Now this is funny AND appropriate!

Why don't i drink robitussin on a regular basis?

I don't know, because it sucks? Yep.

I don't feel like i need an escape from sobriety to have a good time. I have been moderately disgusted more than a few times by friends who can't handle doing anything without first getting high. I have been more disgusted by the many users who don't feel comfortable being around people who don't use. I don't really drink that much either. I guess i just think intoxication as recreation is a waste of time.

I think a big problem is the fact that people try to demonize it by giving examples and saying, "These people failed in life because of it." It's simply not true. Did those people fail? Yes, but they didn't fail because of the drug. They failed because they weren't responsible.

In boo's example of people not moving forward in life - that's strictly will and ambition. A drug won't change that unless you make the conscious choice to sit around all day doing it. Considering weed is NOT addictive, that's like saying, "Video games ruined these people's lives. All they do is sit around and play Halo 2 all day." Yeah, it CAN be bad (I know people who've failed classes because of video games), but it's not a reason to put it down.

Some of the most successful and responsible people I know use it on a fairly regular basis, and I've also learned to use (when I was doing it) responsibly, so that's why my opinions on this matter are how they are. Of all the people I've ever known in my life, only TWO have been "failures", but their personalities were like that before they even smoked, so I really shouldn't even be counting them.

I think a lot of people need to lighten up in how they view it and unlearn a lot of the uninformed crap they've picked up over the years from the government and media. Either that or people need to take a consistent stance. If you're against weed, then be just as against caffeine, smoking, and drinking. No hovering in between with the "yeah, but those are legal."

We all know that there are plenty of laws that make no sense, so just because it's illegal doesn't make it wrong.

It really boils down to this (and I've said it before elsewhere): there's no difference between the already legal substances and marijuana, yet when people reply, they make it seem like it's the most horrible thing on this planet. They'll say things like, "It's too expensive, I have better things to do with my time, it's pointless, people are dumb, etc", yet, they'll go out to a bar, spend $20 and get drunk for a few hours and see absolutely no problems with it - or they smoke... or they'll be incredibly obese and drop $20 a week on fast food. As if those are any better, ya know?

That just strikes me as very odd. It's quite disturbing that people don't question these things more often. I believe we'd be better off as a society if they did.

i've only smoked a bit of marijuana - like 20 or so times. i enjoyed it when i did it. Things are so much funnier when watching them and sometimes a really good laugh fest whilst watching family guy or Father Ted on it makes you feel a lot better once you were totally sober. Music also sounded amazing when on it. Throw on AiC's Unplugged album and it totally engulfed me. The sounds were so crisp and real.

However, i havent smoked it in 7 months or so even though i have some in my room in at the moment. it's just completely unaddictive for me personally. i don't have a desire to do it at all. i think i will soon as i really do like th effect it has on me.

Another reason is that, for me, weed is a solitary thing. i find stoned people annoying when i'm sober, and i find them annoying when i'm high. i like to chill in my room with the music cranked and think about unimaginably complex things that seem to make that bit more sense when i'm high. Now i'm at uni i'm never alone for more than an hour so i'm a bit screwed there too.


Also, smoking has to tbe the rankest thing ever. i really hate smoking the shit. rough stuff.

so there you go.

I'm interested in staying healthy and smart, pot doesn't seem to be a brilliant idea in that light. The legality issues dont' really worry me (as I'm not at all convinced I'd be caught if I were smart about it), but I drink very infrequently and not to the point where I'd make myself sick and if I did try pot it would only be as an experiment, nothing I would undertake more frequently. I don't have the time, money, or desire for that sort of thing.

If you and your friends are successful etc.... then you are the exception to the rule. I have known people to throw companies, occupations, marriages, educations and friendships out for a bit of weed. I am not talking about "hard" drugs, just weed (sometimes not even for "good" weed).

My example is from life. Life has many lessons. I try to learn from both the good and bad experiences that myself and others have encountered. Ask someone who has failed a drug test and ruined a military career, or has been dismissed from a job that had potential.

I believe that pot is addictive. If not physically, at least mentally. Too many rational thinking friends have made life altering decisions while in a haze. Call it a choice. You only get so many.

Your opinion is known, while I do not agree with it, I do respect your right to it. I do hope it is as informed as you believe. Remember that a person that makes a choice to partake in pot also accepts its responsibilities and consequences.

Justifying because of legality, alcohol or cost does not make it a good choice. It just makes it easier to justify.

VERY well said stompy I totally agree

Paranoia....seriously, It makes me totally paranoid

#1 I have always found the smell awful
(Also money, law, health, and I am not that stable to start with)

I'll only pipe in to say I agree 100% with Stompy.

Lot's of funny stuff here..

