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Daniel_ · 07-07-2005, 01:46 AM

Several trains blown up in the eastern end of central London, and a bus blown up at Russel Square.

Some fatalities.

Not good.

Looks like terrorism to me, but no-body's come forward to admit anything yet.

Bastards.

Wonder if they'd have blown up the Paris Metro if the vote had gone the other way?

ems · 07-07-2005, 01:58 AM

Heard about this as soon as it happened. Very tragic.

I too suspect terrorism via al queda or the IRA. the ira has been fairly inactive as of late, and it seems al-queda has greater motives [g8 disruption, olympic plans for london]

spectre · 07-07-2005, 02:08 AM

An article about the explosions.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...ube/index.html

Quote:

Multiple explosions rock London
'Terrible injuries' reported in blasts

Thursday, July 7, 2005; Posted: 6:02 a.m. EDT (10:02 GMT)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Nears simultaneous explosions rocked the London Underground network and three double-decker buses at the morning rush hour, police said, causing injuries and prompting officials to shut down the entire underground transport network.

Some media reports said there were fatalities.

The explosions came a day after London was awarded the 2012 Olympics and as the G8 summit was getting underway in Scotland. Initial reports blamed a power surge, but officials were not ruling out a terrorist attack.

"There have been a number of dreadful incidents across London today," said Home Secreatary Charles Clarke, Britain's top law enforcement officer. He said there were "terrible injuries."

The Tube blasts at the height of the rush hour on Thursday were initially blamed on a power surge.

But amid the chaos eyewitnesses reported that a packed double decker bus in the Russell Square area had been severely damaged in a blast.

A second bus was reported to have been damaged in Tavistock Square.

Describing the Russell Square blast, eyewitness Belinda Seabrook told the UK Press Association she saw an explosion rip through the bus as it approached the Square.

"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air," she said.

She said the bus was travelling from Euston to Russell Square and had been "packed" with people turned away from Tube stops.

Travellers emerged from underground tunnels covered in blood and soot. Scotland Yard declared the emergency a "major incident."

Emergency services were called to London's Liverpool Street Station after reports of an explosion shortly before 9 a.m.

A short while later, London Underground said there had been "another incident at Edgware Road" station in north west London.

aphex140 · 07-07-2005, 02:13 AM

can not hold of any one I know down there . F**king bastards.

ems · 07-07-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aphex140

can not hold of any one I know down there . F**king bastards.

Likewise. I have 2 uncles and their families in london

both my uncles work in the financial district this is going on in =/

Mr.Deflok · 07-07-2005, 02:17 AM

Watching on a live newsfeed, some points:

Three explosions, one on a double decker bus and two on the underground train network

Somehow the attacks are being linked to the Olympics announcement yesterday.

Germany's train networks are being monitored.

Bombs have been in packages, the one on the double decker was placed on the top tier at the back

The Army are mobilising on London!!

jwoody · 07-07-2005, 02:38 AM

I'm anxiously awaiting details. An explosion on a tube train, during rush hour...

aphex140 · 07-07-2005, 03:06 AM

6 explosions on the tube and one on a bus up to 20 dead

tres · 07-07-2005, 03:11 AM

I f-ing hate this BS! I'm soo sick of people doing this shit.The Olympics are about a comming together of counties, the very opposite of all this terrisom crap. NOTHING big has happened in London till they are set to have the olympics.... I'm not even close to london.... but can you imagine if they would have announced that NY was granted to Olympics.... Imagine this in our subway system... ugh!

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:15 AM

AQ have claimed responsibility.

If you have people in london, the cell phone network is suffering from volume of calls. That and they've probably cut the traffic so that the emergency services can co-ordinate and also to prevent remote detonations.

It's all gone a bit Pete Tong at the mo. It was London's turn soon and we're used to dealing with bomb threats.

jwoody · 07-07-2005, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tres

I f-ing hate this BS! I'm soo sick of people doing this shit.The Olympics are about a comming together of counties, the very opposite of all this terrisom crap. NOTHING big has happened in London till they are set to have the olympics.... I'm not even close to london.... but can you imagine if they would have announced that NY was granted to Olympics.... Imagine this in our subway system... ugh!

You're suggesting that there were people (now confirmed as suicide bombers) in 5 five different countries, ready to launch a co-ordinated attack on whoever was granted the 2012 olympics.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:18 AM

I got out of Liverpool st station at 8:45. I know cause I checked my watch to see if I had time to get a coffee on the way in to work.

Heard a bang and the alarms went off with the 'Do not enter' signs flashing.

Evidently the first one hit at 8:49 just outside liverpool st station.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jwoody

You're suggesting that there were people (now confirmed as suicide bombers) in 5 five different countries, ready to launch a co-ordinated attack on whoever was granted the 2012 olympics.

