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Old 07-14-2004, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A question for those who have tried ecstasy

Before I ask the question though, could anyone who's anti-drugs please refrain from posting in this thread? Cheers.

Okay, I might be trying e soon, and I've been reading up on the effects. One of the effects concerns me, and that's the reduction of one's inhibitions. My question is, will I be able to refrain from saying anything I may regret later? I'm not concerned about anything in particular, I just know there are probably a lot of things I could say that would fuck things up for me after the experience, and I want to make sure that when I'm on e, I'll be able to recognise these things and prevent myself from saying them. Should I be concerned about this? If anyone can provide me with advice on the matter, first hand experience etc, I'd be really grateful.
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Old 07-14-2004, 09:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, but now that I've read this, I cannot morally press the back button without posting this.

Ecstasy, X, Extaz, whatever you want call it, kills you. Lowering your inhibitions is the least of your worries. Extasy causes Panic Attacks, REALLY bad headaches, addiction, among other highly unpleasant things.

But if you must, I suggest you drink at least 500 ml of water EVERY hour of your trip to keep your body temp down, since E raises it a noticable degree.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Aight I'll tell ya what, from experience.

You inhibitions are not so lowered that you will say every single thing that pops into your head. You can control yourself, I'm sure you'll say somethings that the next day you'll be like... wtf thats the strangest thing I've ever heard.

If your thinking your going to insult someone or get into a fight coz of insulting someone, or telling someone to fuck off and die in fire. That probably wont happen also. The trip your gonna get is gonna be somewhat like your love everybody, nobody is a bad person they all are niiiiice

NOTE: DO NOT, DO NOT, DO FUCKING NOT. Do Any other illegal drugs, NONE. I don't even drink while I'm tripping on E.

Somethings that you might get paranoid about, Your arms may feel stiff, some people I know have this some dont, Myself, I find myself constantly with my teeth clenched, I try to stop but its something I dealt with. Your temperature will go up, drink alot of water, 5-6 bottles of water, most of the time when someone gets to the hospital from E, its dehydration. One of my buddies shakes alot, he can't hold his hands or feet perfectly steady, its not a massive shake but its more than normal.

Your Vision will probably get blurred, all of my buddies did including myself.

Panic Attacks: Every drug will do this, when you feel that something is wrong, ask a buddy be like "Hey man, you feeling such and such?" They'll let ya know they are and its normal. Your heart is not going to blow out your chest, and yes... you are still breathing.

I've never gotten a headache from X, ever. Maybe this is something each person may feel differently. The next day you'll probably feel out of it, much like a hangover but you won't be sick to your stomach. It'll be the whole, I'm outside of myself watching myself do everything.

No matter what anyone tells you, every single thing in the entire world, is addicting. Eatting peanuts? Addicting. Eatting Bananas? Addicting. Eatting steaming piles of shit? Addicting for someone I'm sure.



As for your body physically needing it? Do it once if you so wish, you won't be addicted to it from one time. Physically. If you have the willpower of a fat women in a chocalate house. You'll probably be addicted.


Closing my little documentary into Ex, The important thing is to have a good time while your on it. Don't think too much, just have a good time, you may or may not regret it. But hell, theres only one way to find out.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you're keeping hydrated, make sure you don't drink too much water. It is possible to dilute your blood to the point that it can no longer effectively deliver oxygen to your brain, and you can die. There are several documented cases of this happening, although not nearly as many as dehydration deaths.

I have no personal experience, so I can't answer your question, but I felt I should give you this information without passing judgement or telling you what to do. If you're going to do it, take as many precautions as possible.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Most importantly, do it around people who you know will take care of you. No drug effects 2 people in the same ways so you'll need SOBER and SAFE people to watch out for you.

It's a fun experience but make sure it's well planned out and as safe as possible.
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Old 07-14-2004, 10:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Your logical thinking stays pretty much intact, so if you're worried that, say, you're going to go up to a police officer and tell him you've got this big stash of E on you, then no, you probably won't do that. But if it's something like a personal secret that you're more embarrassed to talk about than anything, you might tell someone because it will seem like no big deal. It's like alcohol in that it does definitely take away your inhibitions, but it's unlike alcohol in that you can still think logically and you won't wake up the next day wondering what the hell happened the night before and how you ended up in this hotel room with your pants and wallet gone. And it's a lot safer to drive on E than alcohol, but I wouldn't recommend it anyway. You're less likely to say something you'll regret later than something you should have said anyway but were too worried about what would happen if you did. Side effects and risks: both sides of the debate are partially right, you have to decide what they're right about and what risk you're willing to take.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I read through my post and I noticed that I only really gave the negative points about the experience.

so..

