Dizzet vs. Nancy - Page 5 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

kramus · 06-07-2005, 07:56 AM

. . . the key is "jolted" . . .

Nancy · 06-07-2005, 11:22 AM

^^ None of the spectators are allowed to help Kramus, shame on you!

Coppertop · 06-07-2005, 12:29 PM

Jason can easily knock some sense into the Joker. Methinks Nancy is scared.

kramus · 06-07-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy

^^ None of the spectators are allowed to help Kramus, shame on you!

I was just worried that the Gentleman's Joust was snarling up in non-issues - me bad for my mis-reading. I guess I'll have to spank your Avatar in a reverse psychology move to get me more on track

carry on and No More Direct Comments from the attic dweller

Dizzet · 06-07-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy

Furthermore "pain" doesn't start with J either ergo you can't use that

Well thats why i draw Jason to make the pain... But if this is not accetable then i will throw the towel in the ring. Winning isent that important to me...

Gimmick · 06-07-2005, 10:55 PM

Im new to this and this is the best thread Ive found so far. You guys cant call it quits so early in the game over technicallities! Keep going!

Nancy · 06-07-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

Jason can easily knock some sense into the Joker. Methinks Nancy is scared.

Not really, no.

I've explained it all before; "pain" caused by a punch in the head (which doesn't start with "J") doesn't stop Joker from being narcissistic. You don't see modern hospitals use pain to cure narcissism do ya?

I'd accept either torture or a shrink but as neither of those start with J he can't use them as a counterattack.

It seems that we can't come to an agreement on this issue so I guess we have to stop the battle.

K-Wise · 06-07-2005, 11:38 PM

Dammit!

This was gettin good

. The first was aweful hilarious

Asta!!

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy

Not really, no.

I've explained it all before; "pain" caused by a punch in the head (which doesn't start with "J") doesn't stop Joker from being narcissistic. You don't see modern hospitals use pain to cure narcissism do ya?

I'd accept either torture or a shrink but as neither of those start with J he can't use them as a counterattack.

It seems that we can't come to an agreement on this issue so I guess we have to stop the battle.

Well its the same with Neo its a punch but Neo who do it... But here it is Jason, am i coming trough at all...

And im not stoping him from being narcissistic Jason is forcing him with violence to make him get the knife...

jwoody · 06-08-2005, 12:16 AM

I recieved a reply from a well respected author of a book on narcissism, however he has asked that I do not associate his name with the following. I can respect that, you'll just have to take my word for it.

Considering there is only one book on narcissism, it shouldn't be difficult to find out who he is.

Quote:

Greetings –

There are two main hereditary traits that underlie human social activity: narcissism and aggression. We shall assume that the Joker is a narcissistic N type, in whom the lack of the trait of perfectionism (P) and adverse environmental forces (especially “nurture”) have led to a pathological state of megalomania. (The traits of narcissism, N, and aggression, A, can occur either separately or together. The trait P is a mediator of the N and A traits, and need not be present in the human character structure).

The broader question that you are asking is: when the traits A or N assume pathological proportions in a given individual, what are appropriate countermeasures?

As a matter of principle, we do not condone the use of force except as a last resort. But sometimes an individual’s malevolent deeds, or threats, make the use of force an option, or even expedient.

We shall assume that the Joker’s state of mind is such that he is a visible threat to public health and safety. In such a case the use of force could have two possible objectives: (1) it could stop a malevolent act in its tracks and actually save the lives of innocents being under attack, or (2) it could act as a signal that the malevolent behavior is recognized for what it is and will not be condoned.

You do not specify exactly what the Joker is in the process of conjuring, but we shall assume that the use of force is justified. In that case, a sharp blow to the back of the head by Jason may indeed be appropriate, and could act as positive countermeasure relevant to both (1) and (2) above.

A non-fatal sharp blow to the back of the head could be of at least two types:

Type A. a blow of moderate force causing no permanent brain damage, but – indeed – stunning the individual and causing him to “snap out of it” temporarily.

Type B. a severe blow causing some brain damage, leading to a diminution of cognitive faculties (ability to think, learn, etc.) or of motor abilities (ability to move, etc. in a coordinated fashion).

To give the Joker a last chance to reform his evil ways, we ourselves would instruct Jason to deliver a Type A blow, reserving for the future the possibility of a Type B blow.