It was a toss-up between Paris and London.

The Eurostar is an easy way to get across, and you can also catch a ferry in an afternoon.

The market was bouyant after the olympic news.
If you were a terrorist organisation that needed funds, and you planned to take advantage of the stock market with an attack, what major event announcement do you think you could use to plan your attack? I personally don't think it's coincidental, if I were a terr I'd do it.
I'd be checking the market logs for any odd movements of funds yesterday.

Also, it puts a security fear on anyone planning to invest, or visit in 2012. And that's a major bonus for anyone trying to incite terror.

jwoody · 07-07-2005, 03:27 AM

What did you see, WillyPete?

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:27 AM

Hmmm.

The market has really tumbled.
the FTSE has asked trading companies to turn off their automated trading systems that respond to market movements. They've been dumping stocks.

I'd call it a 2-4-1 for any terrorist organisation.

tres · 07-07-2005, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jwoody

You're suggesting that there were people (now confirmed as suicide bombers) in 5 five different countries, ready to launch a co-ordinated attack on whoever was granted the 2012 olympics.

It is hard to imagine these days that in any given country AQ or some other terrorist org is prepared to pounce at any given time? Its only 5 countries....

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jwoody

What did you see, WillyPete?

Nothing really.
I heard a bang and thought it was one of the overground trains shunting into a carriage. The alarms went off and I chalked it up to another typical London underground event.

If you're watching CNN and see images from choppers above a tube station, I work right around the corner from it.

The choppers are overhead right now.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:31 AM

Bloomberg.com has a live feed.

The city was planning on investing about $30billion for the olympics. Do the math.

ShaniFaye · 07-07-2005, 03:37 AM

Glad you're ok WillyPete!!! I hope our other friends in the london area fared as well.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:40 AM

rather try with email - their work and their home address.
The mobile phones are quite poo at the mo. And they'll all probably calling immediate family to tell them they're ok.

The bombs went off at a time that most people would have been at work already.

8 - 8:30 is the big rush.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 03:41 AM

The bus blast.

stevie667 · 07-07-2005, 03:43 AM

BBC news:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

Quote:

Two die in London terror blasts

TV coverage
Two people have been killed and scores have been injured after at least seven blasts on the Underground network and a double-decker bus in London.
UK Prime Minister Tony Blair said it was "reasonably clear" there had been a series of terrorist attacks.

He said it was "particularly barbaric" it was timed to coincide with the G8 summit and he was returning to London.

An Islamist website has posted a statement - purportedly from al-Qaeda - claiming it was behind the attacks.

London's police chief Sir Ian Blair said traces of explosive had been found at one site.

He urged people to stay where they were and not to call emergency services unless it was a life-threatening situation.

Sir Ian said there had been "many casualties" but it was too early to put a figure to those killed or injured.

He reassured the public that an emergency plan was in place and the situation was "steadily coming under control".

Home Secretary Charles Clarke told reporters outside Downing Street: "The health services are in support to deal with the terrible injuries that there have been."

Scotland Yard said explosions have been reported at Edgware Road, King's Cross, Liverpool Street, Russell Square, Aldgate East and Moorgate.

I think this is a pile of bullshit. These bastards timed this with the start of the G8 summit so as to cause as much damage and disruption to peace processes and peoples lives as possibles.

It could have been worse. London, unfortunatly enough, has had many terrorist hits before and knows how to deal with them. It doesn't excuse anything though.

I'm all in favour of closing ports and airports, breaking out the army and hunting down some people.

WillyPete · 07-07-2005, 04:01 AM

I still think it's about crippling london when there's a combination of factors.

Tony Blair was up in Scotland on a well publicised trip to G8.
The mayor was in singapore with the london bid.
Spotlight was on London re 2012 and UK re the g8.
Live8 recently would have lowered security with the sheer load of people moving through the city.
Market was hit badly enough to indicate someone with funds started a 'run' by knowing about the attack and coinciding the confusion with the knowledge that the trader systems will automatically dump stocks if enough movement happens. Couple that with the obvious communication shutdown of mobile phones and other data, would have cause massive panic on the exchange. Major financial damage to the UK.

Charlatan · 07-07-2005, 04:46 AM

Just got a hold of some of my friends. One is a home watching it on the telly and the other is stuck in Trafalgar Square not sure how he is going to get home to South London...

Still a few more people to contact.

This really sucks.

aphex140 · 07-07-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WillyPete

rather try with email - their work and their home address.
The mobile phones are quite poo at the mo. And they'll all probably calling immediate family to tell them they're ok.

The bombs went off at a time that most people would have been at work already.

8 - 8:30 is the big rush.

IS the truth ! was it a mistake or a cause of damage limitation, to cause max disruption. My brother was at work at 8.30 this morning in Kensington

ShaniFaye · 07-07-2005, 04:55 AM

I cant remember where exactly Strange Famous lives....and I cant get on aim here at work to see if he's on....does anyone know if he's in London?

hulk · 07-07-2005, 04:57 AM

Just heard on the news here, up to 50 dead? God..

Janey · 07-07-2005, 05:11 AM

AQ are a bunch of sickos who have no honour. they are not even human, and are invisible to God.

jwoody · 07-07-2005, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

I cant remember where exactly Strange Famous lives....and I cant get on aim here at work to see if he's on....does anyone know if he's in London?

Strange lives in Norwich, which is about 100miles outside London.

ShaniFaye · 07-07-2005, 05:31 AM

thanks jwoody!!!

MexicanOnABike · 07-07-2005, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hulk

Just heard on the news here, up to 50 dead? God..

i just heard it was 45... it's rising fast. 2, 10, 12, 45 and you say 50? nooot good.

powerclown · 07-07-2005, 06:30 AM

Monstrous, sickening and cowardly, but not altogether surprising.
We all know the agenda here.
I only hope this will further strengthen world opinion regarding terrorism against the West.
Very sad. My condolences.

Charlatan · 07-07-2005, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by powerclown

I only hope this will further strengthen world opinion regarding terrorism against the West.

I think we are already quite resolved that terrorism is a bad thing and this it should be stopped... as usual we tend disagree on how to stop it.

Pacifier · 07-07-2005, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by powerclown

Monstrous, sickening and cowardly, but not altogether surprising.

yes, it was only a question of time when the enemy in this war will strike back.

amonkie · 07-07-2005, 06:52 AM

My sister is in Edinburgh, Scotland right now ... I hope this is contained ... because the G8 is also a nice target as well

maleficent · 07-07-2005, 07:07 AM

Logically, I'd say if they wanted maximum amount of casualties, they would have gone with Hyde Park on Saturday with the Live8 concert, that would have also given them (whomever them is) a helluva stage for whatever message they wanted to deliver.

The news keeps reporting that this was the height of rush hour, but I'd imagine that if this occurred earlier or later, the count of those killed and injured would be a lot higher. The objective of terrorism, I think, is not to kill as many people as possible, but to be as disruptive as possible and to cause as much fear and terror as possible.

SaltPork · 07-07-2005, 07:07 AM

I really don't understand this stuff. Those groups really HATE us. The depths of their hate boggles the mind. I hope they enjoy spending eternity in hell.

07-07-2005, 07:17 AM

I heard this from a friend working in the city:

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"[nearly 4pm] Rail services out of London are starting back up (with the exception of Kings Cross). Traction current to the Underground is intact and could theoretically (apparently) now run a full service again, but it's not going to until investigations have got out of the way. The Docklands Light Rail is back up with a few stations not calling at. Bus is the way home for many people. Other than those immediately affected, it's proved that the contingency plans have been highly effective, and that the transport system itself has proved highly resilient, barely losing the mid-section of a working day. Apparently, being mid-week, the hospitals were well within capacity too.

I think London and the people of London should be proud of their calm, steadfast and pragmatic response to real crisis, and for getting things working again so quickly after a coordinated attempt to disrupt.

ShaniFaye · 07-07-2005, 07:22 AM

Thankfully for them, they didnt have it near as bad as it could have been

Redlemon · 07-07-2005, 07:23 AM

zen_tom, that's pretty impressive.

07-07-2005, 01:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-07-2005, 01:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
ems Tilted Location: Los Angeles [The Valley], CA	Heard about this as soon as it happened. Very tragic. I too suspect terrorism via al queda or the IRA. the ira has been fairly inactive as of late, and it seems al-queda has greater motives [g8 disruption, olympic plans for london] __________________ hey there

07-07-2005, 02:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
aphex140 Psycho Location: northamptonshire	can not hold of any one I know down there . F**king bastards. __________________ Computers allow us to make more mistakes at a faster rate than any other man-made thing, with the exception of handguns and tequila. [/QUOTE=BAMF]Do they role a die, with a 1/3 chance of being flacid?[/QUOTE]

07-07-2005, 03:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
aphex140 Psycho Location: northamptonshire	6 explosions on the tube and one on a bus up to 20 dead __________________ Computers allow us to make more mistakes at a faster rate than any other man-made thing, with the exception of handguns and tequila. [/QUOTE=BAMF]Do they role a die, with a 1/3 chance of being flacid?[/QUOTE]

07-07-2005, 03:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
tres Insane Location: Long Island, NY	I f-ing hate this BS! I'm soo sick of people doing this shit.The Olympics are about a comming together of counties, the very opposite of all this terrisom crap. NOTHING big has happened in London till they are set to have the olympics.... I'm not even close to london.... but can you imagine if they would have announced that NY was granted to Olympics.... Imagine this in our subway system... ugh! __________________ "Its better to be hated for who you are, then loved for what your not" --Van Zant "Tell me and I forget. Show me and I remember. Involve me and I learn."

07-07-2005, 02:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Watching on a live newsfeed, some points: Three explosions, one on a double decker bus and two on the underground train network Somehow the attacks are being linked to the Olympics announcement yesterday. Germany's train networks are being monitored. Bombs have been in packages, the one on the double decker was placed on the top tier at the back The Army are mobilising on London!!

07-07-2005, 02:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	I'm anxiously awaiting details. An explosion on a tube train, during rush hour...

07-07-2005, 03:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	AQ have claimed responsibility. If you have people in london, the cell phone network is suffering from volume of calls. That and they've probably cut the traffic so that the emergency services can co-ordinate and also to prevent remote detonations. It's all gone a bit Pete Tong at the mo. It was London's turn soon and we're used to dealing with bomb threats.

07-07-2005, 03:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	I got out of Liverpool st station at 8:45. I know cause I checked my watch to see if I had time to get a coffee on the way in to work. Heard a bang and the alarms went off with the 'Do not enter' signs flashing. Evidently the first one hit at 8:49 just outside liverpool st station.

07-07-2005, 03:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	What did you see, WillyPete?

07-07-2005, 03:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	Hmmm. The market has really tumbled. the FTSE has asked trading companies to turn off their automated trading systems that respond to market movements. They've been dumping stocks. I'd call it a 2-4-1 for any terrorist organisation.

07-07-2005, 03:31 AM	#18 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	Bloomberg.com has a live feed. The city was planning on investing about $30billion for the olympics. Do the math.

07-07-2005, 03:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Glad you're ok WillyPete!!! I hope our other friends in the london area fared as well. __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-07-2005, 03:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	rather try with email - their work and their home address. The mobile phones are quite poo at the mo. And they'll all probably calling immediate family to tell them they're ok. The bombs went off at a time that most people would have been at work already. 8 - 8:30 is the big rush.

07-07-2005, 03:41 AM	#21 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	The bus blast.

07-07-2005, 04:01 AM	#23 (permalink)
WillyPete Addict	I still think it's about crippling london when there's a combination of factors. Tony Blair was up in Scotland on a well publicised trip to G8. The mayor was in singapore with the london bid. Spotlight was on London re 2012 and UK re the g8. Live8 recently would have lowered security with the sheer load of people moving through the city. Market was hit badly enough to indicate someone with funds started a 'run' by knowing about the attack and coinciding the confusion with the knowledge that the trader systems will automatically dump stocks if enough movement happens. Couple that with the obvious communication shutdown of mobile phones and other data, would have cause massive panic on the exchange. Major financial damage to the UK.

07-07-2005, 04:46 AM	#24 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Just got a hold of some of my friends. One is a home watching it on the telly and the other is stuck in Trafalgar Square not sure how he is going to get home to South London... Still a few more people to contact. This really sucks. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

07-07-2005, 04:55 AM	#26 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	I cant remember where exactly Strange Famous lives....and I cant get on aim here at work to see if he's on....does anyone know if he's in London? __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-07-2005, 04:57 AM	#27 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Just heard on the news here, up to 50 dead? God.. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

07-07-2005, 05:11 AM	#28 (permalink)
Janey Junkie Location: Toronto	AQ are a bunch of sickos who have no honour. they are not even human, and are invisible to God.

07-07-2005, 05:31 AM	#30 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	thanks jwoody!!! __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-07-2005, 06:30 AM	#32 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	Monstrous, sickening and cowardly, but not altogether surprising. We all know the agenda here. I only hope this will further strengthen world opinion regarding terrorism against the West. Very sad. My condolences.

07-07-2005, 06:52 AM	#35 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	My sister is in Edinburgh, Scotland right now ... I hope this is contained ... because the G8 is also a nice target as well __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

07-07-2005, 07:07 AM	#36 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	Logically, I'd say if they wanted maximum amount of casualties, they would have gone with Hyde Park on Saturday with the Live8 concert, that would have also given them (whomever them is) a helluva stage for whatever message they wanted to deliver. The news keeps reporting that this was the height of rush hour, but I'd imagine that if this occurred earlier or later, the count of those killed and injured would be a lot higher. The objective of terrorism, I think, is not to kill as many people as possible, but to be as disruptive as possible and to cause as much fear and terror as possible. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

07-07-2005, 07:07 AM	#37 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	I really don't understand this stuff. Those groups really HATE us. The depths of their hate boggles the mind. I hope they enjoy spending eternity in hell. __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

07-07-2005, 07:22 AM	#39 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Thankfully for them, they didnt have it near as bad as it could have been __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

07-07-2005, 07:23 AM	#40 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	zen_tom, that's pretty impressive. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.