Suave

http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00829.wmv

This is a video of some anti-white propaganda. I'm posting it because I found it very interesting, as I've never been exposed to any sort of racist speeches of any sort, and thought some of you might find it interesting as well. Warning, it's about 5 minutes long.

Some of the things this guy is saying have merit, but they're taken to such an extreme that it becomes pretty ridiculous to contemplate what he's trying to get people to believe.

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tecoyah

Mod Note......Racism is unacceptable in the community...but this is not meant to be such....in my opinion.

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radioguy

i find it more humorous than anything. maybe i just don't care about people saying bad things about white people or what, but it had no effect on me.

maleficent

I'm at work right now so I'm not gonna listen yet... but... I can only imagine..

There's a guy who used to stand outside the paramount building in NYC standing on a milk crate and prattle on and on and on about how white people are absolutely awful and if a white person happened to catch his eye, he'd direct his tirades at them.

It was NYC. It was Entertainment.

Louis Farrakhan and a few others preach much of the same stuff

Withthe guy in this video - -most people are smart enough to be able to filter thru his message of hate or whatever.. but tehre are some that dont and will beleive him..

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Zephyr66

Woah, I wasn't aware that I'm a nigger that wants to kill black people...

MooseMan3000

Heh, "White people want to kill you! They want to kill you in lots of ways! Psychological, emotional, electromagnetical..."

wtf? Not only is he racist, he's fucking nuts. Clearly, cigarettes are designed to kill black people. They have no negative effects on white people, and they're free for anyone who's white (remember, we're trying to profit off of black people's deaths).

I just really don't understand how anyone can take people like this seriously. I mean, clearly they do take them seriously (can anyone say Hitler?), but it still amazes me.

As a side note, I like his company's name: Blacknificent Books. Classic.

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docbungle

I couldn't sit through the whole video. It was humorous for a moment and then became just ignorant.

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Psycho Dad

Judging by the looks of most of the people in the audience and the very limited applause, I suspect that most everyone in attendance considers this guy to be a nutjob as well.

Something I found interesting is that if you Google this guy's name, it returns less than 900 hits. I wonder what that number will be after this video gets passed around the 'net for a few days. I suspect comments left on different sites it gets posted to will make for interesting reading.

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filtherton

As a white male i just want to point out that i do in fact recieve .000000000000000001 cents for every dollar spent by a minority. Don't you guys?

Temporary_User

haha, Im in a speech class in college.
for an assignment of our we have to review a speech done by someone outside of class.
I think Im going to to this guy!

would anyone know of a link so i can hear his speech from the VERY beggininng?

Martian

suave - I disagree. There is absolutely no merit in anything this guy says. Reason being his words are so tainted by his own racial prejudice that none of it applies anymore.

I don't find this funny at all. It makes me feel kind of sick.

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raeanna74

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction - or something of the sort. There are the KKK and other extreme black haters, there's gonna be some extreme white haters. Neither side is acting in a sane, reasonable way. The underlying premise of it all is selfish pride and lack of respect for the fellow man. It's no better than clicks in high school. We're better than you because we fit this narrow definition. If everyone who thought they were better than someone else, just simply got rid of that 'someone else' we'd have a pretty empty world. It's sad. Either he will go to the grave being laughed at or he will have a very rude awakening.

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zfleebin

I have to agree with martian on this one. This guys logic is out of whack. He first says that white people tricked the black people into believing they were free only to let them out of the plantations and in to a larger prison, otherwise known as the earth. To make this seem realistic he proposes that the plantation owners now share the rights to their slaves with all white people. He then goes further to suggest that if a black person dies anywhere in the world it is because they were in a prison of the whites. Which means that it is obviously the white peoples fault that all black people die. Somewhere in his twisted logic he connects these two ideas to propose that all black people in the world die because of white people imprisoning/wanting to kill them. If this were the case then the only way to stop a black person from dying is to kill all the whites. However, by following this logic if all the white people in the world are killed the black people should never die. I have heard logic like this before and amazingly it was always linked to lsd and paranoia.

Suave

That coloured text really freaks a guy out.

Anyway, to explain where I find merit in what he's saying, it's on some of the basics he's talking about. When he says that white people have "expanded the plantation" internationally, he's using a bad metaphor, and he's misinterpreting intentions, but there is some truth to that. White is the dominant colour of skin on the planet at the moment, and it's primarily a vestige of colonialism. However, his crazy tangents and idea that we (white people) want to kill black people completely destroy any credibility he may have had.

