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Old 01-30-2005, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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All I can say is, wow....

Some guys are driving by a kid on a bike, and he hits the kid with the door, at the same time falling out of the car. Fate, however, conspired against him, and he face-planted on a parked car just as he fell. I can't imagine he walked away without any injuries, if he survived at all.

Anyway, this video spawned a discussion between a friend of mine and myself - do you think he got what he deserved? Although he was doing something completely asinine, potentially injuring innocent people, he may have paid for it with his life.

Your thoughts?

****Edit****

Well, I did a bit more research, and from what I gather, the kid lived. He did, however, spend almost a month in the hospital and had massive reconstructive surgery. He said that it was his friend, and he was just trying to "smack" him on the back of the head - they do it all the time. He couldn't reach him through the window, so he leaned out the door to do it. This was, of course, his story only after denying that he had tried to hit anyone, with the door or otherwise.

Just figured I'd throw that out there for any of you that were interested...

****Edit****

I IMed the fellow, and posted his injuries below, if anyone is interested
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I feel sympathy for both the kid on the bike and the kid with the smashed up face.
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Karma to the double, he got what he deserved. Not only was he stupid enough to open the door and hit someone with it intentionally but he was even more stupid doing it without his seatbelt on. I don't belive in karma for evil, however I do belive in karma for stupidity. If youre stupid enough to do it you deserve all the shit you get for it.
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Old 01-30-2005, 11:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow! im speechless . . . why would someone even do that in the first place?
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm not even sure he does hit the kid on the bike. Sure he does come off as sort of a prick, but to actually slam your face into the back of a car, I doubt anybody really deserves that... It's downright painful to even watch
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Through moral extrapolation based on that video, I'd say he's probably a general asshole and I don't think he was necessarily undeserving of hitting his face on the parked car. Besides, there is a positive side to it; he has it on video and it'll make a great story to tell.
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
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there is a positive side to it; he has it on video and it'll make a great story to tell.
That raises an interesting point, why where they taking videos of it? Were they going around, hitting someone with a car door. And watching it again and again. And laugh about how funny it was?

Either way. I right there with skier. Two wrongs don't make a right. But I do believe in justice. And I think that was poetic justice at its best
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Fuck him. Asshole should have worn his seat belt.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Should've worn his seatbelt? How about shouldn't be trying to whack cyclists with his car door?
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well a smarter asshole would have had a seat belt on and kicked the door open with his feet to knock kids off their bikes.

That looked very deadly, if anything I am sure it broke his face..all of it.
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hahaha, what a dumbass. I say he got what he deserved. If I were the kid on the bike, I would have been laughing my ass off.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I believe the kid on the bike was actually hit, there is a sharp banging sound as he opens the door, right before he falls out.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:35 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was hit with the door.
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Sweet, sweet justice!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Ev'ryone come on...
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sorry..But i laughed my ass off. I watched it a few times and he didn't even hit the kid on the bike..The kid was going up a drive way onto the sidewalk. And that poor asshole ate the bumper.

Anybody trying to hit people on thier bike with a car door, Deserves what they get..And this dude got it.

EDIT:

Ok, I thought it was just one kid. But i see the kid in the red shirt now..It's hard to tell if he actually hit him. And if he did hit him, He walked away with a couple scratches while this guy walked away with half a face.

I don't have any sympathy for him.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What kind of person tries to pull that anyway? I hope he survived and learned a lesson about what happens when you try to intentionally hurt somebody. Of course, he probably won't.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I feel no sympathy for some idiot trying to hit innocent kids with their car. How stupid could you really be, I hope that kid got arrested for being stupid and got his license taken away. Pointless.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Poetic justice.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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The thought that anyone would find that accident funny really sickens me. Undoubtedly the guy was a total jackass if he was trying to door some kid that was minding his own business, but that doesn't mean he deserved to suffer such a horrid injury.