When it first hits you its gonna be a ton of bricks, a major rush, unlike any of the smaller drugs like weed, shrooms whatever. Then your slowly gonna come down from the rush and be nice and calm. Not so calm that you wanna sleep, coz you won't be able to anyway but just a good calm. Colors are gonna be brighter, your gonna see things that you've never seen before, or perhaps you did but now you see them alot differently.

If you have girls around that are also gonna be tripping its a good idea to hook up with one, not sexually, (well unless you want to i guess) It's sooooo nice to have someone that you can touch, rub her arms, her back, neck. Whatever, she will touch you back and it'll feel amazing, it'll be warm and.. well.. hard to explain really, but its in fact amazing.

On to Sex while on E. Some people say once you've had sex on E, you'll lose all drive to have sex unless you on it. Some of my friends tell me it like having an orgasm..... times ten..... on your entire body... inside and out. I don't know I've never had sex while on it, and I dont do it anymore so maybe someone else will be able to let you know about that.

Everyone on this thread is giving valueable information, its in your best interest to read up about precautions. Having sober people you trust near you at all times.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Make sure you get some vicks vapor rub or a vicks inhaler - the inhaler would be a lot less messy. Under the influence the smells..it's just impossible to explain - you've gotta experience it. Make sure you get some straws to chew on as well. Get some body oils and get/ give a massage. The senses are intensified and you'll feel things in ways you'd never imagined.

Are you doing single, double, or triple stacked E? I've seen people trip for 24hrs on triple stacked ecstascy. Since it's your first time I think it'd be best you stay away from the double and triple stacked E.

And I can't stress enough how important it is to make sure you experience is planned out and is as safe as possible.
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Old 07-14-2004, 11:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Make sure you have a lollipop, something like a Chuppa-Chup in your mouth while you're pinging. That will save you from chewing the side of your mouth to bits and clenching/grinding your teeth. Also, drink water and don't worry, your inhibitions will not be lowered enough to get you in any sort of negative situation through something that you've done or said. Alcohol is much worse is that department. Have fun!
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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But if you must, I suggest you drink at least 500 ml of water EVERY hour of your trip to keep your body temp down, since E raises it a noticable degree.
i know stated already but you can drink too much water and thats just as bad as too little.
i dont know what sites or whatever you looked at but
www.erowid.com is an excellent source of info. and btw all drugs reduce inhibitions its what makes alcohol so great when youve had a long night
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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most of this has already been said above ... but to summarize

1 don't drink alcohol because it spoils it
2 you may be sick the first time you do E
3 maybe do a half the first time?
4 lots of water but not too much (but the only girl I read about who died from drinking water drank ~10 litres in 2 hours)
5 comedown can be rough ... like a bad bad hangover + depression ... be aware
6 have some chewing gum ready
7 do it with people you know, and who know about E
8 chill out have fun!

if you want to experience the rush without committing to the full trip, you can crush up a pill and snort a line of it - this stings like fuck and isn't generally recommended but it's ok once in a while

it will lower your inhibitions, you will probably start hugging all your mates and telling them what fantastic people they are and that you love them ... it's much more a love-oriented than a sex-oriented thing

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Old 07-15-2004, 12:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Not to add, the guys (n girls ?) above have pretty much covered it, only advice I can think to give that hasn't already been given is don't buy it from some corner dealer, know the source and preferably know someone who has had the same E . . . all sorts of shit end up in E . . horse tranquilisers etc . .

Enjoy the ride . . . .
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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all sorts of shit end up in E . . horse tranquilisers etc . .

Enjoy the ride . . . .
There's rarely more than 20% MDMA in a pill. You're right, usually there's a mix of caffeine and special k and other assorted stimulants in there as well.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: A question for those who have tried ecstasy

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Before I ask the question though, could anyone who's anti-drugs please refrain from posting in this thread? Cheers.

