11-06-2004, 03:07 PM | #41 (permalink) | |
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I don't see anything wrong with wanting to move away from your birth country if it no longer holds the values you hold. Lots of people give up their citizenship each year because not everyone wants to be an American.
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11-06-2004, 03:16 PM | #42 (permalink) | |
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11-06-2004, 03:56 PM | #43 (permalink) | |||
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These folks obviously don't want to do that they just want something gifted to them so I gladly appreciate them leaving if they don't want to work for it. Quote:
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11-06-2004, 04:07 PM | #44 (permalink) | |
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[QUOTE=feelgood]Lets assume for a moment there that's what the Americans who wants to move to Canada are thinking...
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11-07-2004, 10:26 AM | #46 (permalink) |
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Lol two canadians argueing reminds me of two americans argueing. Leads me to the conclusion that no matter where you go, someone will disagree with you, so why leave?
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11-07-2004, 11:34 AM | #47 (permalink) | |
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Anyways, now that I'm done being an ass, I hope most of these Americans move to Alberta. Maybe they can pull our votes enough to the left to avoid political situations like our current one (stupid Klein). Feelgood, I hope you realise that your post is almost completely opinion. Do you expect that you'll sway Americans by stating your opinion on matters? "The legal system is too easy on offenders" *stamp* OPINION "We get taxed to death" *stamp* OPINION "Our medical system is failing" *stamp* OPINION "Our educational system is failing" *stamp* OPINION Last edited by Suave; 11-07-2004 at 11:38 AM.. |
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11-07-2004, 11:43 AM | #48 (permalink) |
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I know I may sound like I am for moving to Canada, I'm only playing around, I wouldn't actually do it.
I am willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt here and hopefully he will put us back on track. I am not going to sit in fear or run from it either- my goal is to be the little raindrop of light, spreading my passions for life and current issues through music and poetry. Every little drop adds to a puddle which can grow into an ocean. |
11-07-2004, 02:57 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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I said I was moving to New Zealand if Bush got re-elected (sorry, Canada's too fucking cold for me!). I was mainly joking, but I am truly scared of what another 4 yrs of Bush means for our country. And it's not so much that my guy lost or whatever, it's the mindset of a people who would vote for such an obvious idiot that really troubles me. It's the ethnocentric attitude of Americans that we are de facto better than everyone else and that it's somehow our responsibility to make every country just like us. Why do so many people here believe that?
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11-07-2004, 03:07 PM | #50 (permalink) | |
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Are we so smart that we can call other people idiots? I'm sorry I can't justify judging someones intelligence if I don't know them personally.
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11-07-2004, 04:39 PM | #51 (permalink) | |||
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What does knowing the guy personally have to do with judging him an idiot or not? Are you saying the people that think he's an intelligent leader are flawed in their assessment? Quote:
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11-07-2004, 04:58 PM | #52 (permalink) | |
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11-07-2004, 05:23 PM | #53 (permalink) |
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"What does knowing the guy personally have to do with judging him an idiot or not? Are you saying the people that think he's an intelligent leader are flawed in their assessment?"
Life is easier if you better yourself, then belittle others. If your shining light is to take someone down, then that's all game for you. I would rather give out respect then give insults. I think finding faults in others exposes your own. I'm not saying I don't do that myself, but in a general attitude sort of way I try avoiding at all cost labelling people idiots. Calling someone an idiot doesn't do anything. It doesn't better them, better you, or change the situation.
