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sixate · 05-15-2003, 03:52 PM

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High school class trip to Seattle includes stop at strip club

By The Associated Press

SPRAGUE — When nine students at Sprague High School took their senior trip to the big city recently, the stops in Seattle included Pike Place Market, the Space Needle and a strip club.
The latter was not on the original itinerary.

Some parents in the small Eastern Washington farm town are outraged that six boys and three girls from the class of 2003 went to Deja Vu Showgirls in Seattle to view exotic dancers last week. Some students went to the club twice in the same day.

All the students were at least 18, so the detour was legal, but Principal Pat Whipple was not amused.

“This was a Sprague High School-sanctioned field trip,” Whipple told columnist Doug Clark of The Spokesman-Review of Spokane in today’s editions. “If they go someplace or do something that is inappropriate to the name of the school, there will be consequences.”

Whipple did not immediately return a telephone call today from The Associated Press.

Sprague is a farm town of 450 people about 30 miles west of Spokane.

The Sprague senior stripper sojourn was detected when the students were late returning to the bus and one of the four chaperones went in search. She asked the manager of nearby Deja Vu to see if any of the students were inside.

Some of the students are not apologizing for the extra sightseeing.

“I don’t really care what people say,” one student told the newspaper. “We’re 18. We didn’t do anything illegal.”

But student Guy Swift did express regret that the Deja Vu detour reflected badly on the teacher who led the trip to Seattle.

“He did give us a lot of trust and free time where we could split up from the group,” Swift, 18, said. “We were selfish, thinking about ourselves.”

The kids didn't do anything wrong.
Shit, I went to a few strip clubs before I was 18.
My problem is with the school/teachers.
This was a school trip and a visit to a nudie bar should not happen.
Although I woulda loved to have gone to a school that took me to a strip club.

focalevo · 05-15-2003, 04:14 PM

You almost have to view this one of two ways:

The 'younger' perspective would probably go something to the extent of, 'wish I had gone on that trip, that would've been cool!'

The parents perspective would be to question how the students were allowed to have that much freedom,(could it be, freedom in school?), to have visited a strip club.

But you also have to agree that the students were on thier senior trip, the last trip before entering the 'real world', so maybe they were right in making thier own decisions.

I agree that no wrong was done.

Arock · 05-15-2003, 04:28 PM

I don't see that any teachers were there with them. That would be an issue. Where were they supposed to be instead of the strip club? The Space Needle?

Sure the school is supposed to be up in arms about it. That's one of the troubles with this country... sex is dirty and terrible.

Good for those kids.

G_Whiz · 05-15-2003, 04:30 PM

Gee, I never got a field trip like that when I was in High School. Maybe the problem is that the Principal is jealous because he missed out.

On a serious note: While they didn't do anything illegal, the school was responsible for them. In a way, they were also "representing" their school. I think that this was bad judgement on the kids part and a poor choice by the teachers/chaperones since they supposedly didn't know where their charges had gone.

krwlz · 05-15-2003, 06:08 PM

i dont see anything worng, as stated before me, if they had been accompnied by a teacher that would have been wrong...or if it was under age, but they were not, so it was not wrong

BBtB · 05-15-2003, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by G_Whiz
I think that this was bad judgement ..... by the teachers/chaperones since they supposedly didn't know where their charges had gone.

Yea and I see where you are going with this... BUT they were all over 18. What were the teachers supposed to do? Make them use the buddy system? I just want to know why they went out and told everyone where they went. I mean at 21 you can legally drink. That dosn't mean you go get drunk then go find your parents to tell them so.

Gertie · 05-15-2003, 11:49 PM

If I'd been on the trip I would have gone to the club too. But it is too bad that it's going to bite the ass of some teachers who were cool enough to give the kids some freedom. The last kid quoted showed some maturity for acknowledging they screwed it up for the teachers. But hell, oh well! A lap dance is a wonderful thing.

Slims · 05-16-2003, 12:35 AM

They turned the kids loose in seattle for a few hour, and some of the kids made use of that temporary freedom by legally visiting a stripclub. What's the problem?

The kids involved in this were all at least 18--read-adults! They are able to make their own decisions, and should be treated accordingly by the school and everyone else.

When we went on our senior fieldtrip to annapolis, about twenty of us went to hooters, and would definately have gone to a strip club, had one been available.

vtgt828 · 07-04-2004, 03:30 AM

Just because they were 18 doesn't mean they were adults. My definition of an adult is someone who is supporting themselves financially...regardless of age.