Okay, I might be trying e soon, and I've been reading up on the effects. One of the effects concerns me, and that's the reduction of one's inhibitions. My question is, will I be able to refrain from saying anything I may regret later? I'm not concerned about anything in particular, I just know there are probably a lot of things I could say that would fuck things up for me after the experience, and I want to make sure that when I'm on e, I'll be able to recognise these things and prevent myself from saying them. Should I be concerned about this? If anyone can provide me with advice on the matter, first hand experience etc, I'd be really grateful.
Right, lets get to work shall we. As a former addict (and that i mean in a sense of i've only kicked it a month or two back), i in no way condone the use of E, but if your gona do it, you might as well do it properly, no use fucking around.

E will lower your inhibitions, it will make you more talkative and generally more sociable. You will find yourself with a greater repsect, admiration and love for those around you.
Saying that, you will know exactly what your saying, and you can stop it, much in the same way as when you are slightly pissed.

On smaller amounts, you'll just feel slightly 'kooky', and will be able to control what you do with ease, but i still would recommend having a friend who knows your on E around to look after you.

My main advice is not to drink alcohol. When on E you can drink bottles down (i myself have finished two at a party) with ease, but the alcohol is still there, and you will get drunk. By all means have a few drinks, just be careful.
As for smoking, it depends where you are. If your in a safe enviroment such as your friends party, or in your own home e.t.c, then i say smoke a bit of cannabis, it will calm you down slightly, and give you mild hullicinations (nothing major, just the odd little smiley face on a tree type things). If your at a pub or out and about, don't smoke.

HAVE A PACK OF GUM ON YOU! it is imperative while on E to have gum, your jaw will constantly be going, and you will need something to chew on, or your mouth will be fucked up the next day.

After your night, get a good sleep, get up and have a shower, and get some sugar into you. E will normally give you roughly the opposite reaction of your trip the next day, so you'll feel slightly sluggish and depressed, but nothing more than you'd normally find with a hangover.

Drink plenty of water while your on E, but you have to remember to piss it back out. Go to the toilet regulary and empty the ol' hose. Don't worry if you can't piss, don't force it, just come back in a few minutes and try again.
Take roughly one pint of non-alcoholic beverage (preferably water) an hour as a rule of thumb.

The pills themselves, as said before, will rarely have more than 20-50% MDMA (the active ingredient) in them, but the rest of the pill will be made with ORALLY INERT filler. you don't sell pills when you kill your market. Some pills do have other chemicals in, such as ketamine and amphetamines, but these are normally placed in amounts that have been designed to enhance your trip, not break it.
ALWAYS buy from a source you know and trust, so that you will get proper E, instead of knocked off medications or other things.



Give me a PM if you have any questions, i'm more than happy to help out someone on their first trip, so they don't mess up like i did.
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Old 07-15-2004, 03:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I tried it one time. I did a double...but only because I was never told it would take awhile to take affect. I took half of the double and an hour later didnt feel anything yet..so I figured I'd take the other half....BIG BIG BIG mistake. When they both hit me it was like being hit by a tractor trailer and then I didnt sleep for over 24 hours...when I finally did get to sleep it took me 2 days, if I remember right, to completely recover from it.

I didnt like what it did to me at all.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I tried it one time. I did a double...but only because I was never told it would take awhile to take affect. I took half of the double and an hour later didnt feel anything yet..so I figured I'd take the other half....BIG BIG BIG mistake. When they both hit me it was like being hit by a tractor trailer and then I didnt sleep for over 24 hours...when I finally did get to sleep it took me 2 days, if I remember right, to completely recover from it.

I didnt like what it did to me at all.
Thats a point i missed. It can take upwards of an hour or two for a pill to kick in, so don't make the mistake of taking one, then taking another later. Give yourself 3 hours after you take you first one before deciding about taking another, by then the effects should be fully underway.

Double, triple and quadruple drops are ONLY for those who know what they're doing.
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Old 07-15-2004, 05:52 AM   #17 (permalink)
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all i have to say is...

have fun.

and watch out for the comedown. it sucks.
try having some weed handy for the next morning or whatever, or whack yourself out so you sleep through most of it.

oh yeah, and the quality of the pill is paramount. if its shit, you probably won't be experiencing any of the good things people are talking about here... if its good, its just going to blow you away.
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Old 07-15-2004, 06:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I did E a few times about 5 years ago - I've not done it or really anything else since except beer.

