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Old 09-19-2006, 05:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who saw the premiere of this show? I watched it last night, and I think I'm hooked. I thought it was very well written, a lot of funny parts, and I think Matthew Perry and Bradley Whitford will work amazing together.
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dude, I watched it last night, and I am so with you. I didn't mean to - my Tivo went to it while I was ironing, so I saw the first few minutes, and that was it. I was completely sucked in. If they are 75% as good as their premiere, they'll be fantastic. I thought the camaraderie with Perry and Whitford was right on as well. It was slick - tight timing on shots and cuts, like a TV version of Ocean's Eleven. Understated coolness. This is going to be fun!
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:19 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I really enjoyed it. All that snappy Aaron Sorkin dialogue (where everyone speaks like they're getting the last word) suits the setting as well as it did on The West Wing, and the casting is very strong.

I've always liked Matthew Perry and despite his record of lame movies, he's really in his element on this show. I also have a crush on Amanda Peet.

I suppose my only worry is that there may not be enough warm characters to balance all that showbiz cynicism.
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Old 09-19-2006, 05:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I really enjoyed it. All that snappy Aaron Sorkin dialogue (where everyone speaks like they're getting the last word) suits the setting as well as it did on The West Wing, and the casting is very strong.
Ditto. I'm a huge Aaron Sorkin fan - and it looks like he's probably got another hit on his hands. I'll be watching, definitely.
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Watched the show the other night and was surprised I really enjoyed it. The characters are interesting and Matt Perry is hilarious as usual. Seems like I found a new show to occupy time.
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Old 09-19-2006, 12:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I liked it too! Alot so far.......

IMHO it's gonna have lotsa dishy insights behind the scenes of shows we all knew & (usually) liked years ago. Matt & Bradley play off each other extremely well. And Amanda Peet has a dark side that we have yet to see revealed - yeah, it could get good. And wild since it's set in Hollyweird CA. You can't beat the Sorkin & Tommy Schalame (sp.) connection. Wasn't that a hoot when they slipped about Bradly's character having a small coke problem hence insurance problem? Just like all the s**t that went down on poor Tom S. during the 3 season of "West Wing". This is some ballsy writing.

Oh, Yes!!!
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I have high hopes but I have yet to see greatness. I know its incredibly wrong and shallow to compare this to The West Wing but its hard not to. It will be hard to go from experiencing "Its Good To Be An American Moments" to "Its Good To Be Watching TV Moments." The opening Judd Hirsch diatribe was kinda contrived and old Sorkin would have shown the speech at the end and we would have marveled at it. I will keep watching with great anticipation and hope
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Watched it on Tivo last night and was immediately hooked. It might actually be my new favorite show.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I just watched the second episode and enjoyed it as much as the first, even if it's becoming harder to disguise that this is an idealistic tv fantasyland.

I like what Globe and Mail TV critic John Doyle had to say about the show in his column entitled "Who wants to watch decent TV types?"

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...Watching it, I felt all sorts of fleeting, conflicting emotions. I believe in the positive power of television, and it's gratifying to see some TV types presented as shrewd but honest, hard-working people who are very, very talented. At the same time, it struck me that the generosity toward the TV industry seemed wildly implausible. I've met a lot of people who work in television. The best and most talented of them are indeed as smart, idealistic and good-natured as the characters on Studio 60. They represent about 20 percent of the business. Most of the remaining 80 percent are more interested in screwing somebody, literally and figuratively, than in making great tv.<snip>
Like him, I'm torn between the engaging idealilsm, but checked by my nagging cynicism. We'll see how that battle bears out.

Oh, yeah. I was disappointed that we didn't get to see the "Crazy Christians" sketch.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:54 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I have been looking forward to this series since I first heard about it last spring... and now I just have to wait some more.

Did anyone else read Michael Moriarty's (Law and Order actor) diatribe against this series? I thought he was a bit of a loon before... now I'm convinced he's a total loon. He's running for President of the USA... I hope he wins!

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There were rumours, distant ones here in Canada, about why West Wing went off the air. It was John Spencer's heart attack or … well … whatever. It's gone! Thank God!!

