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Karby 04-23-2004 03:40 PM

how often do you lie?
 
lately i've found myself lying about stupid things to everyone. i'm usually not a liar, but for the past couple days, that's what i've been doing. Not lies that play heavily on the conscience, like murdering someone and denying it, but small ones, like saying you didn't leave the tv on when you clearly know you did. And making up stories--especially to my kid brother. those are some of the lies i've told lately.

assilem 04-23-2004 05:01 PM

You are definitely going to hell.

Just messing with you.

I lie sometimes just to see if the person I am lying to will believe it. They are usually pretty big lies though. Like trying to convince someone that the pope just said it is now ok to be gay or that the mars rover found intelligent life.

moonstrucksoul 04-23-2004 05:01 PM

never (lie)
all the time (also a lie)

the truth is I can't really tell you.

grayman 04-23-2004 05:24 PM

Probably much more often than I should. Basically all the time, either to avoid punishment or to mislead people for fun or profit.

TM875 04-23-2004 05:40 PM

Well, back when I was the dictator of a small island nation, I would cut off the tongues of anyone that I caught committing a falsehood.

When I moved into my 50 acre estate in LA, I naturally couldn't behave like that anymore. Thus, I became govenor. After a successful run, I left to become a recluse in a shack in Wyoming. It is there that I still live today....

WarWagon 04-23-2004 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grayman
Probably much more often than I should. Basically all the time, either to avoid punishment or to mislead people for fun or profit.
What he said.

Harshaw 04-23-2004 05:47 PM

I work in a call center in customer service... all the damn time.

Aletheia 04-23-2004 06:01 PM

I don't keep track. I try not to but sometimes a lie is needed at the moment.

isis 04-23-2004 06:33 PM

I used to have a huge lying problem as a child. I'd lie to make up a more interesting story. Now, I seem to 'embellish facts' occasionally. Or, I'll lie to get myself out of doing something. I'd have to say I probably lie several times on a daily basis .. but for the most part its to save my own ass, or to make sure the person I'm lying to isn't hurt.

Example: Friend X talks shit to me about Friend Y. Friend Y asks what shit was talked.. I'll make it far less severe. I won't lie and say they said NOTHING, but I won't tell them the full truth.

Sparhawk 04-23-2004 07:08 PM

Never.

tecoyah 04-23-2004 07:11 PM

I always tell the truth.
I am lying.

ThrasheR 04-23-2004 07:25 PM

Lying is fun.

Polyphobic 04-23-2004 07:39 PM

All the time. Little white lies out of boredom. Sometimes to see if the other person will believe them.

nash 04-23-2004 08:04 PM

Revelations 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Don't be a liar!!!!!!111oneone

I used to lie a lot about small things and then I found that people found me less trustworthy so I quit it.

absorbentishe 04-24-2004 05:21 AM

I try not to lie about anything, but sometimes you got to do what you got to do. If you lie, you have to remember what you said for at least 3 years, and I can't frickin' remember last night, let alone 3 years ago. Getting caught in a lie is the worst. My sister on the other hand, she lies about the damn weather outside.

Polyphobic 04-24-2004 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nash
Revelations 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."


Cool. I detest religion. Thus, this doesn't apply to me. Consequently, justifying my little white lies.:)

ARTelevision 04-24-2004 05:57 AM

The reason I tell the truth is bacause it makes me stronger.
The reason I don't lie is because it makes me weaker.

Seems like a no-brainer.

sexymama 04-24-2004 08:07 AM

I strive to be truthful. I'll be it, sometimes the truth is "softened" for the sake of the other human being -- but it is the truth none-the-less. (That dress is great for you, mom.) Having lived with a lier for 11 years, I know just how painful it can be and how consistent lying breaks down trust.

Lebell 04-24-2004 09:17 AM

There are a couple of problems with habitual lying:

- You have to keep track of the lies you told and the more you tell the harder this is.

- People catch on and start questioning you when you are telling the truth.

- The more you lie, the easier it becomes.


So I try very hard not to lie, even when it would make my life a little easier and chances are I won't get caught.

Yakk 04-24-2004 09:29 AM

I am not a good enough liar to do it. My memory is swiss cheese, so what little I have I have to use to keep my head on strait. =p I avoid mentioning things, yes, but I can't keep lies strait: hell, I can't keep what actually happens strait half the time!

