Plan9Senior

dmanti, I am wanting to know more but the way you wrote that post I am not sure what the whole story is. Tell me about it!! Sounds like you need some advice from all of us.

Sleepyjack, not sure if I have mentioned this before in this thread, but if I haven't...here it is now: DONT DATE GIRLS FROM WORK! Everybody has heard this rule before, but for some reason nobody seems to take it serious until they end up dating a girl from work and THEN realize how they should have listened to that rule in the first place . Flirting is all good, and during your X-mas party or other company functions where you can let loose, feel free to have a little fun, however; DONT date them (hmm maybe I should write a lesson on why you shouldn't date coworkers) !

cool123

good thread

dmanti

Heh. Well, I could babble for a long while about this chick, but long story shorter, she lied to be about being a virgin, and being that she starting preaching to me about her beliefs in premarital sex the first night we talked, and then lied to me 3 more times when i asked her, I feel it's a horrible foundation for a relationship. Her best friend, and many others have told me she's lying. The final time I asked her she promised, swearing on random things, very sincere... but... I told myself I'd not speak to her if she lied to me, and althought I very much enjoy working with her... I still feel I need to do what I think I should. In all reality, she could be telling the truth, like... she told her best friend, just to be cool, while she was bragging about her sexual encounters... but I really don't know... I can't tell what's delusion and what's truth.

shoe

Well , there is only one way to REALLY be sure about her being a virgin.

Averett

And how's that?

There is no way to REALLY be sure. Either the girl is lying or she's not. Physically you can never be sure. Some girls break their hymen through sports or using tampons.

Just so you know

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Zorvox

Not to be rude or anything, but... I think that "getting girls 101" is a little degrading and well also.. alot of it wouldn't always work, every girl is different, your practically saying you can ensure that all this advice etc will work and blah blah, is utter crap.

There are some girls you could say, want a root? and they would, others would tell you to f off, othjers would hit you blah blah..

There is no use going all the way out of your way just to get a chick, be who you are and don't change who you are and you'll get a girl that you are compatible with hopefully....

I mean, yes.. some good advice for sure, but.. really, geez.

Why change who you are? - Just to get someone?

If your a good enough guy, they will come to you.

SVT01Cobra

Wow dude, she lied to you so that she could get you in the sack, NICE!

Anyways, you never can tell when a girl is lying, it's just too hard.

And Zorvox, that MIGHT work in Australia, but here in America, it sure as HELL doesnt work

nifu

hey
i have a scenario:
i'm in gr12 and i see this girl at school, she's really fine and she's always lookin at me and shit. anyways it's almost xmas and she gives me this card and gift, i don't even know her! so i go talk to her and find she has a HUGE crush on me... then i find out she's in grade 8 !! i'm like wtf??? she looked young but not that young! so wtf do i do?

PS: it's probably illegal

Averett

Ha!

As a senior do you really want to go out with an 8th grader? no matter how hot she is, that is illegal.

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nifu

lolol
you're right, she's too young, why god why?
maybe she is my age but failed a couple grades?

sailor

Doubtful, there are a lot of girls that look a lot older than they are. Regardless, give up on it, thats robbing the cradle. Nothing younger than 9th grade is fair game when you are in HS.

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SVT01Cobra

If it wasnt illegal, I know a couple of my buddies who'd say "Go for it!"

Now that I think about it, they'd probably say that even if it was illegal.

Middle school is way too young dude, that's border-line pedophilia. Tell her to wait a couple years first.

nifu

yea i'm definitely not going to, don't worry .

emphant

Er, no, they won't. No one ever got laid because they were a good guy.

I don't think he ever claimed his methods to be foolproof, but the fact is they are reliable and they work.

You don't have to necesarily change yourself, you just have to bring out the sides of yourself that you normally wouldn't.

Why change who you are? Well, if being who you are isn't attracting girls, why wouldn't you change who you are? You can give me all that stay true to yourself blah blah blah, but if being true to yourself is getting you nothing but dates from Ms. Michigan, then yes, it is time for a change.

Zorvox

Not everything is about getting girls, you stick to yourself and just be out there get around with friends and just strive to be who you are, and you will attract the right girls.

And yes, being a good guy will get you laid.

Plan9Senior

Hehe, whatever kiddo Stop watching movies, you have a lot to learn about real life (oh.. "not to be rude or anything")

Plan9Senior

Common nifu, please don't stoop to the level of needing to be with a child to get laid. Let her have her "crush" and you prowl for some girls who are a tad more mature then 8th grade .

Zorvox

wtf, if you have to have a whole "strategy" to get girls, then well.. hahah... why not just go out and meet people the normal way instead of trying to play some psycological game with the girl just so you can get laid.

Plan9Senior

Who the fuk are you and why are you preaching in my fukin thread? Please do me and everybody a favor and stick to disney.com or sleepinginseatle.com forums to preach your nonsense. I don't give 2/3 of a turd on what you THINK works, you have not even begun to scratch the surface on how to get a girl. Run along and seriously vacate my thread young man.

Plan9Senior

Please tell us the "normal way" and explain to us in detail on how it worked for you. i am anxious to hear about it

P.S. This coming from a guy who posted:

along with...

oh... and lets not forget...


ya.. you are the real casanova. Thank God you came to my thread and showed everybody the light in which you lead!

nifu

i guess i worded my scenario wrong, i didn't mean to say that i was going to hit it.. anyways, i heard of this age rule, tell me if you agree:

divide your age by 2, add 7
that's the limit

Averett

Age rules (and every other lame dating rules) are dumb. And lame. Or whatever.


Bottom line. The girl is in the 8th grade!


Anyway, settle down boys.. no more fighting. You're going to make baby Jesus cry.

I may not agree with some of the viewpoints in this thread, but hey... to each their own. So lets just quit bein jerks

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SAM821

nifu: If there's grass on the field...PLAY BALL!

Just kidding... yea, go for something a little older... at the youngest, a freshmen or sophmore... 8th grader... thats a little too young.. I had an 8th grader like me when i was in 11th... and i just couldnt do it... I told her to wait a couple of years... Its better that way... no regrets

good luck

Zorvox

k plan9

ur so cool..

SVT01Cobra

Zorvox, you certainly aren't acting your age...

Stiltzkin

::looks around::

Averett rocks!

:: slowly walks out the door::

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Plan9Senior

Yes, I know this.

Plan9Senior

She is growing on me too, and that is a hard feat to accomplish

Plan9Senior

In this sexuality forum, I read a ton of stuff that either makes me want to die laughing, or feel very bad for the amount of chumps that seem to post the same questions over and over. I think that some of you that follow this thread are now beginning to understand how it all works, and hopefully when you see other threads on here from AFCs you can give them a little helpful advice on how life really works. I am going to reiterate on the friend zone and how to handle yourself when trying to date, for all those who are needing a new lesson.

The Friend Zone
This has been discussed many times, but for the sake of saving you guys headaches, it boils down to this: You ACT like a friend, you will BE a friend.

If you DISPLAY traits that friends have, she’ll consider you a friend. Notice the use of the word display, not if you tell her you want to be friends. So how do you avoid falling into the friend zone? Well…

You attract her.
So many guys TRY to be friends first, thinking that they’ll advance from there. We all know that doesn’t happen except in movies (think of your odds being the same as winning the lotto).

You remain confident, and don’t let her walk all over you
Friends buy friends stuff. Friends hang out with each other all the time. Friends call each other “just to talk” (if you’re dealing with a girl that is). Friends talk about problems, alpha males don’t! You listen to her problems, you become her friend. This has been discussed before, so I’ll leave it at that.

Dating Vs. Relationships
It’s important to figure out your goals. I’m personally in this for dating right now, and I’m not interested in relationships. I want to perfect my game more and more and worry about relationships when I get older. So what do I do?

I DON’T ACT LIKE I’M IN A RELATIONSHIP WHEN I’M NOT

I don’t date girls on Fridays or Saturdays. I don’t do what they tell me. I don’t spend hours with them. I don’t get together with them more than once, or occasionally twice a week. I don’t call them everyday, I don’t buy them stuff, and I don’t get all emotional.