To be honest, I quite loved it, I thought it was an freaking awesome experience.

I will agree with what just about everyone is saying regarding the experiences you will feel and the precautions you should take. The biggest being stay hydrated and have a good freind with you who knows what you are experiencing, because when the rush hits it is an almost overwhelming feeling because you don't know what is going on, but with a freind he can talk you through it and calm your nerves and then its pure euphoria. I used to do it back in the rave days listening to heavy trance music - it was awesome.

We used to drink beer with E, and we found it would enhance the feeling a bit - but don't overdo it. We would let a pint last for an hour or more. We would also drink water inbetween.

About sex on E - I couldnt get it up, and was just content to hug, hold, stroke, massage, etc. That was great.

In closing. Be careful - buy from a REPUTABLE source. I once had stuff that was mixxed with speed and it was the most horrid experience - as shani said I was up for 2 days and couldnt sleep. I hated every minute of it.

Also, my biggest tip - eat them with skittles - the super strong fruit flavour will hide the vile taste of the E - we always chewed ours and didnt swallow.

We started with 1 and then took 1/2's to maintain after the initial was passed (about 2 hours)
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Old 07-15-2004, 06:39 AM   #19 (permalink)
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There is alot of good advice in here. My main advice is to make absolutely sure you have good friends who will take care of you around. It makes it alot better trust me. Plus, when you do drop, don't sit around and wait for it to "kick in". Just relax and do what you normally do and before you know it you'll be smiling from ear to ear and your trip has begun. A pack of gum is a must. Just trust me on this. Again I can't stress enough being around friends and good people who know what E does and how to make you feel the best.

If you really want to get an idea of what it's like, rent or buy the movie Human Traffic. It describes it better than anything I've ever heard before..plus it shows the comedowns and such. I never got depressed the next day but most people do. I usually used K with mine but I don't suggest it. Also, like before mentioned..stick to a single stack the first time..and don't do "Molly"(pure mdma) it's a harder kick..it makes me throw up and I'm used to the stuff.. so yeah a single stack will do you plenty..trust me. Drink plenty of water when you feel too hot and most of all have fun and BE CAREFUL!! Good luck!
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One thing, though, is you get extremely affectionate towards people... and there won't be much stopping you from calling up an old girlfriend and rambling about your love to her for a couple of hours. So, go with the trip of course, but try to keep your head about you, and think of the morning after.

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Old 07-15-2004, 07:17 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Your fears are warrented. The first time I tried it I asked some guy if I could have permission to beat off over his girlfriend that night. And then I told my girlfriend at the time. She understandably replied "What about me?" to which I regrettably said "But its your face Im hitting". In conclusion its a fun ride but you cant really stop yourself from verballising your thoughts.
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:33 AM   #22 (permalink)
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damn... last year I was really wanting to try E... I thought that I was over it but now I am wanting to try it again.

good thing I dont know anyone who could get it.

interesting read, thnx for all the info.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Wow, thanks for the advice everyone. If I do take it, I'll certainly only take one, if only because I don't really have the cash to buy more . I'm still split down the middle as to whether I'll take it though...it sounds like although I may theoretically be able to prevent myself from saying things I might potentially regret, it's not likely that I'll have the willpower to refrain from doing so. And as for hydration, if I take it, it probably won't be while going clubbing or anything, so I should be fine in that regard, as long as I remember to drink something every now and then. But yeah, once again thanks for the thoughtful replies.

And stevie, cheers for that, if I have any more questions I'll be sure to pm you.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:15 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I've done this way too many times... damn fun.

E reduces your inhibitions, but not too badly... it can be like you're in a great mood and nothing can phase you... or you may decide to tell people what you have been scared to tell them before... that you love them or think they're great or have been keeping some secret from them... etc. And you might go a little more overboard on those feelings than you otherwise would. But it's hardly like you're out of control.

When you walk into a room, it's a friendly and familiar place... like it was the house you grew up in (even if you've never been there before)... and you feel very secure. You might dance even if you're not a 'dancer' usually, because it will feel good and you won't care what ppl around you think. Imagine the feeling like you just won the lottery... millions of dollars, you're set for life and can do all those things that you always wanted to do! That's what E feels like, all those day to day things that usually bother you are insignificant-- you laugh them off easily and get back to having fun.

Side effects:
Panic attacks... they happen, but always do E with friends and so you have someone to turn to... they will reassure you that you are loved and it will be all good again. A hug from a pretty girl will do WONDERS!

Headaches... never had them

Sickness... once, but I spent a fair bit of time riding a carnival ride with my head between my legs because it felt cool Then suddenly got sick. I think it was a fair bit of motion sickness, but other people do sometimes puke a bit when they take E. Bring and eat Rolaids or Tums to help prevent getting sick, and to make you feel better afterwards if you do get sick. Also, when you start to come down, taking antacids will bring you back up for a bit!

Memory loss... many ppl say you remember everything, but I have definitely had memory loss... not as complete or bad as alcohol, but I've forgotten conversations I've had with ppl I just met while I was rushing really hard.

High body temp... You won't feel the heat as much in a hot place, so stop dancing and cool yourself off every now and then. I've seen ppl on E wearing sweaters outside on a scorching hot summer day because they couldn't feel the heat. This effect is worsened if the E is cut with DXM (yeah like from cough syrup).

Dehydration... ties in with the above... drink plenty of water, but Gatorade is better. The 'dying from too much water' requires you to drink EXTREMELY large amounts of water, so it's unlikely, but what that does is dillutes the salt content of your body and that's bad for you... so Gatorade replenishes those salts.

Addiction... MDMA is not physically addictive, so your body won't NEED it like it does a cigarette or crack or something. But it's so much fun that it is *very easy* to form a psychological DEPENDENCE on it, which is almost the equivalent. You like it so much that you want to do it all the time. So the effect is almost the same... you do it alot... but it makes quitting easier.

Awake for days... A dose of pure E really only lasts about 6-8 hours... so If you're awake an absurd amount of time it's been cut with amphetamines or something.

Come down... The next day can kind of suck, have some pot to smoke to be able to chill out. You might not be too bad the next day after your first few times... eventually it gets worse as you continue taking it... until now it takes me almost a week to recover and start feeling good afterwards... which is why I quit.

Taking other drugs... I like to have maybe 2 beers on E, but no more... otherwise you get drunk which is not as much fun, but 2 is nice. Same for pot, have 1 or 2 small puffs, but DO NOT get stoned... E is WAY better and getting stoned will overpower and kill your E and that's just a waste. If you've got a pretty pure pill, then you might want to take caffeine or some other stimulant with it so you have the energy to play... I like to dance. So the general rule is only take tiny amounts of other drugs with E. A bit of acid or shrooms is fun, don't take a full hit/dose though (although that's a personal preference). Interesting side note on taking acid with E... I don't get as depressed afterwards... but maybe it's because my mind can't focus enough to get depressed.

Purity... taste your E when you get it... E has a distinct taste and with some practice you can tell how strong a pill is by tasting it (or if there's ANY E in there). It's a skill you can develop over time.

Stuff to have... Gum, candy (tastes 10x better on E), Rolaids, a bit of pot, caffeine pills or ephedrine if you need energy, Gatorade, possibly lip balm if you're a lip biter (you'll find out)

The most important thing is your environment!!! Do it with friends you like and do your drugs all at the same time with them. Have pretty girls around who are comfortable enough to hug you and your night will be amazing. I've been at a party, feeling kind of uneasy and panicy and hardly high... and one big E hug from this gorgeous girl I used to hang with and I was FLYING! Who you're with and what you're doing will make all the difference.

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or you may decide to tell people what you have been scared to tell them before... that you love them or think they're great or have been keeping some secret from them... etc. And you might go a little more overboard on those feelings than you otherwise would. But it's hardly like you're out of control.
But this is a big concern for me. Saying something along those lines may have repurcussions socially, and even if only minor, it's something I'd rather not deal with...which I guess is my dilemma.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:45 AM   #26 (permalink)
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If you have any concerns, get a mate to go around with you for the night and make sure you don't do anything stupid.

Crispnchuey, E is a huge stimulant as it is, he in no way will need any more in his system, doing so would probably just send him haywire.

As for getting stoned, it depends on his choice, if he wants to hullicinate (which is fun, because your so damned happy) then he should smoke some gear, if he wants to party, then don't smoke any.

Acid and E, damned great choice though
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:00 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I did E once can't really remember that night but I didn't end up at the Hospital so that must be a good thing, My GF tells me it works great when your both on it and doing it.....you just keep going and going!

But I'm more of a Weed and Beer guy!

EDIT: also if you got some hardcore feeling for a girl that your going to be with that night your better off to tell her how you feel before the drugs...I just think it would be better coming from you sober, plus you will also remember it
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Old 07-15-2004, 10:00 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Heh, I guess I like going haywire! But if you're not going clubbing that's definitely a bit much.

If you've got some specific issues that you're trying to avoid... like telling that girl you're in love with your true feelings... that will be tough... Stevie's suggestion of having a mate around is really good... tell him something like "Make sure you don't let me tell Susie that I'm in love with her!" and make him swear to it, because later you may try and persuade him to let you talk to her about it.

It's not like you'll be so messed up that you say things you don't intend, rather it's like you're suddenly in the mood to say the things that you've been holding back.

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Old 07-15-2004, 10:32 AM   #29 (permalink)
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My GF tells me it works great when your both on it and doing it.....you just keep going and going!
I'd like to point that out to people, E prevents erections at all levels (though to different degrees, if you just do one, you need to think about it as opposed to just finding out its there). It also delays ejaculation, meaning that if you do get it up, you keep on going and going and going, like a duracell.


Now, the fun comes from when you manage to get your hands on a single viagra, and do a rather large amount of E. Not to boast, but i've never heard female make noises like she did that night, damned fun for everyone involed


Edit: my apologies for going on and on about E, but i just have so many good memories, and everytime i read something new, i remember, say, an entire night that i'd otherwise forgotten/not remembered in the first place.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:08 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I'd like to point that out to people, E prevents erections at all levels (though to different degrees, if you just do one, you need to think about it as opposed to just finding out its there). It also delays ejaculation, meaning that if you do get it up, you keep on going and going and going, like a duracell.


Now, the fun comes from when you manage to get your hands on a single viagra, and do a rather large amount of E. Not to boast, but i've never heard female make noises like she did that night, damned fun for everyone involed


Edit: my apologies for going on and on about E, but i just have so many good memories, and everytime i read something new, i remember, say, an entire night that i'd otherwise forgotten/not remembered in the first place.
Humm I can still get it up.....maybe I didn't take enough!
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:11 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Humm I can still get it up.....maybe I didn't take enough!
Well, maybe prevent was the best word, makes it difficult at times is probably a better analagy.
You can get it up at pretty much any level of fucked-ness, but it just requires a good think and a naked lady.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:20 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: A question for those who have tried ecstasy

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Before I ask the question though, could anyone who's anti-drugs please refrain from posting in this thread? Cheers.

Okay, I might be trying e soon, and I've been reading up on the effects. One of the effects concerns me, and that's the reduction of one's inhibitions. My question is, will I be able to refrain from saying anything I may regret later? I'm not concerned about anything in particular, I just know there are probably a lot of things I could say that would fuck things up for me after the experience, and I want to make sure that when I'm on e, I'll be able to recognise these things and prevent myself from saying them. Should I be concerned about this? If anyone can provide me with advice on the matter, first hand experience etc, I'd be really grateful.
First off, how do you know what you are getting is real ? I'll tell you how, you don't know unless you test it yourself. The chances of you getting some bathtub crank/opiate cocktail are highly likely.

Pure MDMA has been illegal since 1986 in this country. Anyone who says their shit is from Amsterdam is probably lying. I used to take it a lot back when it was legal, when they sold it in the bars and called them 'wafers" and "tabs" and yes, real MDMA will make you say or do things you might regret, but so will alcohol.

If you want to take the risk of putting some shit cocktail in your system, not having any idea the quality of it, or what's in it for that matter, for a cheap (not so actually, at 20 bucks a pop) thrill, then that is your decision. Many people have had bad repercussions, and even death. Always your decision though.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:26 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Well, maybe prevent was the best word, makes it difficult at times is probably a better analagy.
You can get it up at pretty much any level of fucked-ness, but it just requires a good think and a naked lady.

Ya I think the naked lady did it for me
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:33 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I tried it one time. I did a double...but only because I was never told it would take awhile to take affect. I took half of the double and an hour later didnt feel anything yet..so I figured I'd take the other half....BIG BIG BIG mistake. When they both hit me it was like being hit by a tractor trailer and then I didnt sleep for over 24 hours...when I finally did get to sleep it took me 2 days, if I remember right, to completely recover from it.

I didnt like what it did to me at all.
Probably because what you got was a crank/opiate mixture of shit.

Seriously, everything said in this thread reminds me of nothing I ever experienced on real MDMA.

MDMA makes you fall in love with everything intensely. It doesn't hit you like a ton of bricks in a bad way, it's wonderful, magical, and used to be called “peaking.” You'd peak hard for about 2 to 4 hours, (depending on your body fat or how much you took) but then you'd have another good 4-6 hours of "ecstasy" -- just like the name implies. Nothing bad, it's like living in poetry.

I would place money that most of the people posting in this thread have never done the real thing.

Which brings me back to:

Have fun with your cocktail of bathtub shite!
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:54 AM   #35 (permalink)
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First off, how do you know what you are getting is real ? I'll tell you how, you don't know unless you test it yourself. The chances of you getting some bathtub crank/opiate cocktail are highly likely.

If you want to take the risk of putting some shit cocktail in your system, not having any idea the quality of it, or what's in it for that matter, for a cheap (not so actually, at 20 bucks a pop) thrill, then that is your decision. Many people have had bad repercussions, and even death. Always your decision though.
No, the chances of getting crack or opiates in E is very very slim. It just isn't cost effective to lace a product that sells cheaply with items that arn't cheap. Pills are made in their hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions. A dealer two layers above street (not the street dealer, nor the dealer above him, but the one above him) can have 20,000 pills to shift a week, and they still arn't anywhere near the producers.
Pill manufacturers are running a business, they're not going to add other illegial drugs to your product if they can avoid it because it's expensive, and half the time people won't notice.
Yes, sometimes pills do contain other drugs, but they arn't 'laced', the drugs have been put in in quanities that will enhance the buzz. As i said before, you won't sell pills if you kill or make ill your market.
The stuff that makes up the pill is orally inert, yes, it's probably not the best stuff in the world, but it won't do you more damage than the MDMA. If you chose to snort, smoke or IV your E then thats another matter, and you get whats coming to you.

Pure MDMA is a completly different ball game, like you said pinkie, it affects you in a completly different way to pills, i prefer it myself, but it's just damned hard to get a hold of.
MDMA will affect you a hell of a lot differently than pills because your taking more of it, in a more concentrated form. Pure MDMA is beutiful.


Yes, there is a lot of shit being passed off for E, but as long as you buy from a reputable dealer, then 99.9999999999% of the time you'll be fine.
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Okay I've never personally done it but a lot of my friends have and they all said that gum does NOT work. They say it makes you clench your teeth more than chew really and gum isn't solid enough so it doesnt help you with the clenching. You should really get some hard lollipops (that wont break when you bite on them), straws...or something like that.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE PREPARED.
My friend started rolling once without anything to bite on and she ended up biting on a park bench. She left marks. Not fun.


And I'm not trying to sound anti drug but if you have problems with depression, this might not be the drug for you. It's amazing while you're on it but because it's so amazing, everything just seems that much worse afterwards. Not to mention the horrible comedown. You'll be depressed for days after.

And despite what some other people said about it not being addicting....90% of the people I've met who've tried E were addicted to an extent for some time afterwards.
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Old 07-15-2004, 12:03 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I've done a lot of drugs, and this is one I try to stay away from.

Why? Because most of the time its mixed with LSD (which I highly enjoy)...but with other stuff too...stimulants and stuff.

I'm big into the psychedelics, but the stimulants I steer clear of. J

Be careful, drink water, I've heard if you get a good dose, its amazing.

