02-18-2005, 06:58 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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I definitely stayed away from The Dunes because they had the ugliest waitresses. If the Playboy Club today were still around would they be able to do something like this? If you go to a strip club especially the better ones like SCORES... well you get the idea. I remember the airlines having problems enforcing such a thing a few decades ago, but then a small boutique airlines took to the air not too long ago to fill that same gap, Hooters Air. Personally, as long as it's upfront and stated I have no issues with it. It's only if it's covert and not stated officially but kept unofficially then there's something to hide and can be sketchy. If all parties go into it knowingly, then more power to them all.
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02-18-2005, 07:36 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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I agree, they should have every right to let people go for not fulfilling the standards they recquire for the position they fill. That's the same with any job position.
About the women developing stress and eating disorders.... a good diet and excercise isn't hard to do. If they get stressed over it, they can just look for a job elsewhere.
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02-18-2005, 02:25 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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if it's stated and part of the company's rules, then i don't see a problem with it. just because you are a man/woman doesn't mean you can work where ever you want. rules abound in business and this is just one of theirs. i'm all for it, if it's stated up front.
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02-18-2005, 03:17 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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I've been to the Borgata on a number of occasions and they waitresses there are definitely head turners. More so when you compare them to the other hotel/casinos in Atlantic City. The article is spot on when it says "They're doing well because they've tapped into a segment of the market that wasn't coming to Atlantic City."
This place was crowded each time I was there and it didn't seem to matter what night of the week. If you compare their occupancy and/or utilization rate (tables/slots, etc) they are definitely kicking arse compared to the places on the boardwalk. The Trop-aka-Slopicana.....eeeeh not so much. The Borgata is glitz and glam and the waitresses reflect the sex appeal of the place. Is the weight issue right or wrong...I dunno. I'd go back to the Slopicana if there was no Borgata but I do prefer the later. Maybe that makes me a pig...right now I'm too tired to care.
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02-18-2005, 04:52 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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I have mixed feelings about this one. Who wants their weight monitored by their boss?
But then again, who wants their favorite casino to lose its edge... seems that by stating it outright like this, everyone has those expectations going into the job. Those who are in the job have every right to leave as the new policy is put into place. The only disgruntled person mentioned in the article seems to have no bearing on the actual situation - she gained weight for medical reasons (a change in medication) - such a weight difference would NOT be a just cause for her to be fired.
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02-19-2005, 06:37 AM | #6 (permalink) |
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I was watching a bit on this on TV. The thing that bothered me that I got from it is that it seems the 7% is based on current weight. If a person is already below what a healthy weight for that person is this they are penalized more than a waitress that weighed in over what she should be.
Also, there are many people who like a woman with a little more meat on them than others. I'd think a casino should be better able to provide an edge for them than the costume or body style of the staff.
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02-19-2005, 07:09 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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The most bothersome thing about this, after watching the news report on it this morning, is that women who return to work after giving birth, are given three months to get back to the weight they were at before they had the baby. One woman interviewed said that some mothers are not breastfeeding their child because of the increased caloric intake that it requires.
The only concessions made if a woman needs a costume in a larger size is if she has had breast augmentation. Back in the day, I seem to recall the Playboy Club having similar rules, but I think it was how the costume fit. They claim that the men are subjected to the same rules that the women are, but somehow if a guy gained 20 pounds in muscle, the hotel wouldn't complain.
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02-19-2005, 08:10 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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personally, i feel Borgata's is being completely fair about the situation. they seem to have thought about this from both the employer and employee's perspectives and come up with a rational solution.
first, they are applying it to both male and female employees. second, they aren't imposing a specific weight limit (which would definitely encourage eating disorders), but simply saying that employees should stay within 7% of their weight when they were hired... what's so horrible about that? now if someone needs to develop an eating disorder to prevent themselves from gaining 7% of their body weight, then they have some other serious problem... those women's rights advocates need to rethink their claims. |
02-19-2005, 08:27 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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I wonder if a woman trimmed down but gained over 7% of her previous body weight (e.g. swap fat for muscle) if they would take her measurements into account. I'm also curious as to why they're going to give women new uniforms post-pregnancy. Are the costumes that revealing? Are stretch marks that big of a deal?
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02-19-2005, 08:27 AM | #10 (permalink) | |
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02-19-2005, 08:39 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
That's what she said
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perhaps it would make more sense to base it on % body fat rather than weight... but that seems even more imposing. |
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