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Old 01-08-2006, 07:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A pickled "dragon" that looks as if it might once have flown around Hogwarts has been found in a garage in Oxfordshire.

Yesterday the baby dragon, in a sealed 30in jar, was in the office of Allistair Mitchell, who runs a marketing company in Oxford. He was asked to investigate by his friend, David Hart, from Sutton Courtenay, who discovered it.

A metal tin found with the dragon contained paperwork in old-fashioned German of the 1890s. Mr Mitchell speculates that German scientists may have attempted to use the dragon to hoax their English counterparts in the 1890s, when rivalry between the countries was intense.

"At the time, scientists were the equivalent of today's pop stars. It would have been a great propaganda coup for the Germans if it had come off.

"I've shown the photos to someone from Oxford University and he thought it was amazing. Obviously he could not say if it was real and wanted to do a biopsy."

The documents suggest that the Natural History Museum turned the dragon away, possibly because they suspected it was a trick, and sent it to be destroyed. But it appears a porter intercepted the jar and took it home. The papers suggest the porter may have been Frederick Hart - David Hart's grandfather.

Mr Mitchell said: "The dragon is flawless, from the tiny teeth to the umbilical cord. It could be made from indiarubber, because Germany was the world's leading manufacturer of it at the time, or it could be made of wax. It has to be fake. No one has ever proved scientifically that dragons exist. But everyone who sees it immediately asks, 'Is it real?' "

Yesterday the Natural History Museum said that it was interested in following up the find.
So this has been something that I've seen a couple of years ago, but never have see anything to truly refute it.

Dragons are an archetype for almost all cultures.

I do wish that there were more pictures of it than this one.
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Old 01-08-2006, 08:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pretty real looking, but it doesn't look like a baby, more like a mini adult. If it was a baby I wouldn't think it'd have all the ridge lines and spikes and since an umbilical cord implies live birth...ouch. Wings look much more fully developed than they should as well. Obviously though since there are no real (at least today) dragons to compare I'm just using what I know of biology of birds and reptiles.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Man, of course it's a hoax- everyone knows dragons are born in eggs like any other winged creature.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Part of me was really, honestly hoping that there would be some sort of proof that this could possibly be real. The little kid in me still wants to believe in stuff like this. Of course, there is almost certianally no proof, and this is a clever hoax/model. Either way, I was very entertained! I'd kinda like to have a leprechaun in a bottle.
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's a fantastic trick.
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Old 01-09-2006, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I love the notes by the editor (in the link). Makes me think of the 80's show 'V'.

My favorite: "Does anyone really believe that the powers that be would really tell us this is a real dragon?...When reptilians and draconians control the media?"
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Old 01-09-2006, 05:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/o...re/3576987.stm

This has a pretty cool looking pic of the pseudo creature.
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Old 01-09-2006, 05:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I came across this on a different site yesterday... I can't believe it's here today!

What does that mean?

Personally, I'd love the little critter to be real. Logically I think it's really cool that people go to this effort to keep the magic and fantasy alive in life...
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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as I said before, when this was posted in a thread here a long time ago...
I WANT to believe that it's real!
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Old 01-13-2006, 03:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Wow, that's even better. It's a hoax of a hoax to hype a book.
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Old 01-13-2006, 08:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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aaaah see this is why it's great to collaborate with other people....
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