Aaron Sorkin, the creator/writer/producer of West Wing, is back at us again with Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip . According to Roger Friedman of Fox News, who has seen the entire episode, it is not all that promising. In addition, his review adds the side story of Lorne Michaels' unsolicited, apparently unauthorized and unapproved involvement in Studio 60 as the role model for one of the main characters in Studio 60, the one played by Judd Hirsch, and brilliantly, from what I viewed in a brief, promotion clip.

Plagiarism - the script is tearing more than a page out of Paddy Chayevsky's film Network - is Hollywood's middle name. Clint Eastwood lifted the classic western Shane, in order to make Pale Rider , co-starring yours truly, and left nary a footnote in the credits. It was, I heard later, settled out of court with the Shane estate, or the Studio that produced it, or the eventual owners of Shane or, well, whatever … lawyers, lawyers, lawyers.

"That's for the lawyers to decide," say the Gods of the Silver Screen and its lesser Olympia, the small screen of television.

The highly litigious situation of an angry Lorne Michaels and an increasingly arrogant Aaron Sorkin might prove much more interesting than either Studio 60 or Mr. Michaels' long-lived triumph, Saturday Night Live.

The "party of the first part," possibly in the greatest trouble, is NBC, my former network, where I played in Law & Order .

This is obviously an in-house feud that could blow up into an ugly exit from NBC by both Mr. Michaels and Mr. Sorkin. Either of the other two major networks, ABC or CBS would most certainly welcome Mr. Michaels on board their own roster of producers.
But Mr. Sorkin?

Hmmm … in West Wing this B.O.A.F.O.B., Best Of All Friends Of Bill, painted a Clinton Administration so earnestly committed to a "Progressive" America that any other idea of America's future would seem treasonous, if not utterly unworthy of a Nielsen Rating.

Obviously, I am not a fan of Mr. Sorkin or West Wing or what he is trying to "pull off" with Studio 60.

The part I saw only has Judd Hirsch, as the Lorne Michaels Type, having a "meltdown", bursting out of a control booth to lecture all of America about what is wrong with Network Television, America's Dream of becoming Donald Trump and a Religious Right that has the United States in Progressive Retardation … oh, it's all in exclamation points and performed with utterly convincing rage by Mr. Hirsch. The show's limited success is reflected in Roger Friedman's review, and his confirmation of Sorkin's accusation that Lorne Michaels' Saturday Night Live is "never funny or relevant."

Aaron SorkinScore one for Aaron Sorkin.

However, score ten for Americans who have never looked for substance on the three major networks. With History Channel, Discovery Station, PBS and A & E, now America can surf substance when she feels like it. What does Sorkin expect? Stephen Hawking on the David Letterman Show? Nobel Prize-winning geneticist James D. Watson on the Jay Leno Show?

Yes, he does. The "Progressive" has always looked down on America. The "pursuit of happiness," or even a laugh, for that matter, has never been a consideration of "Progressives." They are making such "progress," and with such determination that mainstream American television had become the target of the Clinton Administration's Attorney General, Janet Reno. They were made to sit for three hours with that daughter of Lenin in a prestigious back room of the Willard Hotel and endured her playing Nurse Ratched of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, her treating NBC executives like in-patients, ones in great need of either electro-shock or a lobotomy.

Does NBC know that Aaron Sorkin probably agrees with her?

What was NBC doing with West Wing in the first place?

Well, that's a moderately long story.

NBC is known, at least by a Variety observer, as the network most concilliatory to the United States Government. However, that network's own politics is increasingly obvious: Progressive Liberalism; which, in short, means "anything Bill Clinton wants, Bill Clinton gets".

Roger Ailes, head of CNBC at one time, and therefore under the aegis of NBC, told me an interesting story about "freedom of speech" for NBC employers. He had told a Hillary Clinton joke on the Don Imus Radio Show and received a congratulatory call from Bob Wright, head of NBC. One hour later, he received a call from the same Mr. Wright, telling him that there will be "no more Hillary Clinton jokes!" The White House , the West Wing, had called Roger Ailes' boss and…well, that's how it works, you know? Another network, ABC, these days is now getting more than phone calls from the White House regarding its mini-series, The Path to 9/11. Letters to ABC from the Clinton Foundation may prove more powerful than the Federal Communications Commission itself. Welcome to the West Wing of The Clinton Global Initiative!

