jessica Lucas (she played Lily) rocks my world! I think she is just ungodly hot! I thought an hour and a half of looking at her was worth most of the ticket price, anyway....
__________________
Dull sublunary lovers love,
Whose soul is sense, cannot admit
Absence, because it doth remove
That thing which elemented it.

(From "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning" by John Donne)
levite is offline  
Old 03-15-2008, 07:53 AM   #38 (permalink)
Insane
 
miko's Avatar
 
I thought it was great. I was so tense the entire movie.
I knew going in though that it wouldn't be a good idea to sit too close so i sat in the back third of the theater. The only thing that bothered me about the handycam was that at key moments you really wanted to see something that you felt was important but you couldn't because the camera was pointed at the ground or something! But that's really the whole point. We've see handycam work in movies before, but what was great about this movie was the fact that we only saw exactly what the govt saw which was just what was on that tape, and not a single thing more. That's pretty cool.
miko is offline  
Old 04-08-2008, 05:39 PM   #39 (permalink)
Crazy
 
For those people that said it's unlike anything they've ever saw; the Blair Witch Project is only 9 years old. While I was watching Cloverfield, I kept thinking one of the characters were going to yell "I threw the map in the fucking river! The damn thing is useless!".
__________________
Even if you stop the clock, it gives the right time twice a day.
Once we get out of the eighties, the nineties are going to make the sixties look like the fifties.
kofspades is offline  
Old 04-08-2008, 05:59 PM   #40 (permalink)
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
 
Willravel's Avatar
 
The difference is that Blair was poorly executed. While I appreciate that they spent less making Blair than I might spend, say, at a drug store, it clearly shows on film. Cloverfield didn't suffer from poor writing, poor acting, and poor directing.
Willravel is offline  
 

Tags
cloverfield, everyones, problem


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:51 PM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360