I act like I’m dating. That means I call her maybe once a week, but only to setup a time to meet. I’m not interested in small talk. It accomplishes nothing over the phone except eliminating kino, eye contact, body language, and mystery. When we do hang out, I keep it short, and leave when things are going good. Think that is odd? Well you would all cry at the amount of tail that I get.

Over Emotional Guys
I almost want to tell you to drop your emotions! Guys that react to quickly are unattractive. Guys that get pissed too easily, or guys that are to sensitive, wtf! Girls don’t like this. You don’t even have to say you’re pissed or yell, a girl can tell by your body language. What you need to do is relax and not let things get to you. If a girl flakes out on you, it’s almost always your fault. You mis-read her, you displayed traits you shouldn’t have, you did something wrong (except the occasional flakes that actually do happen on accident, but VERY rarely). You’re not going to call this girl and bitch at her. You’re going to act alpha. If a girl flakes out on you for coffee, if you’re not ready to NEXT, you wait till the next day in which you call and say:

“Hey (insert girls name here). I know you’re probably upset that I didn't make it yesterday, but my car broke down and I had left my cell phone at home that day. Maybe we can get together early next week?”

Save face, and avoid bitching at her with, “I can’t believe you did that!” or “You really missed out!” which shows her that you’re upset. Obviously won’t do anything for you.

Keep in mind that girls WILL read between the lines. They analyze EVERYTHING! And words are the least analyzed thing. Body language, behavior, tone, attitude, that all gets analyzed more than words. It’s actions that girls look into, so you have to learn to play the game, not talk the game.

These are just some examples to non-verbal things that can put you certain situations you don’t want to be in, then you wonder how you got there. An example of a non-verbal, positive thing is distance flirting.

You distance flirt with a girl. Completely non-verbal, however it puts you in the situation where you have a girl that’s attracted and ANTICIPATING your approach. You don’t walk up to a girl and say, “I’m going to approach you in 5 minutes. Go build up some anticipation before I come back.” You DO SOMETHING to MAKE it HAPPEN! Get it?

Another example: How can you tell a guy is nervous just by observing him? Well, his body language/nervous habits. Pacing, biting of nails, constant fidgeting (especially if he usually doesn’t fidget), etc. So being alpha is really based off of non-verbal communication.

Your posture, your tone, your body language, your EYES, your facial expressions, your walk, your confidence: all non-verbal things that display alpha male qualities, thus categorizing you as an alpha male in her mind.

I could truly go on for hours, but this is an intro that should make you guys aware of the other 90-95% of your game which is the non-verbal part. Pay attention to it, and think of situations where you NEXTed because of your non-verbal communication. You should really pay more attention to what you're REALLY saying by not actually saying anything!

kingal

I've always picked up more women when I'm with one or two. The fun part - I walk up and ask her to join myself and my girlfriends, we're having a good time and would love you to join us. Works like a charm, especially if you can manage to dance with all of them at the same time. Eventually, all come by to visit on consecutive nights and don't even care about what's happening with the other 2 - they know each other...always worked for me. I only ask that they be cool with sharing. The ones that have a problem with it get over it the minute they see how the others get treated when we're all together.

Averett

I never thought I'd see that day!

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TM875

Okay, Plan9, here's a question:

I've been reading this diligently, and I really like some of your ideas. However, here's my situation:

Usually, when approaching girls (or anyone, for that matter), it seems that I come into the situation with TOO MUCH confidence. It's like I act overly aggressive and try to take my place - which just leads them to believe that I'm an overbearing asshole. Oftentimes I've had girls reject me, or even outright hate me, for being "too intense".

The question here is, first, what am I doing wrong? Am I truly imtimidating them? Also, how can I remedy this (is my outward over-convidence stemming from an inward lack of convidence?)? Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

And, once again, thanks for making this thread.

