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Scorpion23 · 02-22-2005, 04:07 PM

I've been looking around with my SO recently for engagement rings, and she fell in love with a diamond shape that we've never seen before. The store was Ramsey's in Louisiana, and they called it a cueset or cuset cut. It was kinda between a princess and round cut, but had a higher brilliance than either of the two.

I would love to get her a diamond with that shape, but don't want to be stuck with only one choice for a seller. Has anyone heard of this, or know where I can find one?

ophelia783 · 02-22-2005, 04:39 PM

I was under the impression that the diamond cut that you're describing was known as an Ascher cut......Maybe it goes by a different name where you're from?

dirtyrascal7 · 02-22-2005, 04:49 PM

i'm no expert, but a lot of jewelers have their own unique cut... so unfortunately, if it's not a standard cut like emerald, princess, round, etc... then you may be stuck with only one seller choice.

also, just throwing this out there... maybe it looked more brilliant because it was a much better stone. i wouldn't be surprised if they showed you a very clear, high quality diamond with their special cut and some lower quality diamonds with the standard cuts so they could essentially trick you into spending more.

just take your time and do lots of research and ask lots of questions... if you feel uncomfortable or pressured at any time, i suggest taking your business elsewhere.

Scorpion23 · 02-22-2005, 04:49 PM

ophelia783: It's similar to an Ascher, but the edges didn't seem as square. Or maybe I'm just not remembering correctly. I'm trying to go off memory since I couldn't get a picture.

Scorpion23 · 02-22-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyrascal7

i'm no expert, but a lot of jewelers have their own unique cut... so unfortunately, if it's not a standard cut like emerald, princess, round, etc... then you may be stuck with only one seller choice.

I was afriad of that. As far as the stone quality, the one I looked at wasn't top notch. Only a K, SI1.

Cervantes · 02-23-2005, 04:44 AM

http://www.thediamondshop.co.uk/learningcentre/cut.htm
Some info about shapes and the Asscher shape.

There is a difference between cut and shape, Asscher is a shape while cut is how "deep" the diamond is and what angles the facets has:

http://www.adiamondisforever.com/buy/4cs_flash.html
A flash about diamonds, it speaks of culet cut (I'm just grasping for straws here but maybe you heard about a special form of culet cut that reflects even more light? then that kind of cut is probarbly special for that specific jewler) which is a cut in the lowest part of of the diamond. (Also called the pavilion).

Scorpion23 · 02-23-2005, 09:36 AM

Cervantes, I forgot about the cut and shape difference. I looked at the link and I don't believe that it's the bottom cut, since the top of the stone is what differed the most. Also, the name definately had an s in it. As cuset, or cueset.

I'm going to see a wholesaler next weekend in the same town. I'll see if he's ever heard of it, but I'm beginning to think that it's an exclusive shape. :-(

btw, would a different cut on the culet make a difference in the look of the diamond since a good stone wouldn't have light from the face reflect off it?

Cervantes · 02-23-2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorpion23

btw, would a different cut on the culet make a difference in the look of the diamond since a good stone wouldn't have light from the face reflect off it?

A sligt difference if done properly I'd imagine. It all has to do with light and how it refracts from the inner surfaces. A different cut in the culet could change the way the light behaves in the stone, make it refract more (or less) times against other surfaces.
The dynamics of light in diamonds isn't my speciality though..

raeanna74 · 02-23-2005, 12:34 PM

What you're describing sounds like a Radient cut to me.

Here's a photo

and here you can see the difference between asscher or radient.

Scorpion23 · 02-23-2005, 08:27 PM

Well, I just found out how to spell it. It's cusette, and is most similar to the asscher but not exactly the same. Still can't find any other place that sells it though.

ophelia783 · 04-29-2005, 11:24 AM

Hey,
I don't know if you're still looking, or if you proposed or what, but apparantly it's a "Cushette" cut, and Robbins Diamonds sells it....check them out!

http://www.robbinsdiamonds.com/cushette.shtml

Jackebear · 04-30-2005, 01:38 AM

Wow, "ophelia", that is a beautiful diamond.

I never heard of or seen that cut before. I learned something new today...thanks.

nickynicole · 04-30-2005, 04:21 PM

Was it a traditional 'cushion' cut diamond? It looks like that's a lot easier to come across than a 'cusette,' which appears to be an improved version or a rather old cut.

jfranco13 · 05-02-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ophelia783

Hey,
I don't know if you're still looking, or if you proposed or what, but apparantly it's a "Cushette" cut, and Robbins Diamonds sells it....check them out!

http://www.robbinsdiamonds.com/cushette.shtml

That is an awesome looking stone. I wonder if you can get it in something other than an engagement ring

02-22-2005, 04:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scorpion23 Psycho	Has anyone heard of this Diamond Cut? I've been looking around with my SO recently for engagement rings, and she fell in love with a diamond shape that we've never seen before. The store was Ramsey's in Louisiana, and they called it a cueset or cuset cut. It was kinda between a princess and round cut, but had a higher brilliance than either of the two. I would love to get her a diamond with that shape, but don't want to be stuck with only one choice for a seller. Has anyone heard of this, or know where I can find one?

02-22-2005, 04:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
ophelia783 Insane Location: West Virginia	I was under the impression that the diamond cut that you're describing was known as an Ascher cut......Maybe it goes by a different name where you're from? __________________ ~~ He with a sharp tongue slits his own throat ~~

02-23-2005, 04:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cervantes Psycho Location: Above you	http://www.thediamondshop.co.uk/learningcentre/cut.htm Some info about shapes and the Asscher shape. There is a difference between cut and shape, Asscher is a shape while cut is how "deep" the diamond is and what angles the facets has: http://www.adiamondisforever.com/buy/4cs_flash.html A flash about diamonds, it speaks of culet cut (I'm just grasping for straws here but maybe you heard about a special form of culet cut that reflects even more light? then that kind of cut is probarbly special for that specific jewler) which is a cut in the lowest part of of the diamond. (Also called the pavilion). __________________ - "Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.." - "Religions take everything that your DNA naturally wants to do to survive and pro-create and makes it wrong." - "There is only one absolute truth and that is that there is only one absolute truth." Last edited by Cervantes; 02-23-2005 at 05:01 AM..

02-23-2005, 12:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	What you're describing sounds like a Radient cut to me. Here's a photo and here you can see the difference between asscher or radient. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

04-29-2005, 11:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
ophelia783 Insane Location: West Virginia	Hey, I don't know if you're still looking, or if you proposed or what, but apparantly it's a "Cushette" cut, and Robbins Diamonds sells it....check them out! http://www.robbinsdiamonds.com/cushette.shtml __________________ ~~ He with a sharp tongue slits his own throat ~~

02-22-2005, 04:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
dirtyrascal7 That's what she said	i'm no expert, but a lot of jewelers have their own unique cut... so unfortunately, if it's not a standard cut like emerald, princess, round, etc... then you may be stuck with only one seller choice. also, just throwing this out there... maybe it looked more brilliant because it was a much better stone. i wouldn't be surprised if they showed you a very clear, high quality diamond with their special cut and some lower quality diamonds with the standard cuts so they could essentially trick you into spending more. just take your time and do lots of research and ask lots of questions... if you feel uncomfortable or pressured at any time, i suggest taking your business elsewhere.

02-22-2005, 04:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Scorpion23 Psycho	ophelia783: It's similar to an Ascher, but the edges didn't seem as square. Or maybe I'm just not remembering correctly. I'm trying to go off memory since I couldn't get a picture.

02-23-2005, 09:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Scorpion23 Psycho	Cervantes, I forgot about the cut and shape difference. I looked at the link and I don't believe that it's the bottom cut, since the top of the stone is what differed the most. Also, the name definately had an s in it. As cuset, or cueset. I'm going to see a wholesaler next weekend in the same town. I'll see if he's ever heard of it, but I'm beginning to think that it's an exclusive shape. :-( btw, would a different cut on the culet make a difference in the look of the diamond since a good stone wouldn't have light from the face reflect off it?

02-23-2005, 08:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
Scorpion23 Psycho	Well, I just found out how to spell it. It's cusette, and is most similar to the asscher but not exactly the same. Still can't find any other place that sells it though.

04-30-2005, 01:38 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jackebear Insane	Wow, "ophelia", that is a beautiful diamond. I never heard of or seen that cut before. I learned something new today...thanks. __________________ Life's jounney is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn-out shouting, "Holy sh*t! What a ride!" - unknown

04-30-2005, 04:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
nickynicole Crazy Location: not here.	Was it a traditional 'cushion' cut diamond? It looks like that's a lot easier to come across than a 'cusette,' which appears to be an improved version or a rather old cut.