I don't smoke weed anymore because I get really bad panick attacks when I do. Pretty bad shit too: Heart races out of control, I get hot flashes, numbness in the laft arm, shortness of breath, kinda all of the classic heart-attack symptoms. I do miss it a lot though. I too was very creative when I was high. I loved the feeling and the experience. Sometimes I wish I could still smoke, but I was pretty bad with the shit for a while. I smoked it all of the time. Actually dropped out of college so I could devote more time to work and getting the money to party 24-7

I hardly ever smoke pot.

I will, however, reward myself with a Sampoerna X-tra clove cigarette on occasion.

Because it isn't high on my list of priorities. I love the smell, but I've got more important things to do than smoke up.

Oh, and I don't want to go buying it either. Wine is expensive enough, and I only partake on occasion (maybe 1 - 2 x per month).

The whole debate about pot smacks of inappropriate priorities. Honestly, our government actually took time to debate this. Personally, working saving money, and planning for the future are of tantamount importance. Pot is way down around the level of getting Halo 2.

why don't i smoke? because I used to, I don't need to, and there's a negative stigma attached to it.

I've been down that road and it only leads to snack foods. There are better ways to spend my time.

Basically too scared of my addictive personality, I would probably be smoking crack in a week ...


XDA

nothing wrong with a bit of crack

I dont smoke,dont drink,dont get high in any form.Nothing appealing to me about getting fucked up.There isnt enough positive to balance the negative,and after seeing people the way they act when drunk or high,it's just more incentive not to.

that's what I was going to post :D

Shit, toss one on top of the other for doubleplus pleasure!

I don't because of the consequences if I do.

I can't afford the ticket. I can't afford to risk losing my job over a failed drug test either. I need money to pay for tuition, so until I'm out of college or win the lottery, pot-free is where I'll be.

I will however, at some point in my life, ingest pot. As an artist (music) I cannot deny the hard evidence throughout history that marijuana enhances the creative capabilities of the brain. All of the greats did it. I've done lots of research on the subject and have learned how THC effects the brain and body and I have no worries about giving it a try in a responsible environment. In fact, one of the first things my girlfriend and I are going to do when we get our own place is try marijuana for the first time (for us both!). We've got a whole line of things planned too. We're going to watch a movie, play video games, and most importantly: have sex.

So, does pot do anything to you guys during sex?

For the record: I've never smoked anything or even drank. How's that for a boring college life. :rolleyes:

yep, does great things.

should be fun if it's both your first time!


from your research, you should remember that mj is a hallucinogen (HINT: make sure you get great stuff and have a sexual journey!)

Great! I'm excited! If only I didn't have to wait so long to begin that journy :) It'll be a while until I'm in a secure enough environment that I can afford losing my shitty "bearly above minimum-wage" job if things hit the fan.

Stompy: Great post. You've formed into words the thoughts which have been swimming in my head for quite some time. Have you seen the recent commercials demonizing pot? Those things tick me off. They're flat out lies akin to the 'duck and cover' commercials of yesteryear. Just flat out lies- how can they do this? How can anti-anti-drug people even begin to combat something that preys on the fact that people can't think for themselves. My instinct is to educate people. However, since they cannot think for themselves, what good will that do? I really want to do something against the 'anti-drug' commercials (specifically the anti-pot ones). I just don't know how to go about doing it.

From my experience, you might want to watch out for a bit of dryness from your girlfriend. I've encountered it a few times...I personally love to have sex (and do a few other things) when I've partaken, but I've had a few girlfriends whose bodies wouldn't cooperate with their desires, so to speak.

Regarding legality - I more or less adhere to a position similar to Stompy et al. I could care less who uses various substances, as long as they are responsible and accept accountability for their actions. I really can't begin to fathom how the current policy of the United States, in particular, and for that matter much of the world can not be viewed as hypocracy. Drug use is, always has been, and always will be a facet of human society. I think it's more of a question of how you deal with drug use, and how you treat abuse. Specifically regarding the use of marajuana, the simple truth is the detrimental effects that are often observed with marajuana use are no where near severe enough to warrant the light in which is held in our society from a legal standpoint - especially in light of the standard we have set with respect to acceptance of the debilitating effects of alchohol, and the addictive qualities of nicotine. The combination of those two drugs is far more detrimental to one's health than that of marajuana.

Regarding why one should/would use herb...well...obviously, if you don't like to use mind/perception altering substances, you're not going to like marajuana. If you do, I personally think it's one of the best. I'm not a regular user these days, in fact it's been a really long time since I last smoked; however, I think that the issue of becoming lazy and sitting around eating Cheetos while watching Darkman re-runs is primarily an issue of choice. I always loved to run, play soccer, play music and so forth when I was high. I always felt as though the situation you placed yourself in had a large effect on what you did, as well (like it always does, with or without the influence of drugs). If you go your friend's house, and there is nothing but a Playstation and some pizza, and you've got a bag of herb...you're probably going to play video games and sit on your duff. If you go to a party with a deck of cards, or to a friend's house with a soccer ball...you're probably going to play a game of spades or knock the ball around.