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twistad

bing bing

That's one shitty retort my Australian buddy. Put some effort in next time.

watupyo

hey p9, iv read this thread since it pretty much started D:, and i got a question for you

ok this chick mate of mine from last year moved to canada on an exchange for a year, i wasnt that attracted to her but yeah. While she was away, i hooked up with her best mate and went out with her for a while, i broke it off but she still calls me and says she loves me and stuff. When the girl from canada returned i really liked her, she was into all the stuff that i like and has looks like a goddess. I was talking to my x (because we r still awesome friends) and she said that canada girl likes me, and she doesnt have a problem with me being with her. but she said it in a weird way like she didnt mean it and would kick my ass if i ever tried doing anything with her. Iv talked to canada chick alot and she doesnt seem to show any attraction to me, do u think shes doing what you told me to do to her, and getting me to like her more and more D:?

well after this i dont really know what im asking, kinda - do u think i should go ahead?

Plan9Senior

Well there is a fine line between being an Alpha male and being a jocko obnoxious guy. You are aggressive, and believe me you are ahead of the game. It is harder to learn to be aggressive than to learn to relax a little, so don't worry you are close to your goal. You need to work on your game by concentrating on being a little more mysterious. Keep em wondering if you are into them. Dont make it obvious. Girls don't like what they know they can have easily, they are different then us. Keep reminding yourself this while talking to them in order to keep yourself in check and always ahead of the game.

Plan9Senior

Don't worry about what they want. Think about what YOU want. If you want it bad enough, you can make it happen (in most cases) if you play it right. If you always think this way, you will get results. I have always been the type of person to walk into any given situation... look around... find the best looking girls and decide which one I want... not which one would want me. Confidence is key, and you cannot live life worrying about whos toes you are stepping on. Go after what you want. Life is short, and regret is the worst thing in our short life. I'd like to know what happens.. keep me updated.

Zorvox

My point is, if you go into a situation, TRYING to make something happen, like full on going in there with full on intentions on your mind, how is the whole "chemistry" stuff meant to happen when you are trying to practically play mind games with a girl, trying to get her to think one thing, but you want another.

And every girl is different, a key to one girls heart, isn't the key to anothers.

How you can say that it will work for practically every girl is ridiculous, I could go up to a girl and say "wanna fuck?" she'd slap me in the face, another girl might say yes and so on.

Every girl is different, and it will take different things to say / do to do whatever you want to do with her...

Im not going to really use any of the advice, except for the "confident" thing, as everyone lacks self esteem pretty much so yeah anyway, that is my opinion, respect it

Plan9Senior

Ok, went to the bar tonight. Right away I spotted the best looking girl there. She was a young girl (just turned 21) and was with her family celebrating a birthday (dunno whos). Anyway, I made my mind up that I wanted her. I noticed that everybody in the bar was staring at her... trying to talk to her every chance they got. What did I do? Well I waited until she made eye contact with me and then I made sure to look away and seem like I wasn't that interested. I continued to play pool, hang out with my friends etc... I later made it a point to get friendly with her not so pretty friends. About an hour into the night, I could tell this girl couldn't understand why I wasn't coming after her like everybody else in the bar was. By now, her friends and family thought I was cool and they decided they were going to go to another bar to check it out. Before they left, I said to the hot one, "Hey, you friends with these girls? My name is Eric, where you taking off to?" She responded, "We are going to go check out (insert bar here)." I said, "No use going there, I'm here. Come back here when you get bored of that dive." She lauged and they left. About 2 hrs later she shows up again. Walks up to me and starts initiating the conversation. I told her I was taking off and it was nice meeting her. She said, "Wait, can I get your number to maybe hang out sometime?".

Money. This girl was absolutely a goddess, yet I made it seem as if I was not that interested... she wasn't used to that. My friends jaws were dropped at this tonight because they thought she was insanely hot, but they always seem to enjoy my antics. Will she call? Who cares... there are always others. Keep those expectations higher then you should and you will accomplish things you never thought possible.

Plan9Senior

You are absolutely struggling with trying to make your pont, but you are coming short. Sounds to me like you are making excuses for your inadequacies, but thats just my opinion. Good luck in your endeavours.