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Jailed British rapist wins $17M in lottery

Last Updated Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:28:19 EDT

http://sympatico.msn.cbc.ca/story/wo...ist040812.html

LONDON - A jailed rapist's lottery windfall has the British government looking for ways to keep felons from reaping such rewards while behind bars.

Iorworth Hoare, who is serving a life term for the most recent of a series of attacks on women, won the equivalent of about $17 million in Britain's national lottery.

British Home Secretary David Blunkett said on Thursday that proposed legislation would require convicts in Hoare's situation, or who are otherwise wealthy, to contribute to a compensation fund for victims of crime.

Hoare has been in prison since 1989 for trying to rape a 60-year-old woman in a park. He had served a series of jail terms beginning in 1973 for a number of sex attacks.

The 51-year-old had been considered a low-security detainee, and was on day release from his low-security prison when he won the lottery.

Now that he has money, authorities have moved him to a high-security prison and refused him leave. Prison officials said it was for his safety.

The rapist's good fortune has angered many, and raises the possibility that his victims could sue him for a piece of his prize.

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This is something. Next thing you know Mike Wallace will be arrested for disorderly conduct.

Should his victim's have the right to sue for damages? Should he receive any of the monies? And if he is liable for such compensations, how much should he pay?

Who gets what and why?

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Stompy

He's already doing time: that's his punishment. The trial at that point is done and over.

Let him keep the money.

People immediately think, "Oh, he just won 12 million and I'm entitled to that!" Says who? Why exactly are you entitled to it at this point?

People are just pissed because they didn't win :P

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kurty[B]

What's he going to do with the money serving a life sentence in a maximum security prison?

I figure if part of his sentence was that a percentage of his income go to the victims of his crime, then sure, but this is simply a stroke of luck. If he decides to piss it away, shouldn't that be his decision to make?

miggity99

I hate rapists, almost more than any other kind of criminal.

I think all the money should be given to his victims. He's not going to need it in prison, and it's the least that they could get for what he did to them.

No mercy for the rich rapist.

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Manic_Skafe

The idea that he isn't entitled to have the money that he won is rediculous - he bought the ticket, picked the numbers, and won the lottery. The money rightfully belongs to him.

Rapist or not, it's his money.

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Strange Famous

His ex wife is apparently threatening to sue him for half of it and give it to the victims (well, she SAYS she will)...

To be honest, I cant see that the victims themselves can sue him, he has already been punished (or is being punished) and what compensation there is for these things they would have had...

I'm sure, in terms of karma, he doesnt deserve it, but I cant see what anyone can or is entitled to do about it.

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kulrblind

Why should you, or anyone else care? Maybe he'll give it to charity when he dies. Maybe he'll will it to the prison to spruce up the place? Maybe he'll buy something frilly for his prison-mate.

Rekna

I could see the victims suing in a civil trial for some money but the ex-wife has no case at all. She won't/shouldn't get a dime.

CSflim

I don't see how anyone could actually justify the claim that his money which he won fair and square should be taken away from him.

Yes, I accept that he is probably a piece of shit and doesn't "deserve" it. But the lottery isn't about handing out money to those that, in your opinion, deserve it.

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Rekna

If the rape victims have not yet filed a civil suit (which is probably because it would be pointless if he didn't have the money) then they still have a right to file for civil dammages. Just like the girl claiming Kobe raped him can file a civil suit (even if she looses the criminal suit). Many times civil suits aren't filed because they take up lots of money in lawyer fees and you need to be getting that money back. It is pointless to sue a guy for a million dollars who only has a thousand.

hannukah harry

^^^ but is there a statute of limitations that might have been passed? the crime was committed 15 years ago.

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Xell101

Heh heh, the victims got something to sue for now. As for the "Should he get it?" concerns, he won it, it's his.

Rekna

Yes and that is for the judge to decide. But i can see where a case can be made to allow a civil complaint.

Also civil trials are a lot less stingent then criminal trails and the statue of limitations may be a lot larger than in a criminal case.

Journeyman

In terms of what he's going to spend it on in prison: A) Lawyer, for appeals or just representation for any of his needs, B) Cigarettes, heh, and C) Remember, people get paroled. A 75-year old inmate looks forward to getting out a lot more with 17 million waiting for him on the outside.

As far as anyone else getting money from him, legally, no. They didn't see it coming, too late to whine now. Morally though, yeah, any sort of windfall that convicts come into whilst in jail ought to be kicked to victims compensation funds. So the moral foundation leads to legal suggestions. The problem lies in people that are found to be factually innocent after the fact: Who's going to pay an innocent convict back?

Also, just because the odds of winning the lotto are bupkis doesn't mean legislating these matters ought to be put off: There's also inheritances of a dead relatives estate.

Rekna

Did a little googleing and found that in ohio the statue of limitations is around 20 years. I'm not sure what it is in london but there is definatly a chance they could have a case.


http://www.helpandhealing.org/Civil%20Suit.htm

Foozboote

Stompy you must be a wiseman !

Holo

As much as rape is the second worst shitty thing you can do to a human, he did win the money fair and square. Unless he permanently injured someone physically they shouldn't sue just to strike back at him. I can't claim to know how rape feels but cashing in doesn't make you a better person or give you closure, it just makes you richer than you were before if you win. And his wife is a paper crusader. After she gives away the money she wins she'll go hunting for the real killer of Nicole Brown Simpson.

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troit

They think that they are entitled to his $1 to play the lottery but when he wins they want to keep his money. What a crock of shit!

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Rekna

Anyone wonder how a rapist in prison legally buys a lottery ticket? He was on day release for some reason but wouldn't a release like that have certian rules?

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Frenchie

Why would they allow him to leave for the day... oh yeah lets let a convicted rapist to stroll around town for the day to site see. That's a good idea!!!

But that entertained me

Ryan

Well he is a rapist and a terrible person, and desrves to be in jail. However, the money should be his and thats the end of it. Hows he going to spend the money in a maximum security prison anyway... As far as peopel now wanting to sue him, thats just BS and shows just how greedy people are.

oldtimer

I think it should be stipulated in the law [everyone's law; including America's if not already done so] that felons should not be able to participate/reap any rewards or prizes from gambling/game shows seeing as they've lost their privilege and right to such a *luxury; *presuming they win.

That's right - No Publisher's Clearing House, No Who Wants to be a Millionaire?, and sure as hell No Scratch Off tickets! Basically, all forms of gambling and game shows who deal out money in prizes or great items worth a lot of money are not eligible to felons [this would have been broken down of course in case of a lesser crime but the obvious crimes such as robbery, murder, rape, kidnapping, espionage, etc. We're talking big time crimes here!]

I sure as hell don't want to see a rapist walk away with a ferrari.

All in all I think the money should go to school costs, charity or some type of donation.

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smooth

I don't want to see anyone walk away with a Ferrarri. I think that terminally ill people shouldn't be allowed to play, either. I mean, what are they going to do with it?

People spend their money how they want, felons or not. Some people are making some pretty clear moral judgements on this guy. Just to point out, though, that if you believe in a deity you might want to consider that such a deity could have prevented this person from winning. Seems karma, fate, deity knows something you people don't since he couldn't have won it otherwise...

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Diamond

What gives? Weekend breaks from prison?? I barely get a weekend off work and I never raped anyone!! Much less winning the lottery, thats just a kick in the jimmies for me. It should go to the victims, they'll pay forever.