Just coping with reality is enough of a high.
The problem with most "drugs" is that they can become addictive. Addictions are hell. The drug becomes the reason for living and life is just a way to get the drug. Since I know I am not strong enough to break an addiction, I refrain from taking the first step.

This is a really easy question for me to answer -

Because I regularly do stupid shit and handle social situations perfectly without weed and it would be really stupid for me to go out of my way to choose an illegal substance just for a little something different. A drinky-poo is usually enough for me if I'm really in the mood and I don't have to worry about any smudges on my record from it.

Lungs....

Smoked it years ago. Sometimes occassionally, but usually daily until he bag was gone since it was tough to keep it fresh. Never at near, around or beore work.

Then I bought a humidor and that worked, so a bag would last for months with occassional use. But then I got into riding bikes for 50, 60, 70 miles. Wanted to save my lungs. Also grew up I guess.

Did you know the smoke from one joint equals a whole pack of cigs??

it's a tool...........you learn how to use tools in life,and the more you use the tools,the better you get at controling them.........hey,each to there own i say.

laziness.........bullshit.....you were lazy to begin with then.

can't keep a job........bullshit again......kept the same job for the last 14 years........

i myself have figured out more things in life while stoned on pot......if you focus your energy to the task at hand......no problem with pot then.

music.........as roachboy said......it helps and/or enlightens the senses.(for me anyways)

every one has thier thoughts and feelings on what pot does ........good for you.

just don't stuff all the crap you've been "told", about the harms and risks of pot,down my throat.

been smokin' for many years.......and i don't need to.........i choose to.

*heads off to smoke a doobie,and will return later to see what kinda shit i just stirred up.*


not a dig at any of you who choose not to smoke,that's the good thing about life..........we have choices.


and i'm not preaching that pot is good for you........so don't preach how bad it is to those of us who do smoke.


(carry on folks) :rolleyes:

heh flyman, after listening to your voice I can actually hear you saying that! :D

I think the problem is not everyone who smokes habitually and few of those who oppose its use see it as a tool. they see it as a lifestyle.

this is fine too bermuDa......each to thier own, right......my lifestyle is not all about gettin' high and pot is good,.........but,pot is in my lifestyle.

as well as are many other things........kids sports,thier homework, my job.....oil change on the vehicles,vacuum the basement,do the dishes.......pay the mortgage,take out the trash....you get where i'm comin' from i hope.............priorities....if you have them in order,whether you drink or smoke pot...or cigarrettes......there is not really a problem then.

pot to me should not be made such a huge deal of......if so,as many others have said......why not bring up the same Q to people who drink alcohol and smoke tobacco.....is it cuz these two deadly "choices" are legal?

sorry for mini rant........

..one tequila*...2 tequila...3 tequila..floor...

i have other things taking up my time
:p

You know, I think you're probably right about that. I've found it's usually because they've had to deal with someone before who was a real pain, and who also smoked marajuana. Even worse, they just suck up a stereotype from uninformed sources. To reiterate earlier points, I could say the same thing about video games. I used to work with a bunch of guys that played video games non-stop...always went to DefCon, etc. It's a lifestyle. It can be detrimental to other facets of one's life as well; for example, one of these guys would leave his wife and two kids waiting for him for hours at home after work, while he was hiding in our computer lab playing Quake.

I'm personally of the opinion that objects surrounding us (including drugs, video games, sexual partners, etc) don't take on a value in the sense of good or bad, so much as we define that value in our relationship to these external objects.

I love both smoking pot and drinking beer. I smoke pot probably eight or ten times a year, almost always with the same group of guys I partied with in college 15 years ago. I love the stuff, though I never buy it, just smoke it when someone's got it. I enjoy the hell out of getting a buzz on & laughing like a little kid being tickled. Both alcohol & weed give me a perma-grin.

And no, I don't need either alcohol or weed to make me happy. I'm married to a great gal & have two great kids. I laugh all day long whether I'm partying or not.

I got tired of feeling stupid when I woke up. OK, felt stupid the two times, but I need this head, and I couldn't shake the clouds from the noggin for a full 2 days after trying it. No more.

I'll tell you, i think the world would be a better place if everyone was a little altered. pot might just stop all the crazy.

"They lie about marijuana. Tell you that pot smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."

"Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to be a bit... unnatural?"

-Bill Hicks

Growing up I felt I was on the hyper side of everything and was afraid that drugs could be more harmful if I got more hyper