Peetster · 07-04-2004, 03:53 AM

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All the students were at least 18, so the detour was legal, but Principal Pat Whipple was not amused.

“Please don't squeeze the Charmin,” Whipple told columnist Doug Clark of The Spokesman-Review of Spokane in today’s editions.

What?

Strange Famous · 07-04-2004, 04:19 AM

Well, if they were 18 I dont see that it is much of their parents business if they want to go to a stip club?

User Name · 07-04-2004, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Strange Famous
Well, if they were 18 I dont see that it is much of their parents business if they want to go to a stip club?

I don't think the strip club visit is so much the issue as the fact that it took place as part of a school trip.

Flyguy · 07-04-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by vtgt828
Just because they were 18 doesn't mean they were adults. My definition of an adult is someone who is supporting themselves financially...regardless of age.

I see your point but the law doesn't agree with you. You're an adult at 18. Mabye not mentally, sometimes not even physically, but an adult in the law's eyes.

SinisterMotives · 07-04-2004, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by Strange Famous
Well, if they were 18 I dont see that it is much of their parents business if they want to go to a stip club?

Everything they do when they're living under their parents' roof is the parents' business.

skier · 07-04-2004, 04:24 PM

It was a school trip. In alberta you can legally drink beer at 18. But a school-sanctioned, chaperoned trip would not include getting blasted every night and going to strip clubs after doing the stuff planned on the itinerary.

MSD · 07-04-2004, 07:51 PM

Free time means you do what you want, not what the school is afraid will make them look bad. If free time is part of the trip, the shool should not be faulted and should not be held responsible for anything that happens.

crow_daw · 07-04-2004, 08:56 PM

Well I'm an eighteen year old male from a very small town myself.

I say.........ROCK ON!!!!!

DAMN THE MAN!!!!!

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!!!

and all that jazz, really, its no big deal. Just as others here have said, the teachers didn't accompany them, so hey file it under "Kids Will Be Kids" and be done with it.

Fremen · 07-04-2004, 10:01 PM

Since this is a year old issue, I wonder what, if anything, happened to the teacher that chaperoned, and if this years' class had their trip put on a lot more restrictions as a result.

Blackthorn · 07-05-2004, 03:51 AM

I'm a 100% advocate of nekid women but IMHO I think this was at least in poor taste regardless of the legality assuming that all of those who attended the joint were of legal age to do so. It's a high school day trip for crap's sake. File this one under the "what the fuck was he thinking?" category.

WarriorBuddha · 07-05-2004, 07:03 AM

I can see an arguement from both sides. Yes the kids were of age and had some free time to kill, so they chose to spend it at a strip club, no big deal. But they were also there representing their school, and under the official responsibility of their elders. They probably should have thought about the repercussions upon their chaparones before going in.

H12 · 07-05-2004, 08:07 PM

Bah...no harm was done except a small-town school's name in a different state, and that's considering that the school teachers is to blame, rather than the fact that kids will be kids.

TopRamen66 · 07-05-2004, 10:41 PM

I got fucked up in London for my senior trip. We planned the whole trip because its the only place we could pull off a sanctioned trip, and have the drinking age be 18

scrooloose · 07-07-2004, 07:50 AM

I would have loved that to happen to me when I was in school.

water_boy1999 · 07-07-2004, 08:07 AM

Being 18 means you are adult enough to make responsibly decisions. Although I do not slight the students for going to a strip club, I do think they should have thought about the reprocussions that the school would face.

05-15-2003, 04:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
focalevo Tilted Location: Southern PA	You almost have to view this one of two ways: The 'younger' perspective would probably go something to the extent of, 'wish I had gone on that trip, that would've been cool!' The parents perspective would be to question how the students were allowed to have that much freedom,(could it be, freedom in school?), to have visited a strip club. But you also have to agree that the students were on thier senior trip, the last trip before entering the 'real world', so maybe they were right in making thier own decisions. I agree that no wrong was done. __________________ 'middle finger is the flag that I waive when I am silenced' -Mudvayne

05-15-2003, 04:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Arock Crazy Location: Center Ice	I don't see that any teachers were there with them. That would be an issue. Where were they supposed to be instead of the strip club? The Space Needle? Sure the school is supposed to be up in arms about it. That's one of the troubles with this country... sex is dirty and terrible. Good for those kids. __________________ The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win you're still a rat

05-15-2003, 04:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
G_Whiz Junkie Location: Northern California	Gee, I never got a field trip like that when I was in High School. Maybe the problem is that the Principal is jealous because he missed out. On a serious note: While they didn't do anything illegal, the school was responsible for them. In a way, they were also "representing" their school. I think that this was bad judgement on the kids part and a poor choice by the teachers/chaperones since they supposedly didn't know where their charges had gone. __________________ If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?