You must realize, however, that the trait of narcissism is a genetic trait that is hard-wired into our personality structure. Although we cannot change the Joker’s personality very much, we sure can change his behavior!

Regards,
##

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 12:25 AM

WTF jwoody he answered youer email...

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzet

Well its the same with Neo its a punch but Neo who do it... But here it is Jason, am i coming trough at all...

And im not stoping him from being narcissistic Jason is forcing him with violence to make him get the knife...

Neo can easily kick Jango Fett's ass pal, but a punch from Jason won't remove narsicism permantently.

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 02:40 AM

Wow, the specialist replied!

I'm still not going to accept a punch as a counterattack given the fact that there are 2 possible outcomes of such a punch - not one. Further more should the punch make Joker snap out of it, it'll only be temporarily like the good author said, not permantently, which means that when he comes to his senses Joker won't grab the knife and I'll win.

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy

Neo can easily kick Jango Fett's ass pal, but a punch from Jason won't remove narsicism permantently.

Thats not my point... you say a punch dont start with J then i cant use it... And its not my intent to remove the narsicism but to force the joker to take the knife anyway... Or does narsicism work that way that you dont care if a huge massmurder begins to hurt you to do a thing....

K-Wise · 06-08-2005, 03:00 AM

It doesn't matter. The rules say you combat the others drawing. He's having Jason punch his own attack. He should have attacked the mirror as that was your counter. The whole narcisism thing isn't exactly something you can combat though. Weird move. Dunno how you'd beat it, since the battle is over I'd probably just have ignored it and moved on back to the knife.

Asta!!

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by K-Wise

The rules say you combat the others drawing.

Asta!!

Yeah but it is pretty hard when youer own drawing become the others drawing

healer · 06-08-2005, 03:08 AM

All good things yada yada...

K-Wise · 06-08-2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzet

Yeah but it is pretty hard when youer own drawing become the others drawing

wut eva

Asta!!

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzet

Thats not my point... you say a punch dont start with J then i cant use it... And its not my intent to remove the narsicism but to force the joker to take the knife anyway... Or does narsicism work that way that you dont care if a huge massmurder begins to hurt you to do a thing....

"Jason" was your counterattack and his particular skill is not to force someone into doing something. He's just good at beating people up, nothing more. You can't force Joker to restrain from taking the knife as force doesn't start with J either.

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy

"Jason" was your counterattack and his particular skill is not to force someone into doing something. He's just good at beating people up, nothing more. You can't force Joker to restrain from taking the knife as force doesn't start with J either.

Well is normans particular skill to hang on to a flying glass jar with nitroglycerin

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by K-Wise

It doesn't matter. The rules say you combat the others drawing. He's having Jason punch his own attack. He should have attacked the mirror as that was your counter. The whole narcisism thing isn't exactly something you can combat though. Weird move. Dunno how you'd beat it, since the battle is over I'd probably just have ignored it and moved on back to the knife.

Asta!!

No it was a brilliant move to choose narcissism as it is practially impossible to beat. A shrink would be able to remove it but Dizzet can't use that as a counterattack given the rules.

There's no point in attacking the mirror as it's only an xtra thing I chose to draw to enhance the idea of his narcissism, as narcissistic people often contemplate themselves in a mirror. Removing the mirror won't stop him from being narcissistic either as it is a mental illess of some sort.

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzet

Well is normans particular skill to hang on to a flying glass jar with nitroglycerin

I thought that by "Norman - the fattest guy in the world" it's pretty obvious what his "talent" is.

There's no point in discussing this further as we can't come to an agreement on this issue. This battle is finished.

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 04:24 AM

Sorry guys it sounds like the battle is over... Well hope you enjoyed it so far...

Coppertop · 06-08-2005, 11:59 AM

Wow. Was this thread moved to Tilted Politics when I wasn't looking? Whatever happened to doing these things for fun? Is it really that important to dissect it so?

Kinda takes the fun out of it, no?

kramus · 06-08-2005, 12:09 PM

Off the top of my head there are a half dozen "J" counters that at least would give the battle a fighting chance (

). Surely there is still time to reconsider and rejoin the contest.

