South Africa anti-rape condom aims to stop attacks
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050831/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg....mjxgYzyl.F_A--

It's a female condom with sharp recurved barbs on the inside, removable from the rapist's penis only by surgery. The inventor says it protects the rape victim from HIV and other diseases, pregnancy, and will send the perpetrator straight to the hospital where he will be immediately identified and arrested.

Is it barbaric or ingenious?

I think it's an interesting idea, a tad inconvenient. What if you forget you have it in and your husband comes home horny and doesn't pay enough attention?

South Africa does have a high rate of HIV and rape both; maybe it will find a market there.

This sounds like it will find a home in the wacko religious right as well... I wonder if parents can put this in their daughter? It would prevent sex (intercourse) before marriage like little else.

Removable only by surgery? Jesus. The only women who got this would be women who will never have the intent of having sex, ever, with any guy. Otherwise it would be an extreme inconvenience. I do support any acts to prevent rape, however.

-Lasereth

Interesting idea, but I can't help thinking that a rapist will probably take a few minutes to beat the crap out of a woman that was wearing this. Maybe just kill her to eliminate a witness.

if someone went to rape some girl and their dick got all caught up, couldent they still get infected throught vagina?

ROFL THATS GREAT

they might just as well sew the vagina shut instead.... just as effective...


how are they going to attach this to the lady to begin with?

Its only removable from the guy by surgery not the girl...


i've heard of things like this before... if women feel like they need something like this... and they would like this method of defense as opposed to pepper spray or tazers... then they can do it...

Brilliant!

Anything to help stop rapists.

Too bad it doesn't poison them as well...

if you read the articles on it, they tested it on "prosthetic penises" which probably means rubber dildos. So once these things become widespread, what's to stop the rapist from using the dildo first to disarm the trap, and then going on with the rape?

damn now they better spend another 20000 to figure out something new:-P

It sounds like an interesting idea. It would only work, however, if it weren't too expensive for the girls to buy, or too hard to find.
I'm also wondering how the girl would get it out so that she could have consentual sex with her husband or something....does she have to stick something in there to get it out?
And....I'm kind of curious about how hard it would be to put in. I'm just imagining a girl trying to secure her condom inside her and...whoops...her finger slips, and next thing you know, she's the one in the hospital, trying to get the killer condom off her finger.
I'd be terrified to use it again after something like that happened to me once.

I'm not sure if the drop in the spread of AIDS with the widespread use of this condom would be huge though. A lot of the problem with AIDS spreading is also due to whores, drug use and the fact that some people find the use of condoms almost insulting, even if they are aware that there is a risk of HIV/AIDS with unprotected sex.
Either way though, if it curbs the amount of rape that goes on, that would be great. Because even if the rapist ends up beating the girl half to death when something like that does happen....the amount of men who dare to even attempt to rape someone will likely be much smaller when there is a risk that their penis will get ripped to shreds.

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I think it's a great idea as far as preventing rape but, what about the women who will get a hold of this device and use it to "get even" ??? Say, maybe, a cheating husband or boyfriend. How many times will that have to happen before they are pulled off the market?
Also, is it just me or did anyone else think about the fact that there is still the possibility of being sodomized? Say a rapist does get hurt by one of those condoms .. He will heal. Then its time to start going a "different route".
Im not sure how effective these condoms would be.

There's only one word that describes your post:

Bigoted.

Ouch.

Crossing my legs tightly. Examining fingers. Hmm... I like my fingers where they are. Surgical removal only? Holy no-more-digital-masturbation, Batman.

Thats pretty clever.

Why would any of you care if they wore them?

It seems like it should do that. A couple of things really, make it so that it should have to be removed by surgery (Though I don't see how since a knife could cut off a laytex condom and yo ucould slide it out...), then have something on the barbs that irritates the hell out of the skin, makes it itchy, extra sore, or something like that, then if possible have some kind of dye in it that makes the penis a nasty shade of green.

But I'm sure that having that inside of a woman's body would just be potential for something bad to happen.

Edit - And to be extra effective they should have a rather wide insertion I guess that enters the urethra that's just wide enough to cause a lot of pain and basically plug your bladder.

So you want to have a device that, when the woman is raped, discharges a poison? Keep in mind it's still IN her body when the thing is triggered, so any dye or poison or irritant you stuff in it is going to get her too.

Howso?

Honestly, I agree that a very extreme parent might force their child to do this, granted, he said it in not so choice terms, but bigoted, no.

Forcing a kid to wear this is dumb, they could just take it out.

The rapist.. well, I think this has a large chance of making the man VERY angry. He might beat the woman to death... but he might have been planning that anyway.

Maybe the shock will be enough for the woman to get away, who knows.

That is alright I guess. But I still think women should remove one nail and have it replaced with a metal one that looks just like a normal one so that they can tear the throat out of the rapist. Okay that will never happen but rapists don't deserve to live.

what will they think of next? one for the butt i hope, because im sure that the rapers will get smart and go in the back door...

I get the feeling this will turn what otherwise would have been rape into attempted rape and murder more than it'll turning rape into notrape.

Brought to you by the same country who has the "Push-this-button-to-shoot-giant-fireballs-out-the-side-of-your-car-to-stop-would-be-carjackers" device

I remember that thing, the car flamethrower:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/230000...777_car300.jpg

This would be a great idea, but maybe we should make it more easily removable and instead of barbs, maybe like a dye or something.

LMAO Like using a hacksaw to cut THE CLUB off of a steering wheel.

And yeah, two opinions/observations...

1. There's no way it can prevent the spread of disease if it makes the attacker bleed inside the vagina. No way at all. I'd like to see the proof on that one- until then, I will laugh at that idea.

2. Rapists will just start fucking people in the ass, instead. That will cause a lot more damage, still holds the same disease issues... but I guess they'll spin that as a bonus because there won't be a pregnancy.

He said wacko. I think most people are perfectly able to make presumptions about things wackos do without being judged. As far as sneaking in the words "religious right"... for being religious, they're not exactly the most saintly people in the world. If you want to talk about bigots, you'll never find a batch of human beings more willing to pass judgment on those different from them than the extreme "wacko" religious... and that goes for pretty much every religion there is.

If rape is such a high concern there why don't they just increase the punishment? Perhaps removal of the penis of the rapist. This device won't prevent rapes at all, and will only make matters worse (as others have said).

"Don't forget to wear your snatch barbs today, dear!"
"Yes, mum!"

Is the incident of rape really THAT high? or is it post-desegregation paranoia?

No, he qualified it by saying "wacko" and "right", meaning the fanatical groups within religion (I presume primarily Christian religion in this case).

As far as circumventing the protection, consider the nature of rape. It is not, as far as I know, generally a calculated crime. It is normally (again, to my understanding) a crime of "passion" as they are sometimes called, and so it seems unlikely that a lot of rapists would have the presence of mind to switch things up to avoid this kind of entanglement.

Just like all crimes the rapist will get smart with it and first shove something up the womans vagina(maybe a dildo). When the trap goes off it will attach to the dildo and then they will do what they first planned. And the person may also be pissed off that the woman was equiped with this and may hurt her because of it.

Don't know if I like the idea.

It's actually a huge problem over there. If you're a woman living there odds are you're gonna be raped. Almost guaranteed. Especially if you're a virgin, because many men there believe sex with a virgin cures AIDS.

If I was a virgin over there I would use this. Though I have wondered about how the woman would get it in and out and how it can actually be dangerous for the man and not for the woman. I can see if it is a thicker material than most condoms and completely enclosed it wouldn't be terribly dangerous, HIV-wise to cause the man injury. At the very least - less dangerous for the woman than if he actually managed to rape her.

I would ALSO take me several self-defense classes. If I ever encountered a situation with a rapist and had the chance I would be wrapping my fingernails around his esophagus and ripping with all my might - and I would not be calling for an ambulance for him ASAP. Let him rot.

This is just ONE tool. Don't ever be dependant on a single method of defense.

I think it's absolutely hilarious that yahoo has a picture of a DILDO in their news article, hahaha.

Yeah, but don't you think once the first dozen or so guys get caught like this, the rapist community will just adjust their methodology? I mean, if kids who barely made it out of high school, can memorize binders of complicated football plays then I imagine a rapist can successfully adjust his technique.

I just don't see how this is going to be very effective.

:rolleyes: As others have pointed out, I did say "wacko". If you also look at my post you will see that I said "religious"... Not, Hindu, Christian, Islamist, etc... No modifier.

First off, like many who first read this thread and didn't read the article the OP makes it seem like the condom cannot be removed from the woman without surgery, rather than from the man's Penis as the article states. This makes a big difference in how one views this article.

To surgically insert a device like this into someone would be just a little twisted. Especially if it was a child.

Correct me if I am wrong but there are many extreme practices in religious circles that attempt to curtail the sexuality of women... The most extreme examples of this are female circumcision and the sewing closed of a woman's vagina. This barbaric practice is performed on children by people who purport to be religious in their intent.

There are many religions and cultures that hold the virginity of women before marriage as someting sacrosanct. It is not a far stretch to imagine that they would see a device such as this, surgically inserted into their daughters as a good thing. A positive thing.

Of course, once you see that it is a device that can be easily removed, the entire wacko factor of the story becomes much less so, in my opinion.

Like raping her ISN'T already hurting her?

I think that something like this is a good idea, because as Suave said : rape is not generally a calculated crime.

The rapist is not, in most cases, going to take the time to think about something like the possibility of a vaginal trap. So he then gets injured and either has to go to the hospital, or lose his penis or life to a resulting infection. And if he goes to the hospital, he's busted for rape and goes to prison.

I have no opinion on this particular device nor on how effective it may (or may not) be.

But I am disturbed by anyone who tells a victim not to fight back because they may be victimized worse if they do.

That is exactly what the rapist says.

The truth is that studies show women who fight back have a greater chance of escaping than those who don't.

So fight, fight tooth and nail, with any and everything you've got.

Frankly, I think it's possible rapists who find their dicks stuck in one of these devices will be a little more concerned about getting themselves extracted from that thing, than taking the time to beat their victim.

I'll also take a wild guess here, and say that it would become more painful with the loss of one's erection, and that erection loss would occur very quickly with such a device.

Yes, they have a greater chance of escaping without being raped. But those who fail to escape after attempting to physically fight back are more likely to be severely injured.

So it's up to each individual woman. If you feel you are strong enough and skilled enough to fight back against your attacker, you should certainly do so. But if you are relatively weak without any self-defense skills, you should probably not to fight back, but still attempt to verbally "fight back".

I'm surprised the thread has made it to page 2 without mention of the dentata from Snow Crash: "...a very small hypodermic needle slipped imperceptibly into the engorged frontal vein of his penis, automatically shooting a cocktail of powerful narcotics and depressants into his bloodstream.... Now he's going to sleep for at least four hours. And then, boy, is he ever going to be pissed."