I personally prefer to consider skin colour only as a physical identifier (eg. "he had a big nose, black hair, and brown skin") rather than using it to segregate the population into different ethnic groups. Sadly, until we find a way to get rid of most of the unintentional or indirect institutional racism at least in our own countries, that outlook is not possible for the greater society.

edit: Temporary: that's the only part of his speech that I had access to.

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canuckguy

Just curious, can't get google to spit out the answer, what is the percentage of ethnic groups in the world?


I did not listen to the speech btw. So no real comment on the actual speech but how anyone can be a racist in the year 2006 is sick, but also invokes my curiosity in why their racist. Meaning what psychological reason is it. Did some childhood event influence, parents, how did the person become a racist.

And to end the thread jack, sorry, I use to work with a guy for 6 years, drank a few beers with, golfed with, turned out to be one of the top racists and activist as listed in the local paper one day. He quit work there shortly after, but I had no idea. Talked to him every day, but never had a clue he was a Nazi. What a jackass.

zfleebin

Suave: I still dont see the merit your referring to. It is true that that there are more members of the so called white race on this earth than there are black. However, colonialism was not intended to control just black people but to control all different people and more importantly their resources, labor, and markets. To say that this possible side effect of colonialism was the ultimate intention of all white people is a pretty big stretch. Somehow I dont even think that this guy is intelligent enough to have been thinking what you are proposing while he delivered this speech.

alansmithee

Only if these messages get more widely accepted in the Black community will there be any chance at equality. Social movements seem to be about compromise. Originally, blacks were thought of as being property. Then some people said "you know, Blacks aren't property, they are humans". The compromise was that blacks were considered living beings, but less than human. Then later, some people started saying "this isn't right, Blacks are just as good as white people". What was the compromise? Blacks were considered humans, but lesser humans. And that was one of the big mistakes of the civil rights movement-it didn't go far enough. If instead of stopping their barganing position at equality, people then would've argued for Black superiority, maybe the compromise would've been at equality. But that was not the case, and to this day blacks are looked down upon as lesser humans in America (and around the world). This guy's on the right track, we need more like him.

BBtB

The biggest problem I see with this guy and in this post is the amount of ignorance. I am not trying to cut anyone down nor am I reffering to this particular guy (though I do think racist on all sides are ignorant). What I mean is the number of people who are questioning where this guy is comming from. Asking why he is racist or has these feelings when it should be obvious. Its a sad sad world that history, what should be the single most important subject in school, is mostly breezed over. Even those who bothered to pay attention, or had a real good teacher, seem to take the single most important thing from history (class or otherwise). That is they don't take history and use it to explain the world as it is today. The fact of the matter is that whites and blacks in america are not equal. Even today, in the year 2006(?), and yes, racism still abounds. Now it is true that slavery is offically over and everywhere you see equal opportunity employers and the effects of affermative action. Why do we have these things though? Are they not just way for black people to get things they don't deserve? Take the job of a better suited white person? Now, take a step back in time with me. Not to 1855 mind you, just to 1955. Now to some of us, myself included, 50 years seems like a long time. However, in the grand scheme of history and changing the world its really not. Anywhere here ever hear of Rosa Parks? Yea, yea I know, old black lady, just died, what oh what could she have to do with this racist bastard? Now really, I should be able to leave it at that, people should be able to get my point and I could move on. However, I feel I should elaborate, seeing how some people probably need this. Here is the thing, as recently as 50 years ago there was a little thing called segregation. Now see segregation was a bad thing for race relations. Basically the point was something like this "If we can not have you as slaves we are going to atleast act as if you are sub humanbeing and treat you as such on a daily basis". The problem with race relations in America today is the bulk of white America seem to think of segregation (and slavery for that matter) as some little thing that happened years ago. This if of course a colossal fallacy. Think of it like this, after years of enslavement they were freed, but then what? Highly uneducated (the fact that the ability to read was a crime punishable by death on most farms sure didn't help this) and they didn't own anything. On top of that there was the newly formed KKK doing lynchings whenever they could find an excuse. This went on well into the 1920 atleast, and almost always completly unpunished. So anyway, fast forward a few years, black man gets shot, yea yea. The cival rights movement had one fatal flaw. Even after disbanding segregation, even after giving black people the vote, even after finaly getting around to, you know, taking those wacky KKK lynchers to trial and stuff. The bulk of the black community where still grandsons and great grandsons of slaves, still poorly educated and poor. Now (hopefully..) none of this information was new to any of you, and I am sorry abount the rant of (what should be but is mostly glossed over these days) 6th grade history. I gotta ask you this though, did you think of any of this when you watched this guy speak? Did you ever consider it before when considering black/white racism? Ever think about the fact that yea, slavery may be gone, and yea these people complaining about it may never have been slaves, but does that mean they were not effected by it?