Ishmal · 06-08-2005, 05:21 PM

hmmm...

bugger...

looks like they agree 2 disagree...

any1 else goin to start a battle in this ones place???

sadistikdreams · 06-08-2005, 06:02 PM

oh man. saddness.

and, ishmal, im always up for a challenge. anyone wanna take me on?

Ishmal · 06-08-2005, 06:05 PM

COME ON PPL!!!

we need a challenger for sadistikdreams...

i would but i can't draw...

boredom · 06-08-2005, 06:07 PM

This has to be the greatest tandeum drawing thread ever

mmm...kyle · 06-08-2005, 06:26 PM

Well, looks like a dissapointing end to a great thread *sniff*, t'was good while it lasted guys...

/edit: looking back, surely if we're getting technical you could go back to the point where nancy used 'Norman, the world's fatest guy'... surely just making someone up and giving them a name that begins with the letter you are using shouldnt really be allowed, otherwise Dizzet could just have 'Jason...the world renowned curer of narcissism' or something to that effect...

K-Wise · 06-08-2005, 07:01 PM

Well Nancy if we REALLY wanted to get technical here the Joker could never be a Narcisist anyway could he? I mean his face is disfigured. It's why he paints it. He pretty much hates his face.

Asta!!

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 10:11 PM

Technically the Joker has never existed - neither has John Connor

And why would I even try to stop him from fighting off Skynet? Skynet is bad, BAD!

Perhaps we should just stick to real things the next time..

Nancy · 06-08-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sadistikdreams

oh man. saddness.

and, ishmal, im always up for a challenge. anyone wanna take me on?

I'm up for it. I was going to fight against Doodlebird but he never replied

Ishmal · 06-08-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sadistikdreams

im always up for a challenge. anyone wanna take me on?

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Originally Posted by Nancy

I'm up for it.

YES!!!

and let another battle begin...

also,

if this battle is truely over i think we need the winner & loser portraits don't we???
or was that taken out of the rules this time??? Nancy?? Dizzet?

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmal

also,
if this battle is truely over i think we need the winner & loser portraits don't we???
or was that taken out of the rules this time??? Nancy?? Dizzet?

Yeah there is just one problem we need a winner and a loser...

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coppertop

Wow. Was this thread moved to Tilted Politics when I wasn't looking? Whatever happened to doing these things for fun? Is it really that important to dissect it so?

Kinda takes the fun out of it, no?

Well my counter attack was not accetable so sorry this couldent carry on...

Ishmal · 06-08-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dizzet

Yeah there is just one problem we need a winner and a loser...

ummm...

yes that is a problem...

i guess u and Nancy will have to decide between yourselves whether(sp) Jason counted as the last post or if it was Narcissism that won...

have fun with that decision...

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmal

ummm...

yes that is a problem...

i guess u and Nancy will have to decide between yourselves whether(sp) Jason counted as the last post or if it was Narcissism that won...

have fun with that decision...

Well dont think we ever is going to agree on that... But i could make a round draw drawing...

Ishmal · 06-08-2005, 11:29 PM

yer...

you both should do a draw/end of round drawing...

that'll be cool...

what you think Nancy???

(i wont ask Dizzet as it was his idea so i assume he'll do it)

Dizzet · 06-08-2005, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishmal

yer...
(i wont ask Dizzet as it was his idea so i assume he'll do it)

Im already on it...

06-07-2005, 07:56 AM	#161 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	. . . the key is "jolted" . . . __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

06-07-2005, 11:22 AM	#162 (permalink)
Nancy Femme Fatale Location: Elysium	^^ None of the spectators are allowed to help Kramus, shame on you! __________________ I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.

06-07-2005, 11:38 PM	#168 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Dammit! This was gettin good . The first was aweful hilarious Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

06-08-2005, 12:25 AM	#171 (permalink)
Dizzet Psycho Location: Denmark	WTF jwoody he answered youer email... __________________ I am a pretty little Girl

06-08-2005, 02:40 AM	#173 (permalink)
Nancy Femme Fatale Location: Elysium	Wow, the specialist replied! I'm still not going to accept a punch as a counterattack given the fact that there are 2 possible outcomes of such a punch - not one. Further more should the punch make Joker snap out of it, it'll only be temporarily like the good author said, not permantently, which means that when he comes to his senses Joker won't grab the knife and I'll win. __________________ I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.