Mr. Ailes, of the "Hillary Clinton joke," subsequently didn't buck against the Progressive Liberal demands, even though he has been a conservative all his life, and finally got the great Progressive Liberal seal of approval, a cover article in the New York Times Magazine !

On the cover of another magazine blazed the headline: "The Most Influential Man in the World: Bill Clinton!"

Hmmm … New York City, my former home town, is now a Clintonograd. That state, with Hillary Clinton as Senator, is, at least from a Clinton point of view, Ken and Barbie Play Land. I liken it to North American Versailles.

Aaron Sorkin, with his new Studio 60 series, is determined to follow the advice of Paul Haggis, Academy Award winning author of Million Dollar Baby. Mr. Sorkin is now going East Berlin, Brechtian and, as Mr. Haggis advised all the other artists in the Academy Awards' audience, "We must, as Brecht said, ‘Hammer, hammer, hammer!"

Well, Judd Hirsch sure "hammers!"

Not since Mr. Chayevsky's Network and the Group Theatre's Waiting for Lefty, has a single, now so transparently Communist voice, told Americans how shameful they have been - straight into the camera and the audience's eyes,

With Aaron Sorkin upping the pitch, taking stylistic orders from higher, more "international" regions than NBC, we will see how docile that network remains before the increasingly imperial demands of a Progressive Liberalism, one that seems to be taking off the "nice guy" mask, and donning the highly effective rage of Brechtian "alienation."

"Hammer, hammer, hammer!"

As I said at the outset, the particulars of why West Wing was taken off the air … are still up for debate. However, the format of that television series would hardly support regular meltdowns by White House Staff, and that grand opportunity for Aaron Sorkin to get a lot off his chest just wasn't there. Studio 60 is Sorkin's opportunity to give one of American TV's most successful producers, Lorne Michaels, some cojones !!! No one needs the permission to do that! Not now!! The gloves are off!!!

Yes, the gloves are off in this new battle with what Progressive Liberals consider as American television's pap - nonsense, superficiality, American bourgeois sloth, middle-class complacence, resistance to a centralized power, reactionary stagnation, intellectual inertia, mongoloid stubbornness, pathetic tastes in everything , including comedy, lionization of half-wit stars and couch-potato tastes!!!

I love my America ... ever since I said, for the first time, in 1994 on my talk show, A Life Without Fear, that I would be running for President of the United States. Because of that announcement, I have pored over tomes of American history ... and, with the invaluable help of historians Joseph Ellis, David McCullough and Doris Kearns Goodwin, I am so madly in love with my nation that I sometimes scare people.

I can "hammer" too, when I'm moved to it.

Of course, I am a self-made exile, a politicized James Joyce, not in Paris ... God forbid !! ... but in the Lower Mainland of British Columbia, Canada, and absence does, indeed, make the heart grow fonder ... but ... for the likes of Aaron Sorkin to be allowed, over four years of prime time, unadulterated self-indulgence, and the despicable opportunity of first, with West Wing, telling us how it should be done -- As Bill Clinton would do it! -- and, second, for looking down on middle-class America, as France, Edmund Wilson and Senator William J. Fulbright told Mr. Sorkin, Bill Clinton and so many post-modern Americans!

I can endure being patronized. My training in theater was under British masters of that art. However, to hear the righteous hypocrisy of a man who would so patronize Lorne Michaels that he feels his show, Studio 60, is saying what Mr. Michaels would say ... if only Lorne Michaels had the courage!!

Not even I, a target of the American Reds' "New York One," versus the "Hollywood Ten," Black List, have had to endure someone as odious as Aaron Sorkin putting words in my mouth.

Hang in there, Mr. Michaels. What goes around comes around!" ESR

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Old 09-27-2006, 09:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Holy gods. The man is utterly nuts. My exact words were "what the fuck is he going on about??" as I read this.

It's just a TV show. Of course it's idealized - we already live in reality, what do we need to see a show about that for? Wow.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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We already live in reality, what do we need to see a show about that for?
That would make someone an excellent signature.