Too many people are desensitized by the television and film industry. Maybe somehow you think that this guy stood up and walked away from this like something from a cartoon show. In reality the guy undoubtedly spent a lot of time in a hospital, and quite likely suffered disfiguring injuries that will affect him for the rest of his life. In my book there's nothing funny about that.

As far as Karma goes, even by a liberal interpretation of the concept where you believe in Karma affecting your status in this lifetime, it's not appropriate to the action.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Apparently he didn't die. http://www.the-hole.net/forums/index...topic=4950&hl= There are links to this on about a bajillion other message boards I suspect. This account is from another board I surf and was posted by someone who got it off of something awful.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What sickens me is kids driving around assaulting the innocent with cars. The tables were turned on this kid and I am sure he and the others in the car will refrain from such activities in the future.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:51 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I personally don't think it is funny. I can tell you this, if it were my kid on the bike, that douchebag would pray for death when I got ahold of him.
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I think he got what he deserved. Sometimes karma takes a little while to come back to you, but in this case, it cut out the middlemen.

In any case, I see it as an extrapolation of the Golden Rule.
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:08 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I found the video to be hysterical and I got great joy out of watching him eat bumper. Next time, the stupid jackass will think twice before purposely trying to injure someone, he got what he deserved and entertained me thoroughly at the same time. I have no sympathy for morons who intentionally try and hurt others.
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What sickens me is kids driving around assaulting the innocent with cars. The tables were turned on this kid and I am sure he and the others in the car will refrain from such activities in the future.
What's more likely to happen is the lesson they'll take away from this isn't, "Let's not knock over kids," rather, it'll be, "Use your seatbelt when you're gonna knock over kids."
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:25 PM   #27 (permalink)
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How idiotic and cruel do you have to be to even think about hitting some poor kid on a bike with your door? Well I guess idiotic enough to also fall out of a car. Instant karma, I like it
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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thats one hell of a lesson learned. you know his parents had probably told him not to open the car door while it was moving...he found out why
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Old 01-31-2005, 07:51 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Wow, I don't understand what would drive a person to do that! Just so stupid.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:37 PM   #30 (permalink)
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In reality the guy undoubtedly spent a lot of time in a hospital, and quite likely suffered disfiguring injuries that will affect him for the rest of his life. In my book there's nothing funny about that.
Yup. He's got a permanent, lifetime reminder to act like a decent human being.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yup. He's got a permanent, lifetime reminder to act like a decent human being.
Too bad it took whacking a car bumper with his face to do it, huh?

You do bad stuff, bad stuff happens. Sometimes it's really that simple. I feel sorry for the kid and the dolt who fell out of the car, but I bet he won't be doing stupid shit like this again. Chances are he won't. He got off lucky (He's not dead, is he?) this time, next time Karma may decide not to fuck around.
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I IMed the Dude...

Here is a bit from our conversation - just for anyone interested in the injuries...
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Mattkl390: shattered nose, broken pallette,missing 3 front teeth,, and internal crack of my skull
NoSoup: Ouch... did you need reconstructive surgery?
Mattkl390: yeah lots
NoSoup: Granted, it was a really stupid thing to do...
NoSoup: but It isn't like I haven't ever done anything dumb either
NoSoup: fortunately, there wasn't a car parked in front of me, lol
Mattkl390: yea good thing cuz it can be brutal
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yup. He's got a permanent, lifetime reminder to act like a decent human being.
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Mattkl390: shattered nose, broken pallette,missing 3 front teeth,, and internal crack of my skull
For anyone who would regard that list of injuries as reasonable and appropriate penalty for trying to knock over a bicyclist, I would submit that you are not behaving as a decent human being.

Oh well, I'm clearly in the minority with that opinion. I'll just console myself with the conviction that few (if any) of you would display such a cavalier attitude if confronted with this person and the magnitude of his injuries in person. It's so much easier to be harsh and cruel in the conforting anonymity of the internet.
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:44 PM   #34 (permalink)
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For anyone who would regard that list of injuries as reasonable and appropriate penalty for trying to knock over a bicyclist, I would submit that you are not behaving as a decent human being.