05-16-2003, 12:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	They turned the kids loose in seattle for a few hour, and some of the kids made use of that temporary freedom by legally visiting a stripclub. What's the problem? The kids involved in this were all at least 18--read-adults! They are able to make their own decisions, and should be treated accordingly by the school and everyone else. When we went on our senior fieldtrip to annapolis, about twenty of us went to hooters, and would definately have gone to a strip club, had one been available. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

07-04-2004, 04:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Strange Famous follower of the child's crusade?	Well, if they were 18 I dont see that it is much of their parents business if they want to go to a stip club? __________________ "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered." The Gospel of Thomas

05-15-2003, 06:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
krwlz Fledgling Dead Head Location: Clarkson U.	i dont see anything worng, as stated before me, if they had been accompnied by a teacher that would have been wrong...or if it was under age, but they were not, so it was not wrong

05-15-2003, 11:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gertie Psycho	If I'd been on the trip I would have gone to the club too. But it is too bad that it's going to bite the ass of some teachers who were cool enough to give the kids some freedom. The last kid quoted showed some maturity for acknowledging they screwed it up for the teachers. But hell, oh well! A lap dance is a wonderful thing.

07-04-2004, 03:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
vtgt828 Upright	Just because they were 18 doesn't mean they were adults. My definition of an adult is someone who is supporting themselves financially...regardless of age.

07-04-2004, 04:24 PM	#15 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	It was a school trip. In alberta you can legally drink beer at 18. But a school-sanctioned, chaperoned trip would not include getting blasted every night and going to strip clubs after doing the stuff planned on the itinerary. __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

07-04-2004, 07:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Free time means you do what you want, not what the school is afraid will make them look bad. If free time is part of the trip, the shool should not be faulted and should not be held responsible for anything that happens.

07-04-2004, 08:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
crow_daw Idolator Location: Vol Country	Well I'm an eighteen year old male from a very small town myself. I say.........ROCK ON!!!!! DAMN THE MAN!!!!! RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!!!!! and all that jazz, really, its no big deal. Just as others here have said, the teachers didn't accompany them, so hey file it under "Kids Will Be Kids" and be done with it. __________________ "We each have a star, all we have to do is find it. Once you do, everyone who sees it will be blinded." - Earl Simmons

07-04-2004, 10:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	Since this is a year old issue, I wonder what, if anything, happened to the teacher that chaperoned, and if this years' class had their trip put on a lot more restrictions as a result. __________________ Google

07-05-2004, 03:51 AM	#19 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	I'm a 100% advocate of nekid women but IMHO I think this was at least in poor taste regardless of the legality assuming that all of those who attended the joint were of legal age to do so. It's a high school day trip for crap's sake. File this one under the "what the fuck was he thinking?" category. __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

07-05-2004, 07:03 AM	#20 (permalink)
WarriorBuddha Crazy Location: Japan	I can see an arguement from both sides. Yes the kids were of age and had some free time to kill, so they chose to spend it at a strip club, no big deal. But they were also there representing their school, and under the official responsibility of their elders. They probably should have thought about the repercussions upon their chaparones before going in. __________________ Thockmorton knew if he were ever to break wind in the echo chamber, he would never hear the end of it.

07-05-2004, 08:07 PM	#21 (permalink)
H12 I'm not about getting creamed, I'm about winning! Location: K-Town, TN	Bah...no harm was done except a small-town school's name in a different state, and that's considering that the school teachers is to blame, rather than the fact that kids will be kids. __________________ "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act, but a habit." --Aristotle

07-05-2004, 10:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
TopRamen66 Insane	I got fucked up in London for my senior trip. We planned the whole trip because its the only place we could pull off a sanctioned trip, and have the drinking age be 18

07-07-2004, 07:50 AM	#23 (permalink)
scrooloose Tilted Location: NY	I would have loved that to happen to me when I was in school.

07-07-2004, 08:07 AM	#24 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	Being 18 means you are adult enough to make responsibly decisions. Although I do not slight the students for going to a strip club, I do think they should have thought about the reprocussions that the school would face. __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson