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F-18_Driver · 04-23-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

Of course there was no need to terminate the dead guy. All someone had to do is call the guy's mother and sister and tell them that he was involved in a terrible accident.

That, and wait for the lawsuit because you had "unsafe working conditions."

F-18_Driver · 04-23-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Painted

This is pretty fucking rediculous. All this shit people have to do for smoking pot.. jesus christ. When I got employed for (most of) my jobs I openly told my employer I liked to come home at the end of the day hit the bong and listen to pink floyd. Granted, I had to apply at a few companies before I found the right one...hehe

Let me ask you a question, PD. Did a stack of falling pipe or a plant kill that person?

Now there's an interesting question.

Did Mark David Chapman or a bullet kill John Lennon?

Holdem Dvorak · 04-23-2005, 11:22 PM

It sucks, but the new tests are good, damn good. There isn't much you can do. Now passing an emmisions test..................

DJ Happy · 04-24-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Dad

Maybe not, but perhaps. Nevertheless, we have never let one person go who failed a random test that we all said "god damn, we hated to lose that one". Every single employee that I have lost (there have been 4) due to failing a drug screening has been someone who typically not an A class worker. And three of those four have been after testing at the emerency room after an accident. Should we have waited on the fourth to hurt himself or perhaps someone else?

How many workers who tested clean have had accidents?

ForgottenKnight · 04-24-2005, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

Hmmmm...let me think...how to pass a drug screen...
I know...don't do drugs.

Glad I could help.

I agree with Bill O'Rights.

Psycho Dad · 04-24-2005, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Painted

Let me ask you a question, PD. Did a stack of falling pipe or a plant kill that person?

Well if you put it that way... I guess if someone on their way home from the club last night went through the windshield, it has less to do with the Redbull and vodka and not wearing a seatbelt than it does with how hard an automobiles windshield is.

Psycho Dad · 04-24-2005, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by F-18_Driver

That, and wait for the lawsuit because you had "unsafe working conditions."

OSHA has already investigated and cleared us of any fault. Not that that means a court will, but... And we get sued for silly shit all the time.

What the real problem with an incident like this is, nobody wants to be the person who has to call someone's loved ones and give them that kind of news.

Psycho Dad · 04-24-2005, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Happy

How many workers who tested clean have had accidents?

Oh I'm not saying we don't have other accidents, but the ones who go to the Dr. with carple tunnel, get something in their eye, etc. have not been as bad as the one who lost a finger and tested positive, or the one who lost an eye and tested positive or of course the dead guy.

splck · 04-24-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnymofo

my guess would be the pipes fell because of the person under the influence of the plant who was being careless.
regardless of the legality of drugs, people should not be under the influence of anything while at work. Unless of course its your job as a tester

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THC is detectable long after the effects are gone. Just because someone tests positive for THC doesn't mean they are stoned at the time. All it means is that they've had some pot in the last week or so. If that's bad enough to warrant firing, I guess that's your right, but it's more anti-drug paranoia than an actual concern IMO.
I'd be more concerned if an employee came to work hungover over an employee that smoked a joint to previous evening. I've hired several dozen employees over the last 18 years and never had a problem with guys that smoke pot on occasion, but I have had major issues with workers and booze.

In fact, Flyman (a pot smoker) was one of the best employees I ever had.

MSD · 04-24-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnymofo

this is the standard drug test, they most definately check for some of those you listed,

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The NIDA 5
Federal government guidelines (by NIDA-The National Institute on Drug Abuse and SAMHSA-the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) require that companies which use commercial class drivers licenses for employees must have a testing system in place. Among other things, this required testing program must test for 5 specific categories of drugs (sometimes referred to as the "NIDA 5"). Because of this federal requirement, most drug testing companies offer a basic drug test that checks for drugs in these 5 common categories. Click on the substance name for a description of the laboratory method for detecting the substance.

Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
Phencyclidine (PCP)

just about all you want to know about drug testing

If my workplace was tested, I'd be the only one left.

biznatch · 04-24-2005, 06:21 PM

I'm all for a serious drug screening for dangerous jobs, like construction workers, or plane pilot. But for an office job..or something that's really that dangerous, there should be only a limit (of course if you come stoned to your office that won't be cool, but if you wanted to have a puff at a party, what the hell?)

Psycho Dad · 04-24-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by biznatch

I'm all for a serious drug screening for dangerous jobs, like construction workers, or plane pilot. But for an office job..or something that's really that dangerous, there should be only a limit (of course if you come stoned to your office that won't be cool, but if you wanted to have a puff at a party, what the hell?)

But to keep it fair it has to apply to everyone. In our random program nobody is exempt. Not even the plant manager.

04-23-2005, 11:22 PM	#43 (permalink)
Holdem Dvorak Tilted Location: The land of the silent S	It sucks, but the new tests are good, damn good. There isn't much you can do. Now passing an emmisions test..................

04-24-2005, 06:21 PM	#51 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	I'm all for a serious drug screening for dangerous jobs, like construction workers, or plane pilot. But for an office job..or something that's really that dangerous, there should be only a limit (of course if you come stoned to your office that won't be cool, but if you wanted to have a puff at a party, what the hell?)