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11-08-2004, 07:58 AM | #54 (permalink) | |
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Absolutely! maybe we can send some of the whiners from here down to the great ole' south. Every time i hear somebody complaining about our healthcare, taxes, whatever, I just want to cringe. Firstly, they don't have a clue what it's like in other countries. Secondly, with a population of 32 million, but a realistic taxable base of only the wage-earners of that population, plus what ever business/corp contributions can be collected, How are we ever to afford the platinum social services that seems to be expected? yes we are taxed to death. Apparantly all of the money that I make up until the middle of June goes into taxation of one sort or the other. But it used to be worse, I remember when the first week of july was tax free day, so things are changing. But theres a price to pay in level of service. This is huge country, second largest in the world, and we have to support it's infrastructure on what is basically the same population of California (give or take). So if the social programmes developed post WWII have put us into debt, don't whine about it when the solutions cause less than superior service. Move, or contribute. Anyways that's my rant. I 've seen the way things are in Europe, and China (where my parents come from) oh yes, and Korea and Sri Lanka, as well as the USA. So believe me that if you can take the weather, which isn't so dissimilar to most of the US, this is a fantastic country. it's the whiners I don't like. Trade? |
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11-08-2004, 08:04 AM | #55 (permalink) | |
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I think that is just a motto, we're as free as anybody else. At least within the parameters of a written charter (or bill) of rights. We have our own machinery to be puppets to. Usually they are puppets to machinery from the elephant next door... |
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11-08-2004, 08:09 AM | #56 (permalink) | |
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We're still in Afghanistan. Have been since Day One and we don't intend to leave until the job is done. That's one of the (logistical) reasons why we cannot contribute to Iraq. No resources, because we are also heavily committed to Bosnia, Haiti and Rwanda. Last edited by Janey; 11-08-2004 at 08:15 AM.. |
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11-08-2004, 08:29 AM | #57 (permalink) |
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I hate to be the one that burst alot of people's bubble but the United States's isnt a democracy. Its a capitalistic goverment a goverment of law when the fore fathers found this country no were did in any document does it say us the goverment should provide health care education or we should be equal financialy and just because some body has more money than some one else they shouldn't have to pay more taxes. We all have opportunity's to make it in this country granted some may be better than others but its still their for everyone. Also before any one accuses me of being rich or being a religious zelot neither of those or true I just think things in this country have gotten out of hand as far as taxes and hand outs are concerned.
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11-08-2004, 08:50 AM | #58 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 09:55 AM | #61 (permalink) |
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I think it was Lebell who said that despite the fact that one party is in control of all branches, the branches are not under the control of the president. When they are, we can start talking about running north or taking up arms, because that's when we aren't free anymore.
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11-08-2004, 10:39 AM | #62 (permalink) | |
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Hopefully at some point in the not-so-distant future, you'll come to know and love that little guy. As to the content of your post (what can be decyphered), while the United States is not a "true" democracy as far as the original Greek method of government, it is still a representative democracy, and falls within the category of governments that are referred to as democracies. I'm not sure why you brought it up, since it's not relevant to any of the other statements you make, but I felt a need to clarify that point for you. |
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11-08-2004, 11:00 AM | #64 (permalink) |
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Actually, my wife looked at the Canadian immigration site. I think I'd move there, not just to run from Bush (though I worry for this country under his "leadership") but just for a change. I'd have to visit first and see what its like. Now Scotland, I'd move to Scotland tomorrow if given a chance. Absolutely beautiful country and more pubs than I could visit in a lifetime.
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11-08-2004, 11:34 AM | #66 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 11:35 AM | #67 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 12:05 PM | #68 (permalink) | |
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Way to go Averett! It wont be long before you're thoroughly aclimatized and doing all those 'Canadian' things: visiting the mall with your new-found friends, getting lunch at Taco Bell or McDonald's and shopping at Sears, The Pottery Barn or the Sony Store! Take in a few movies at the AMC! Don't worry, if you get homesick, all you have to do is turn the all the packaging on things around to display the English side! |
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11-08-2004, 01:13 PM | #70 (permalink) |
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I would like to be expatriated to another country, but that's a choice based on experience rather than politics.
Having lived in other countries before I know that each has it's pluses and minuses, and it's not always greener on the other side.
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11-08-2004, 01:15 PM | #71 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 01:30 PM | #72 (permalink) | |
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Though I think it would be better if we just annexed California, Florida or maybe Hawaii... The Empire of Canada is not such a far fetched idea... is it?
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11-08-2004, 01:48 PM | #73 (permalink) | |
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I think it would take a lot of courage to uproot a family and move to another country. On the other hand, hundreds do it everyday, so there must be something to it. I guess, though, moving from USA to Canada might be likened to moving from California to New York. Does the border really cause too much difference? In my opinion, the differences between US, Canada and Australia are not that large - based on 30+ years in Australia, about 3 days in Canada and 3 weeks in the US
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11-08-2004, 02:00 PM | #74 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 02:55 PM | #75 (permalink) |
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11-08-2004, 06:43 PM | #76 (permalink) | |
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I'm just saying if you don't like things either change it or shut up and get the hell out you won't be missed. Those that would be willing to run to Canada because they lost ONE election because they couldn't convince like minded people to get out and vote aren't the kind of people that will change anything. They will sit and complain endlessly about any little thing that doesn't go their way and likely a change of scenery won't fix that either. So if Canada wants to take our complainers that sit on their butts and mewl all day fine by me. I'll help you pack just don't ask to come back. |
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11-08-2004, 06:48 PM | #77 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 07:11 PM | #78 (permalink) | |
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11-08-2004, 08:13 PM | #80 (permalink) |
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no way, Shania can stay here. She's uber hot
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