06-07-2005, 12:29 PM	#163 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Jason can easily knock some sense into the Joker. Methinks Nancy is scared.

06-07-2005, 10:55 PM	#166 (permalink)
Gimmick Upright Location: Where the Mormons run rampid, and six wives is a must!	Im new to this and this is the best thread Ive found so far. You guys cant call it quits so early in the game over technicallities! Keep going!

06-08-2005, 03:00 AM	#175 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	It doesn't matter. The rules say you combat the others drawing. He's having Jason punch his own attack. He should have attacked the mirror as that was your counter. The whole narcisism thing isn't exactly something you can combat though. Weird move. Dunno how you'd beat it, since the battle is over I'd probably just have ignored it and moved on back to the knife. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

06-08-2005, 03:08 AM	#177 (permalink)
healer Found my way back Location: South Africa	All good things yada yada...

06-08-2005, 04:24 AM	#183 (permalink)
Dizzet Psycho Location: Denmark	Sorry guys it sounds like the battle is over... Well hope you enjoyed it so far... __________________ I am a pretty little Girl

06-08-2005, 11:59 AM	#184 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Wow. Was this thread moved to Tilted Politics when I wasn't looking? Whatever happened to doing these things for fun? Is it really that important to dissect it so? Kinda takes the fun out of it, no?

06-08-2005, 12:09 PM	#185 (permalink)
kramus loving the curves Location: my Lady's manor	Off the top of my head there are a half dozen "J" counters that at least would give the battle a fighting chance (). Surely there is still time to reconsider and rejoin the contest. __________________ And now to disengage the clutch of the forebrain ... I'm going with this - if you like artwork visit http://markfineart.ca

06-08-2005, 05:21 PM	#186 (permalink)
Ishmal Wicked Clown Location: House Of Horrors	hmmm... bugger... looks like they agree 2 disagree... any1 else goin to start a battle in this ones place??? __________________ "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."

06-08-2005, 06:02 PM	#187 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	oh man. saddness. and, ishmal, im always up for a challenge. anyone wanna take me on? __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

06-08-2005, 06:05 PM	#188 (permalink)
Ishmal Wicked Clown Location: House Of Horrors	COME ON PPL!!! we need a challenger for sadistikdreams... i would but i can't draw... __________________ "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."

06-08-2005, 06:07 PM	#189 (permalink)
boredom Insane Location: California	This has to be the greatest tandeum drawing thread ever __________________ Wiggum: Find anything this time, boys? Cop: Uh, no sign of him, Chief. Wiggum: Princess Opal? Opal: I see nothing here, but I'm afraid it's splitsville for Delta Burke and Major Dad. Wiggum: But they seem so happy! -- ``Bart the Murderer''

06-08-2005, 06:26 PM	#190 (permalink)
mmm...kyle Tilted Location: Sitting by the tyne	Well, looks like a dissapointing end to a great thread sniff, t'was good while it lasted guys... /edit: looking back, surely if we're getting technical you could go back to the point where nancy used 'Norman, the world's fatest guy'... surely just making someone up and giving them a name that begins with the letter you are using shouldnt really be allowed, otherwise Dizzet could just have 'Jason...the world renowned curer of narcissism' or something to that effect... Last edited by mmm...kyle; 06-08-2005 at 08:10 PM..

06-08-2005, 07:01 PM	#191 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Well Nancy if we REALLY wanted to get technical here the Joker could never be a Narcisist anyway could he? I mean his face is disfigured. It's why he paints it. He pretty much hates his face. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

06-08-2005, 10:11 PM	#192 (permalink)
Nancy Femme Fatale Location: Elysium	Technically the Joker has never existed - neither has John Connor And why would I even try to stop him from fighting off Skynet? Skynet is bad, BAD! Perhaps we should just stick to real things the next time.. __________________ I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip. Last edited by Nancy; 06-08-2005 at 10:15 PM..

06-08-2005, 11:29 PM	#199 (permalink)
Ishmal Wicked Clown Location: House Of Horrors	yer... you both should do a draw/end of round drawing... that'll be cool... what you think Nancy??? (i wont ask Dizzet as it was his idea so i assume he'll do it) __________________ "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular."