Suspects named in WPC Murder (with pictures)
 

I would like to ask that the mods do not join this thread with the other similar thread i have previously made.
It is considerably more likely that UK residents (and anyone else) will click on this new thread, rather than simply checking a new post on an old one.
I'm not sure how badly the rest of the world reacts to police officers being killed, but i'd like to think that over here in the UK, it's still a highly despicable act and the offenders should be hunted down (and sent to the gallows if i had anything to do with it).

Any help with these enquiries is paramount, and if anyone has seen recently or knows the whereabouts of any of the suspects, please call the police immediatly or crimestoppers annonymously on 0800 555 111.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4470286.stm


Police name Pc shooting suspects

The three men were all living in London, police said
Detectives hunting the killers of Pc Sharon Beshenivksy have named the three prime suspects they want to question.
The 38-year-old officer was shot dead during an armed raid by a gang at a travel agency in Bradford a week ago.

The suspects are Mustaf Jama, 25, from the north Kensington area of London, and his brother Yusuf, 19, from the same area. Both are of Somali origin.

They also want to trace Muzzaker Shah, 24, who was born in Burnley but has lived in London since 2001.

Det Supt Andy Brennan, who is leading the hunt for the killers, said: "I believe the men who committed this crime are very dangerous." They were already "known to police", he added.

'Still in UK'

He told reporters at a briefing in Bradford there was no indication that any of the three suspects had left the country. "It is possible they may be in the London area," he said.

"I am appealing for any information which can help us to trace these men as a matter of urgency."


Pc Sharon Beshenivsky joined the Bradford South team in May

Mr Brennan also gave more information about the movements of the getaway car believed to have been used by the killers.

He said: "Immediately after the events at the travel agents three men were seen running to a silver vehicle which was parked in Howard Street.

"We believe this vehicle is the silver Toyota Rav 4, registration WP05 YTT, details of which were provided to the media previously.

"We have trawled through many hours of CCTV and have a number of sightings of the vehicle on 18 November [the day of the shooting].

"This includes a sighting of the vehicle travelling along Morley Street at 3.02pm, moments before the events at the travel agents."

He said the vehicle was seen 40 minutes later travelling along Manchester Road, out of Bradford city centre, in the general direction of the motorway network.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...icetrio203.jpg

I'll keep an eye out, here in Tucson.

it kinda amuses me that you feel that way, with what happened with that cop shooting that kid for wearing a jacket in the sudway and all...

*shrug*

just food for thought. Karma can be a bitch.

He ran from police into the underground wearing a jacket only a few days after some other people had decided it would be a damned good idea to blow other parts of it up. Quite simply, he shouldn't have run from police, ESPECIALLY on the day he did. The response given to a perceived threat was justified as far as i'm concerned, id much rather have one innocent man die than another 20 get blown up. Lesser of two evils.

I would have done exactly the same as the police :hmm:

What would be even more amusing, and just as karma-like, Would be someone not really giving a shit if you died, sorta like you don't about the cop eh?


maybe you should look at it that way?

He wasn't running from them, he didn't jump the ticket barrier, he wasn't even wearing bulky jacket, He was shot 5 times in the back of the head before they even identified him. Not only that, but they had a perfectly viable option of subduing him but instead decided to shoot him instead. That's just bad police work.
However, It really does suck when a good police officer is killed in the line of duty. I hope they do catch these guys. I have alot of respect for anyone trying to protect and serve the people, especially when they obviously don't do it to get rich. I'll keep my eyes out even though I highly doubt I'll see them in the US.

How exactly would you subdue a person you expect to just ignite explosives strapped to themselves before you could have him on the ground???

we all say that until if was one of our own. if it was your brother, uncle, father, you'd feel much differently I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

He was running from them, he ran from the street, into the underground, he was under survellance anyway.
If someone ran through an airport a week after 9/11 and looked like he might for whatever reason be carring a bomb, do you think they should just knock him over and cuff him, or shoot him? There is NO time to think a situation like that through, a decision has to be made, and the right one was. The bombers were home bred, so trying to identify him while pursuing him through the underground won't work.
Mistakes do happen in policing, but given the circumstances, its understandable.

Cynthetiq - I probably would feel differently if it was a relation but, not to sound harsh, he wasn't, and i still stand beside the police in their call.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...rd/4474978.stm


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...sufjama203.jpg

stevie, just checking as I too feel the same way that you do, until of course it's someone that I connect with.

As far as police presence in London, OMG they were everywhere on Saturday night. I don't know if that was normal but most places I went to there were at least 4-6 of them on the tube or overground. One station we saw about 12 of them on one platform.

I think you should look at the updates to the news story. He payed for his subway ticket, grabbed a free newspaper on the way in, The only time he ran was to get on his train, he then stopped calmly, looked for a seat and sit down. It hardly sounds like he was fleeing from anyone. They hadn't even identified him as the suspect they had under survellance because the guy taking the pictures was taking a piss. They made 1 mistake after another, then they didn't try to correct the first reports that he was running from the police, jumped the ticket barrier, was wearing a bulky jacket capable of concealing a bomb. I don't understand your shoot first ask questions later policy. I still cannot bring myself to believe that this was a justified shooting.

I'm sorry for hijacking this thread, I won't discuss it anymore in this topic. I'm sure they'll catch the other suspects soon enough.

This thread hijack is ridiculous. You can feel bad about a couple of cops getting shot AND feel bad about the Brazillian getting shot too.

Hope they catch these clowns and lock 'em up for good,condolences to the family of the dead officer.

There are new alcohol liscening laws in force now, lots of places are open until the early morning, and a thousand or so now have 24 hour alcohol selling liscences.

The police want to crack down on any bad behaviour now to send a message that it won't be tolerated in the future.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...rd/4483660.stm

The latest reports I heard were that they had tackled him, had him down on the ground, and decided to shoot anyway. He never ran from them, just to get to his train.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4518730.stm