Oh well, I'm clearly in the minority with that opinion. I'll just console myself with the conviction that few (if any) of you would display such a cavalier attitude if confronted with this person and the magnitude of his injuries in person. It's so much easier to be harsh and cruel in the conforting anonymity of the internet.
Ohhhhkay. What do you think should be the "reasonable and appropriate penalty" for trying (and actually succeeding) to knock over a bicyclist?

I would hope your sympathies extend to the bicyclist(s) who have been injured by this fool and his cohorts. Getting sandbagged by a car door doesn't sound like a Sunday picnic to me.

Harsh and cruel? What this guy did was harsh and cruel, and if he had not been injured he and his friends would have been laughing their collective butt off later in the comforting anonymity of their living room while viewing the videotape they took.


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Old 01-31-2005, 09:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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For anyone who would regard that list of injuries as reasonable and appropriate penalty for trying to knock over a bicyclist, I would submit that you are not behaving as a decent human being.

Oh well, I'm clearly in the minority with that opinion. I'll just console myself with the conviction that few (if any) of you would display such a cavalier attitude if confronted with this person and the magnitude of his injuries in person. It's so much easier to be harsh and cruel in the conforting anonymity of the internet.
Yeah, because assaulting kids doing nothing more than riding their bikes down the street is something you'd want to defend. The possibility of the kid on the bike being harmed is tremendous. That car has a lot of mass and hitting the kid can do some serious damage. Falling under the car, being dragged by it... all for what? Riding a bike? I'd say your priorities are rather fucked.

Who knows how many other times this happened before these asshats learned their lesson. I'd wager it's happened before. "Do unto others..." as the man says.
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Old 02-01-2005, 04:57 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I'll just console myself with the conviction that few (if any) of you would display such a cavalier attitude if confronted with this person and the magnitude of his injuries in person. It's so much easier to be harsh and cruel in the conforting anonymity of the internet.
Well cry a river for this fucktard why don't you. What they were doing was without regard for the safety of any of the persons they were doing it to. The use of a videotape shows that it was for their amusement. Even had the stain died, I still bet his buddies would have posted this all over the Internet. And had the kid on the bike been the one to meet the bumper of the car, they would have hauled ass out of there worried about nothing but getting their asses caught.
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:11 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Of course he got what he deserved, it was of his own doing. It's not like he clipped the kid and then someone smashed his face in as payback, he injured himself being stupid and trying to hurt someone else. He suffered the consequences of his actions, no more, no less.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:31 AM   #38 (permalink)
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As a bicyclist -- grown man -- I have on one occasion had a teenager lean out of a car and try to push me over. There were several in the car, and it was planned; the car slowed down and moved close to the bike lane where he could reach me.

But it was a bad neighborhood, and I was on guard. He missed. There was no payback at the time, unfortunately, but I have no doubt that he's done something even more stupid since then, and suffered for it. When people escape consequences from their actions, they usually take it as permission to keep acting the same way. Until they get unlucky, and their karma eats them alive.
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Old 02-01-2005, 08:44 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 02-01-2005, 12:39 PM   #40 (permalink)
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ok this is how i see it....he got what he deserved.

1.) him trying to hit a bicyclist with a door or whatever is one man inflicting pain on another. the bicyclist did nothing to deserve being hit with a door.

2.) this guy getting his face smashed by a car was his own fault. his actions led to his consequences. its not like he was purposely hit by a car. he didnt think. i mean, if you think about it, their is a pretty fucking good chance that you could fall out of the car, leaning out the open door with no seatbelt. its common sense.

now having said that...lets say this dumb kid just fell out of the car in front of the bicyclist. the bicyclist comes up, picks up the kid and rams his face into the front of the car. THAT would be brutal. in no way would the actions warrent the punishment.

BTW, i would almost love seeing more of that video....not the kids face, but his friend's reactions.
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