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jorgelito 02-06-2007 01:33 PM

I'm so glad the Paire "love story" has been quashed. It was probably the stupidest thing speculated about the show: a 15 year old girl hooking up with a late 20s-30s nurse channeling Keanu Reaves. No thanks. I thought the Hiro-Charlie love-line would have been more interesting or even Parkman and Audrey or Claire-Zach.

Actually, I find Peter's storyline more and more annoying. He's not very convincing and his character is just too "weenieish". The Claude Rains introduction has just made it worse as he is very annoying too, especially with that awful accent.

Plus, I found it bothersome with his retention of powers. I feel it makes him too powerful and unbalances the show although it does make an interesting contrast by establishing a Peter/Sylar binary.

Idunno, maybe it's Peter's constant playing with his hair and Keanu Reaves acting that bothers me.

What happened with the rest of the guys? I was so looking forward to Ted and Hana meeting (maybe joining forces) and perhaps even joining up with Matt.

What ever happened to the money that Micah stole from the ATMs? Did DL make him take it all back or what? Is Micah on his way to becoming a juvenile delinquent?

Then I wonder if Hana and Micah might cross paths. It only seems natural, she being able to read/hear all telecommunications messages and he being able to talk machines. Or are they being set up to face off against each other?

Still wondering how HRG got out of the cell. So does this mean that the Haitian has two powers?
1. Mind erasing
2. Power blocking?

It seems like Sylar is afraid of the Haitian.

Yeah, the Star Trek shout out was awesome - NCC-1701!!

Miss Mango 02-06-2007 02:10 PM

Claude is just a great character. I like his hands-on approach to dealing with Peter, and his comment about Peters bangs was funny as hell.

So maybe well find out that Jessica is pregnant with Petrellis 2nd baby or something (after that hotel room fling)...then there will be 2 super hero babies...?

oneofmanymen 02-08-2007 09:57 AM

Have to say I come to this thread late but have reade most of the posts here. I am a big fan of the show and I was very happy to see this. Hope to be able to connect and chat with the rest of you as the Heroes story unfolds.

YaWhateva 02-08-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito
Still wondering how HRG got out of the cell. So does this mean that the Haitian has two powers?
1. Mind erasing
2. Power blocking?

I thought it was well established that the Haitian could block powers.

jorgelito 02-08-2007 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva
I thought it was well established that the Haitian could block powers.

I don't think it has ever been confirmed.

micah67 02-08-2007 05:04 PM

Maybe not confirmed but every time CopMan tries to read someone's mind and can't, the camera pans to HaitianMan lurking nearby focusing on him. It's happened at least twice.

YaWhateva 02-08-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by micah67
Maybe not confirmed but every time CopMan tries to read someone's mind and can't, the camera pans to HaitianMan lurking nearby focusing on him. It's happened at least twice.

And the reason why Sylar was powerless when captured.

Siege 02-08-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by YaWhateva
And the reason why Sylar was powerless when captured.

It may be possible that the haitain can block out powers that deal with the mind. ie: mind reading, telekinesis.

If that is the case, nikki in her jessica form will still be super strong.

YaWhateva 02-08-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Siege
It may be possible that the haitain can block out powers that deal with the mind. ie: mind reading, telekinesis.

If that is the case, nikki in her jessica form will still be super strong.

true, his mind erasing powers could just be extended to stopping mind powers when he is in the vicinity.

jorgelito 02-08-2007 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Siege
It may be possible that the haitain can block out powers that deal with the mind. ie: mind reading, telekinesis.

If that is the case, nikki in her jessica form will still be super strong.

Ahhh, but isn't Jessica a manifestation of her "mind"? I realize we can infer that the Haitian has "power blocking" ability per se, but it was never really stated.

Because if the Haitian can block all abilities, then he becomes really powerful? What happens if and when he meets Peter? Will the Haitian block Peter's ability to absorb his ability to block abilities?

I'm going to bed....

ratbastid 02-09-2007 05:20 AM

I think it's been pretty strongly implied that the Haitian Sensation is a psy blocker as well as a memory eraser. I can't think he'd be able to stop Ted from nuking out, for instance.

Mondak 02-09-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Siege
If that is the case, nikki in her jessica form will still be super strong.

Or maybe like the artist, she only THINKS she can't use her powers when she is Jessica. I figure the story line on her will be her own personal triumph over Nikki at a time when she is needed most - hence becoming a true hero as some others have done.

The artist beat an addiction, Peter is working on something, Matt is working on his honesty with himself and his wife, DL is trying to become a dad. . . this is how the writers endear the characters to us. This is how they make the show compelling even though we have no powers (or at least none of YOU do . . . )

micah67 02-09-2007 10:04 AM

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This is how they make the show compelling even though we have no powers (or at least none of YOU do . . . )

My name's on the list.