One last thing, its the so you think you are not racist test. Here is what I want you to do. Close your eyes, imagine you are walking alone, imagine you have a hundred dollars in your pocket, now imagine a large black guy walking behind you.

One last last thing. For those who are wondering, I am 21, white, male, two daughters and made less then 10,000 this year.

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dlish

what whacko hospital did this nutjob come out of? extermination of white people? wtf???

surely this couldnt have been said post 911. that is propgation of hate and im sure there'd be some laws introduced after 911 to throw this looney either into a mental hospital or to jail for inciting hate.

i know in australia atm, there are laws being passed, so that any similar comments like what this goofball said would send you to jail for at least 7 years.

anyone have a date on the video?

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Psycho Dad

This was recent; post Katrina in fact.

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flat5

My interpretation (rhetoric removed) of what he is saying goes something like this.

While talking to an audience of Katrina victims he points out that a government obsessed with the interests of (rich white Christians?) will do what it can to remove the profit draining black population.

He suggests that the black population remove that government.

SERPENT7

Delicious guy sounds like a fascist.

BigBen

At first, I was hoping that he was using shock to grab the audiences attention. Then I looked at his face. He was serious.

Okay, without going through the entire argument again, can I ask "Do you mean me, personally? You want to kill me because I am white? Or are you talking about 'The System' that is controlled by whitey?"

If he wants to shake things up, cool, but the speaker has his own message mixed up. People are now cutting thier ties to him, to avoid a political meltdown.

I wonder what Bill O'Reilly thinks about this speech.
I love you yanks, and how your First Ammendment allows people like this near microphones. I swear, whenever I think I am going crazy, people show me things like this and I realize that I am more than reasonably sane...

Why not kill all of the Arabs? Or Kill the Chinese? If the whole world is a prison in which blacks are kept down, then may I suggest that he start elsewhere.

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Funnel

Wow this guys a raging idiot. The one thing i did like and this doesn't just apply to black children but every race is the thing about warehousing in special ed and putting our kids on ridalin. I think Adderall and Ridalin are two of the dumbest creations geared toward children ever. Anyway back to topic i hope this guy calms down a little bit and i cannot believe anyone clapped.

BigBen

Yeah, I noticed that too:

The simple fact that there were people listening to this guy and
a) not getting up and leaving
b) Not objecting verbally
c) Responding in a POSITIVE WAY

was really disturbing.

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tspikes51

I love how you could see empty seats in every shot.

BBtB:

What history will also show you is that pretty much every race ever has been subject to slavery and has had a severe disadvantage at some point in time. It just so happened that Europeans at the time were somehow able to dupe or take African slaves by force (my guess is more advanced technology). Saxons, Celts, Germans, Romans, and Greeks were all subjects of racial injustice at some point. Granted, they all rebounded at some point in time, but without any kind of major systematic institutions.

My main problem with the whole "white people hate black people" is that most black people are taught from an early point that one of their main identifiers is that they are black. Okay, so your skin is dark, what the hell does that matter to me? It's just like saying "I'm young, the government hates me." Many black people are quick to play the race card. Maybe if you'd stop, people wouldn't have so much of a problem.

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Homeboy just needs a hug.

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denim

I figure that we should take all the whatever supremists, seal them in a nice big stadium (I understand the Superdome is available) with no food and plenty of drinking water, as well as a large supply of loose (building) bricks and maybe some (charcoal) briquettes, and tell them you'll let the survivers out in 8 weeks. Come back in 8 weeks and let any living ones out.

(edit) It's an attempt to try to reduce the total stupidity in the universe. Doomed to fail, I know, but I figure I've got to try.

BigBen

I have the distinct feeling that if I approached this guy with my arms open, he would cry out "See, The White Man is trying to kill me! Look at him, approaching me like that. It must be some new killing technique, the way his arms are outstretched like that. Normal arms don't look like that. They hang naturally. The White Man's arms are keeping me in prison!"

Waaaiiit a second.... On watching the video a second time, you can clearly see the line where the mask is, right at the base of his neck... Shit. That is an imposter! I know who is under there: George W. Bush.

It has to be Bush's fault, somehow.

(Just kidding on that last part... I would never watch this video a second time)

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BBtB

tspikes, you really need to restudy history and this time pay a little closer attention. Yes it is true that every race or "people" have been disadvantaged, and if not all in slavery enough to say just about all. However, the scale and the effect of black owned slaves, especially on America, is not even comparable. The slave trade of Africans in the past several hundred years was the second greatest crime against humanity of all time( the first, of course, would the mass genocide of the native American populations as well of the native populations of hundreds of islands in the same time period). Your whitewashing of history is the very reason you hold such an ignorant thought process that black people are some how spontaneously born racist and should simply drop the race card and get over it. You are also ignoring the fact that, as I pointed out in my first post, it did not end at slavery, far from it in fact. The entire point of my first post is this, there is a legitimate historical reason that race relations are in the state they are in today. Only be looking at what has happened in the past and realizing that maybe there is a reason that some black people mistrust the goverment (Could it be they would have let him be enslaved 200 years ago? Or that members of the goverment where openly members of the KKK barely 75 years ago? And that even if they were not alive to see that their parents or grandparents where and they feel the effects through their economy, education and health) To say that racism is something that a person(Black, white or pink) should just get over is ignorant to say the least and possibly racist in its own right. One last thing, on the fact that other people have been enslaved, yea so what? So if say China started attacking America tomorow and took half the population as slaves we should be okay with that because "hey we're not the first people its happened to" ? All I am saying is just because an injustice happens somewhere, doesn't mean its any less an injustice when it happens again.

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Willravel

I admit it, he's absolutely right.

Paranoid Schizophrenia is truely heart breaking. He sees himslef as being persecuted by an entire race, portreying whites (myself included) as a part of a grand conspiracy to kill and profit from the genocide of all black people, then tells us that we're going to do it electromagnetically. That's interesting, as I never heard anything about electromagnetics at the ficticiuos "Let's kill African American" meetings. The fact of the matter is that not all people who are paranoid schizophrenic recieve treatment, and some are entusiastic and interesting enough to get attention from people. This is one such person.

Oh, btw, Germans (my people, 3/4 German) were enslaved by the Roman Empire for hundreds of years. Irish (my people, 1/4 Irish) were made slaves in America. I don't care. It's sad, but it has no effect on my life besides words in a book. I don't think Italians are trying to kill me. Or are they?

waltert

i was expecting for him to say something....that wasnt...you know...a crazy man's fanatical ideas.

they want to kill us electromagnetically, eh? thats a good one. I mean, I could think of ways to kill people using electromagnets, and it'd probably be pretty neat, but thats sure alot of work....and the evil white man certainly wouldnt be making any money doing that.

this guy seems to be looking at extremely narrow cases, and applying them as global cases.

I also think the number of empty chairs is noteworthy.

World's King

The sad thing is that I kind of feel the same way about white people.



And I'm white.

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Ustwo

BBTB - I'd think that the #1 greatest crime would be the mass murders and planned starvation in communist countries of this century, if you wanna go by just numbers.

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jorgelito

I think you could probably make a decent argument for genocide here. Pol Pot, Stalin, Saddam, Mao etc.

jorgelito

Yuo know, is it really all that surprising? While I don't really agree with his rhetoric, I am not surprised nor shocked at all that he says what he says. I hear that kind of talk all the time but the other way about coloreds by white people but we NEVER hear about that.

EX: we should kill all the Arabs; they are all terrorists; or they all attacked us in 9/11

EX: we should nuke all them Chinese cause: they're communist, they're taking over, they're a threat to us (RE: white European society), ad ininitum, ad nauseaum

EX: Abortion, AIDS are ggod cause it keeps the black popluation down, and therefore, keeps crime down.

EX: Death sentencing - blacks are sentenced to death way more than whites are for equal crimes etc.

I hear comments like this EVERY DAY at my school, in class, by other students - a large well-known, well reuptated school for that matter (UCLA).

This guy is nothing. No reason to pay him any attention. Move along people, there's nothing to see here.

dlish

serpent7

firstly, if i was a fascist i'd let you know...

but since you accuse me of being just that, and since most western nations are introducing such laws that prohibit freedom of speech, then i dare say that the US and Australia are some of the most fascist countries around today.

but its great that u did contribute to the thread, rather than just make blunt accusations about other peoples political leanings....NOT.

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BigBen

Oooooh, I get it now.

I thought you were talking about the guy on the video, and had given him a little pet-name. Who am I to question who you think looks "Delicious" or not. I don't swing that way, but I thought that the crazy guy might be considered ruggedly handsome in his own way.

Then I see this post And it all makes sense. You were insulting dlishsguy.... I think you need to clarify your posts in the future.

Or better yet, leave that shit to yourself. Look around. We don't do that here.

Am I the only one here who thought that the Crazy video guy could be thought of as "Delicious"?

Shit. I need to have sex soon.

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