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Old 07-15-2004, 12:04 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I see you have received many replies already, many of them true and helpful.
I have done it before, more than I wish I did, but not enough to toast my brain.
This is the la-la drug, I call it, because you act as if you are in la-la land. everything is grand, wonderful, perfect, everyone around you is beautiful. You may feel a sense of oneness and at peace, it's quite the "unnatural" spiritual feeling. It heightened my awareness of the meaning PLUR (you may know what that means if you've been in the party/dance scene)- but it makes all sense when you are on it that all there is is peace, Love, Unity, and Respect- usually that's what people feel when they are on it.
Of course, this drug has adverse side-effects, unlike other drugs, you don't crash coming down, you just can't go to sleep for a long time- about 24 hours, depending on how potent it is. And be aware of so many replicas or laced tabs. There are sites out there that can explain what the different sorts are and what to look for.
Once is okay to try, but it can sure fry your brain after a while- known too many people who have gone almost comatose, they are almost zombies even off the drug. I don't recommend it, but I don't condemn it- just be aware.
So, if you haven't yet, be ready for plenty of fuzzy feelings, touchy-feely impulses, and a perma-smile. You feel very euphoric and all depending on how you react to it, you may talk a lot or may not talk much at all. You may feel like just taking in the whole experience from the sidelines. You are pretty aware of your surrounding, although all might seem "trippy" and out of focus, you have heightened awareness, and sometimes even dillusions (not like acid or shrooms, tho). The thing that bugged me when I did it was eye twitches and when people would come up and do those glowstick shows 2 in. away from my face.
Be careful- you just take your time, be aware, I never regretted anything, especially in what I said (I didn't say much), but as for actions, I had a boyfriend (my husband now) and so I was touchy feely with him only and the whole sexual experience was heightened. So you may feel that way with almost anyone you feel attracted to, so watch your limits.

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But this is a big concern for me. Saying something along those lines may have repurcussions socially, and even if only minor, it's something I'd rather not deal with...which I guess is my dilemma.
You should never feel afraid to express yourself Who cares what people think. E will make you speak the truth- most likely the truth that you didn't realize you knew about something or someone. But don't let that go beyond- it could give people the wrong impression, but that doesn't matter. You are you. I remember that E did help me not be afraid to express myself- why should I be? And- still, 7 years past, I can still see the peace, love, unity, and respect for all people who come into my path and I share my feelings with people. That's what makes me stronger.

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Old 07-15-2004, 12:13 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I am blessed because my buddy gets pure mdma from northern cali...

let me tell ya, it's called ecstasy for a reason brother.

taken on a near empty stomach it starts kickin' in after 15-20 minutes. then it's a blissful happy ride for the next 2 hours.

I like to crunch up the first pill, and take a 2nd about an hour later.

3 is too many though....I started trying to pick shit up off the floor that wasn't there

the serotonin rush can sometimes leave me feeling a little depressed the next day. nothing too major though, and definitely nothing some good food, good herb and good sex can't handle hehe.

oh, and sex on mdma....at least for me.....lose lose situation. the blood flow doesn't seem to wanna happen at that time if you know what I mean.
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No, the chances of getting crack or opiates in E is very very slim. It just isn't cost effective to lace a product that sells cheaply with items that arn't cheap. Pills are made in their hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions. A dealer two layers above street (not the street dealer, nor the dealer above him, but the one above him) can have 20,000 pills to shift a week, and they still arn't anywhere near the producers.
Pill manufacturers are running a business, they're not going to add other illegial drugs to your product if they can avoid it because it's expensive, and half the time people won't notice.
Yes, sometimes pills do contain other drugs, but they arn't 'laced', the drugs have been put in in quanities that will enhance the buzz. As i said before, you won't sell pills if you kill or make ill your market.
The stuff that makes up the pill is orally inert, yes, it's probably not the best stuff in the world, but it won't do you more damage than the MDMA. If you chose to snort, smoke or IV your E then thats another matter, and you get whats coming to you.

Pure MDMA is a completly different ball game, like you said pinkie, it affects you in a completly different way to pills, i prefer it myself, but it's just damned hard to get a hold of.
MDMA will affect you a hell of a lot differently than pills because your taking more of it, in a more concentrated form. Pure MDMA is beutiful.


Yes, there is a lot of shit being passed off for E, but as long as you buy from a reputable dealer, then 99.9999999999% of the time you'll be fine.
I said crank.
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