Mondak 02-12-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by micah67
My name's on the list.

Wrong Michah. . .

micah67 02-12-2007 01:01 PM

I pretty sure it's me; I get this strange feeling every time Niki (Ali Larter) calls my name... ;)

jorgelito 02-12-2007 03:47 PM

For all of you who are so sure that the Haitian has indeed "been confirmed" as being able to block powers, then why was Nathan able to fly away? Also, if that's true, then all they have to do is have the Haitian stand next to Peter to prevent New York from exploding. He could then block Peter's powers right?

The blocking of "mind-based" powers sounds a bit more reasonable. I'm sure we will find out soon enough about the Haitian.

Mondak 02-13-2007 08:51 AM

Some thoughts. . .

If I am ever assassinated, please make it a 6 ft tall blond Ali Larter in a black pants suit and high heels. By the FSM, that was a hot outfit. Better than Lingerie or a bikini if you ask me.

If Syler kills Nikki / Jessica, what exactly would he get? Going back to my previous post's theory, I think Nikki had this multiple personality disorder thing independent of the super power. Jess just knows how to exploit it better since she is more in tune with Nikki's subconscious mind. At least that is how it OUGHT to work. . .

I am sad that Matt took the diamonds. Life is screwing him right now, but compromising your morals just makes you rot inside no matter who the diamonds belonged to.

Primatech - who owns this thing? You figure the most likely person is Linderman right? That would be a little less interesting though wouldn't it? I mean to even a casual viewer, Linderman is tied to everything. They also haven't shown him a la M. Night Shyamalan. It would be better writing if that was a sucker hole for us all to fall into and instead it was someone else that really held the puppet master's strings. How about Nathan and Peter's mom? That would be pretty neato. Incidentally, it was nice to see a bit of good in Nathan this week. He wanted to do the right thing despite his circumstances.

Two weeks. . . is that all we have? Correct me if I am wrong, but so far I can't see any examples of any of the heros changing the future (the future as seen in person by Hiro or that depicted by Isaac). Help me out with this one. Not sure. So Isaac is dead soon and the city blows up. What happens to the show after that? How much time has passed so far (not including flashbacks and travels back in time)? Lets call the "start" when Hiro and Ando leave for the US. Any idea?

ratbastid 02-13-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito
For all of you who are so sure that the Haitian has indeed "been confirmed" as being able to block powers, then why was Nathan able to fly away? Also, if that's true, then all they have to do is have the Haitian stand next to Peter to prevent New York from exploding. He could then block Peter's powers right?

The blocking of "mind-based" powers sounds a bit more reasonable. I'm sure we will find out soon enough about the Haitian.

He's a psy blocker, that's all. Physical powers like flying, tear-the-motherfucka-in-half super strength, and going nuclear, he has no power over.

There are certain heroes whose powers, while not "under control" require a certain amount of volition. If Hatian came up against Jessica, he could presumably mind-wipe her and render her harmless. He could likewise take away all memory of flying from Nathan. If he took Ted's memory, though, Ted would probably just explode.

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Originally Posted by Mondak
If I am ever assassinated, please make it a 6 ft tall blond Ali Larter in a black pants suit and high heels. By the FSM, that was a hot outfit. Better than Lingerie or a bikini if you ask me.

Oh MAN. Her scene in the stairs with Parker.... She can tear me in half any day.

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Originally Posted by Mondak
It would be better writing if that was a sucker hole for us all to fall into and instead it was someone else that really held the puppet master's strings. How about Nathan and Peter's mom? That would be pretty neato.

That's exactly who I was thinking of. Mama Petrelli is Linderman!

Either that or Micah...

oneofmanymen 02-17-2007 08:31 AM

I was very surprised to see Nathan have feelings about the whole think as well. I didn't think he was shakable at all, especially since he jumped out of the car on his wife and left her to possibly die. I do think his and Peers mom is going to come out as something significant as well. But I don't think it will be Linderman..

YaWhateva 02-17-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by oneofmanymen
I was very surprised to see Nathan have feelings about the whole think as well. I didn't think he was shakable at all, especially since he jumped out of the car on his wife and left her to possibly die. I do think his and Peers mom is going to come out as something significant as well. But I don't think it will be Linderman..

Nathan flying out of the car was unintentional. It was when his powers first manifested and he was unable to control it.

Mondak 02-20-2007 02:19 PM

I thought this week's episode was one of the best. Peter flying was a cool moment and I always like when characters who we spent time getting to know are killed off. Nice.

BTW - Peter doesn't have any powers that save OTHER people lives does he? Maybe she is not dead yet.

Siege 02-20-2007 02:45 PM

I don't understand how Simone can be dead though. She is near Peter when he explodes.

Mondak 02-20-2007 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Siege
I don't understand how Simone can be dead though. She is near Peter when he explodes.

I was wondering about things like this a couple posts ago. . .

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Originally Posted by Mondak
Two weeks have gone by. . . is that all we have? Correct me if I am wrong, but so far I can't see any examples of any of the heros changing the future (the future as seen in person by Hiro or that depicted by Isaac). Help me out with this one. Not sure. So Isaac is dead soon and the city blows up. What happens to the show after that? How much time has passed so far (not including flashbacks and travels back in time)? Lets call the "start" when Hiro and Ando leave for the US. Any idea?

The accounts we have of Peter blowing up are in his dreams . . . which lets face it are DREAMS. . . and Issac's paintings. His paintings have a degree of interpretation to them as well. Remember that Peter was flying in the one (really he was falling at that point) and Hero was fighting a Dinosaur in another (model at a museum). Maybe Isaac was painting Peter's dreams and not the future. . . I dunno.

jorgelito 02-20-2007 10:08 PM

Ugh, this series is starting to drag.

I find Peter to be very annoying. What a little whiny bitch, he is easily my least favorite character on the show. Plus it's getting a little ridiculous that he's getting so powerful. He was very mean to Isaac for no good reason. I hope Claude has disappeared for good. He was such a lame character and that weak-ass British accent is so bad.

I am so glad Simone was killed. She was really getting annoying too. No redeeming value at all. What a heartless bitch.

Hiro needs to grow up. His little boy act is getting old fast. What a wuss!! Hopefully they will go back to developing his storyline and character. It sucks that Ando is going back. I thought he was a good pairing with Hiro.

The Mohinder-Sylar story is getting real creepy. And I really wish they would stop introducing these characters just to have them killed off. I wanted to know more about Dale and even Zane from the last episode. I found it really interesting that Mohinder views the abilities almost like a virus. He sounded almost sinister when he mentioned he wanted to "help" them by giving them an inhibitor. Yikes!! I don't think Sylar would like that... Or maybe he is th key to stopping Sylar if he gives the inhibitor thingy to Sylar and takes away his powers.

I think Claire has finally lost it or at least on the verge of doing so. She's been through too much, especially for a teenager. Poor kid.

I am pretty pysched about getting the Ted-Hanna-Matt thingy, even if it did take a few weeks. I totally want to see Ted throwing radioactive fireballs.

Man, Matt, you are sinking deeper and deeper.... I thought he was going to return the diamonds to Linderman, putting him in Vegas. Maybe getting a reward or whatever, but man, he just stole Linderman's diamonds.... bad, very bad. He's gonna showdown with Jessica again.

The dreams are just that - dreams. Peter was known as the Dreamer earlier on. I guess that was his "power" sort of. There's supposed to be some sort of connection with him, the dreams, Charles Deveaux, and the little Indian kid that appears in people's dreams. But it seems like the writers ditched that idea or something.

I still like the series alot but I'm getting a bit antsy. There doesn't appear to be an end in sight. Too many characters or something.

Oh yeah, the Stan Lee cameo was priceless. But the Star Trek thing Hiro does has got to stop (you're overdoing it).

Fremen 02-21-2007 01:51 AM

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I hope Claude has disappeared for good. He was such a lame character and that weak-ass British accent is so bad.
The actor (Christopher Eccleston) is from Britain. ;)
He was Doctor Who in Season One of the new series.

:thumbsup:

jorgelito 02-21-2007 02:55 AM

Sure, sure, I know that. It's just that I find his accent and character to be highly irritating. Something about that regional accent.

Seer666 02-21-2007 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jorgelito
The dreams are just that - dreams. Peter was known as the Dreamer earlier on. I guess that was his "power" sort of. There's supposed to be some sort of connection with him, the dreams, Charles Deveaux, and the little Indian kid that appears in people's dreams. But it seems like the writers ditched that idea or something.

Peter is an empath. That was obviouse to me from the get go, with Simones father. that is why he was a good nurse. That is where all his powers stem from. I don't think he explodes. I think he saw the explosion from the point of view of nuke boy. His empathy just showed the view as first person, so he THINKS it's him that explodes. It's why he has to think about the person who's power he wants to use. He has to "feel" them. Hum, I wonder if that would mean that if he dreams about someone, touches them empathicly like that, can he use their power without ever actually meeting them in real life?

Daval 02-21-2007 06:07 AM

I just watched the episode last night and loved it. Unfortunately my PVR recording ended in the middle of the fight between Isaac and Peter. Can someone please recap what happened? How did simone die? What else did I miss? Did this episode run long or did my PVR screw up?

Dave

Siege 02-21-2007 09:52 AM

isaac has a gun which he aims at peter. peter goes invisible. isaac hears something and fires. It turns out he shoots simone

pixelbend 02-21-2007 11:11 AM

If Sylar is having trouble controlling his super-hearing, how can he ride in a car with the Doc? An iPod is killing him from 40 feet away.

BTW, nice cameo from Stan the Man. Excelsior!

YaWhateva 02-21-2007 02:24 PM

I loved the episode this week.

A few questions are coming to mind: If Peter's dreams are true, then how is Simone in his dreams during the explosion? I'm starting to think maybe his dreams show what might happen, but the details are sketchy?

Also, remember how future Hiro said that he didn't recognize Peter without his scar? How does he get the scar? I took it to mean from the explosion, and somehow he lives (through using clair's ability, kind of a stretch though).

I liked seeing the sort of darker side of Peter, during the fight with Isaac. Him using Sylar's telekinesis hinted at that. I think Peter is going to go through what Sylar did since they are both gaining powers at a tremendous rate. He will go through some moral trial where he could either become a major bad guy or a major good guy. I think in the end he will become the anti-Sylar.

Miss Mango 02-22-2007 01:13 AM

I wonder how long Sylar is planning to use the "I'm Zane" charade? If he continues what he's doing, Mohinder's going to notice.

fresnelly 02-22-2007 01:45 PM

That's the thing about Sylar. He's not just evil. He's also a dick.

shakran 02-22-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Daval
I just watched the episode last night and loved it. Unfortunately my PVR recording ended in the middle of the fight between Isaac and Peter. Can someone please recap what happened? How did simone die? What else did I miss? Did this episode run long or did my PVR screw up?

Dave


Just so everyone knows, if you want to see last week's episode (or any of 'em for that matter if I recall) just go to http://www.nbc.com/heroes and click on "miss an episode."

PoweredByPorn 02-22-2007 02:30 PM

Poor Zane. My home town gets a hero, and he gets killed his first episode. I'm a little bitter about that.

That rant's a couple weeks late, I know.

And I'm looking foreward to find out exactly who HRG works for. Still not sure about him... though his methods are questionable (having the Haitian erase memories left and right), he seems to genuinely care about Claire's well-being (getting her taken off Pappa Saresh's list, for a start). And he said Sylar deserved to die, but he wasn't authorized to kill him.

jorgelito 02-23-2007 11:32 AM

Oooh, yeah this week we should be finding out a lot about HRG. I'm guessing we'll get a "origins" type episode. I wonder how the showdown between Matt, Ted and HRG will go down. I'm not sure Hannah will be there though cause I think she went after HRG's boss. That's who she really want to take down. I think HRG is generally speaking, "good". But it will be interesting to find out more of the "why" and "what" of their organization.

Lots of questions there. Did the org give them their abilities or is it really genetic mutation (evolution)? Is it Linderman at the top there? What's with the catch and release program?

Well, we do know that HRG had a comprehensive training program going on in Alaska where they trained Hannah. And then that they send the "heroes" out on missions like Hannah's African mission. But they are not tied in with the government.

I'm with you on the intro-then-kill a new character thing. It'd be nice to have them around a bit longer. But then again, the cast is getting to be too big and too many storylines already.

Sorcha 02-23-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pixelbend
If Sylar is having trouble controlling his super-hearing, how can he ride in a car with the Doc? An iPod is killing him from 40 feet away.

Well, I got the impression it wasn't the iPod, but rather perhaps something to do with the fact he killed that woman, the method he uses to steal powers. The flashbacks, iirc, seemed to focus more on her than on her music.

jorgelito 02-23-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorcha
Well, I got the impression it wasn't the iPod, but rather perhaps something to do with the fact he killed that woman, the method he uses to steal powers. The flashbacks, iirc, seemed to focus more on her than on her music.

That's interesting insight. I also thought it was the iPod that was bothering him cause he couldn't control it yet. I wonder if the show will elaborate more on this.

If what you speculate is correct, that would seem to imply that Sylar has a conscience? Despite the general ambiguity of the characters' in the show alliances (good v evil), it seemed pretty clear that Sylar was evil or at least bad-getting worse. The quest and lust for more power has further warped Sylar's mind. He certainly kills with reckless abandon and it is not just limited to people with abilities. He also takes innocent lives like the truck driver in Texas, his "torture" of Mrs. Bennet, all demonstrate a raised level of psychosis. Same with Peter. In some ways, you can see Peter heading down a similar path ala "power corrupts" etc. The guy is getting worse and revealed his dark side in his cruel treatment of Isaac.

Miss Mango 02-23-2007 05:25 PM

I wonder how long Sylar is planning to use the "I'm Zane" charade? If he continues what he's doing, Mohinder's going to notice.

GoldenOuroboros 02-23-2007 08:22 PM

I think his headaches were more the getting used to the powers he had just aquired, as she stated she had bad headaches and things at the start as well..


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