Way to go, Jess!
Everyone else? Welcome to escapism 101.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Still disappointed. I thought the musical number at the end was lame, we should have seen the sketch in question, etc. I still hope for greatness in the future. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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Still disappointed. I thought the musical number at the end was lame, we should have seen the sketch in question, etc. I still hope for greatness in the future. Keeping my fingers crossed!
I didn't think the musical number was *that* lame. The "we hope you don't mind our producer was caught doing blow" line had me laughing.

From watching the first two episodes, they've been decent.
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Old 09-28-2006, 04:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Still disappointed. I thought the musical number at the end was lame, we should have seen the sketch in question, etc. I still hope for greatness in the future. Keeping my fingers crossed!

I'd like to see the sketch as well. I howled at the musical number, I thought it was very well done.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I hope they never show us any of the finished skits. I get why they had to, but I'm kind of disappointed they showed the entire 'cold open.'

The great thing about the West Wing was that you seen very little of the finished product. You got to see all the rigamorole of manipulating a vote or writing the State of the Union without having to sit through them. That's kind of what I like about this show.
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Old 10-02-2006, 06:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Again I enjoyed the last episode. Maybe I'm just easy to please, but I think this show is great, I don't really have any criticisms. However, the newspaper articles that I've read are already spelling the demise of this show, but I don't think those are very reliable.
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Old 10-02-2006, 07:55 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I continue to enjoy the snappiness of it all.

I also enjoy seeing the snippets of the final show. I laughed out loud at the "Get in the Hole! guy" sketch. I can totally see the dragged out SNL version of that.
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I've always thought Mathew Perry was a very talented actor just waiting for the right part. I'm not sure if this is it. I only saw the premiere and thought it was good, but not great. But, I can see it getting better.
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I just saw the first episode and it's money. I think that I can safely say that it will satisify my Entourage fix.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm enjoying it so far. The funniest thing from the show to date for me was "When reached for comment, a bear said 'ROOOAR!'" I don't know why, but that slays me.
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Old 10-05-2006, 05:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I didn't really laugh at any of the other stuff from the 'show,' except that bear bit, which I thought was hilarious.

Show's getting a little preachy, but overall, a pretty good showing for Sorkin.
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I hear the ratings are not doing very well, I hope we don't lose this show, I really like it.
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Old 10-16-2006, 07:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Oct. 16th..........
Tonight's show was a real jewel. The continuing love interest part is coming along nicely.

Perfect, esp. for those of us who like Sting. Can't wait to purchase his newest CD with his songs in a classical manner on lute.
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:19 AM   #25 (permalink)
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As someone who respects Sting, but isn't a rabid fan, I'm surprised they didn't just scroll a phone number across the bottom of the screen so you could purchase the new album direct.

Highlighting the work of the the Musical guests and Hosts must be decent revenue stream for the producers, and for that reason, I have hope that it will survive low ratings.

Christine Lahti's character was a great device for revealing more from the main cast.

Oh, and I enjoyed the Nancy Grace segment. Very timely.
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Studio 60 was just picked up for the full season which for me was a big relief. I really do hope this show lasts, I like the concept, I like the actors and I like Aaron Sorkins writing.
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I missed the first part of Nevada Day, but as I watched part two it felt very familiar. Obviously that's both good and bad. It's easy to enjoy if you like Aaron Sorkin's writing, but he's not breaking any new ground. The reveal to the judge and his soft-hearted reaction (belying his previously gruff exterior), the entire episode devoted to the left wing point of view on gay marriage followed by the right wing getting the clever last word were both stylistic things very familiar from Sports Night and West Wing.
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Saw the Nevada Day episode this week & although it was somewhat interesting, the pace has slowed down SO much that I was bored with the plot.

John Goodman was perfect as the redneck judge.

What's up with Bradley Whitford? He isn't getting much on screen time and he's the main reason I wanted to like this show. The writers have spent too much time with the entire Christian Right part of this story.
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Glad to hear show was picked up for a full season - I had only heard it was on the bubble. Rating still aren't great for this, but I like the premise and the writing. Yes, it is familiar to West Wing style - but you have to start somewhere, and I think (hope) over time the show (actors, writers, directors etc.) will develop their own style. I can already sense it from the progress from the first few shows. I missed Nevada part 2 - not sure if anyone knows how I can watch it now without waiting until reruns in January....?
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