For simular reasons (damn memory), if someone tends to lie, I can't be bothered to remember exactly how and why that person lies. I simply try to remember "X lies", and don't trust any statement they make again. Doesn't mean they are a bad or worse person, just means their word becomes worthless to me. That is, if I can remember they are a liar, *sigh*. One of my oldest friends is in this category: he's a good person, he just is comfortable not telling the truth.

Cursive 04-24-2004 11:45 AM

I always tell the truth.....even when I lie I tell the truth

b1naryb0r1s 04-24-2004 11:53 AM

I almost never lie. In fact, the only time I lie is when it's for a good cause such as for a suprise birthday party or something similar. I cannot stand being lied to by people, it's rediculous.

*Please don't mind my small rant because I just got dumped in a 5 1/2 year relationship and she lied about lots of things. Oh well.

Modo 04-24-2004 12:12 PM

<b><font color=FFFF00 face="comic sans ms">If one lies enough to believe the lie, is it the truth? I try not to...</font></b>

Nafter 04-24-2004 02:11 PM

I dont lie very often at all, i find i dont need to, just handle telling the truth and accepting the concequences. It usually seems worse than it is when you feel you have to tell a lie. People also think better of you, in my opinion, its good to be honest :)

Although, playing a lighthearted joke i feel is ok and not true lying, as long as they understand later and hopefully laugh its not the same "feel" to it, your not decieving them about anything important.

Fremen 04-24-2004 04:00 PM

I lie to my nieces and nephew sometimes.
Their jokes aren't that funny.

KellyC 04-24-2004 10:07 PM

sometimes...you just gotta lie.

Quote:

Originally posted by Fremen
I lie to my nieces and nephew sometimes.
Their jokes aren't that funny.

...this would be a good time. ;) or anything similar in nature.

bernadette 04-24-2004 10:30 PM

the truth is the best.

i don't want to be lied to by you, so in turn i won't lie to you.

ninety09 04-24-2004 11:05 PM

I think that there are a few situations where lying can make life a little easier. I never lie about important things though.

fallenangel 04-24-2004 11:46 PM

I have an unnatural talent for lying and for seeing through other people's lies (to my face that is)... which is indeed a double edged sword. Sometimes it happens all too naturally, and i catch myself and i'm like "what am i saying?!?!?!"

Pacifier 04-25-2004 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harshaw
I work in a call center in customer service... all the damn time.
:lol: me too

in private i usually don't lie. But sometimes I don't tell everything, I keep unpleasant parts for myself and I try not to hurt others feelings. So I don't know if this counts as "lie"

tecoyah 04-25-2004 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nash
Revelations 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

.

Sweet....a flaming lake, and two, count 'em two deaths. I always loved this passage, just hope there is enough room for me, and Jerry Falwells fat ass.

Point is, everyone has lied, and will likely do so again. The level of deciet is where I take issue. I am just waiting for the inevitable "I don't lie" post , so I can call them a liar.

Peetster 04-25-2004 05:21 AM

My word is my bond.

If you've ever heard the expression "wears his heart on his sleeve", and you understand it, then you know a lot about me. I am a very open and honest person.

"Honey, do these pants make me look fat?"

"No, dear. It's not the pants, it's the extra 20 pounds you're carrying on your ass."

I know. I'm a real pain in the ass to live with.

Tophat665 04-25-2004 05:28 AM

I'm lying to you now.


(So much for sophomore logic tricks)

I lie when I need to. When I don't, it's just too much work to make it work. All in all, I would say that I am more honest than the average, because "need to" doesn't cover most white lies, and I am generally clever enough to tell the truth in such a way as to leave it open to the interpretation that the listener expects, regardless. (I think there would be a place for me in the Bush administration if it weren't evil.;))

tisonlyi 04-25-2004 06:06 AM

I try not to lie, but sometimes its the 'better' of the options available.

Brutal honesty does no-one a hell of a lot of good all of the time.

Of course, I embellish as a matter of course.

animosity 04-25-2004 07:46 PM

i dont lie about important things because it is to hard to keep track of lies. that and sometimes the truth is more fun... i am sure i lie about things though. just dont really know what.

mml 04-25-2004 09:46 PM

As often or as rarely as needed. Never in regards to something major, usually just the small stuff. I hate to offend when it is really not necessary. I also used to work in a hotel, and frankly I lied all the time - never put your trust in a front desk clerk. I have lied and I will lie again - so have most of us. (I acutally think it is all of us, but some people really seem to believe they don't ever do it, so I will just let it slide.)

dendron 05-05-2004 10:14 AM

There is a difference in my opinion between lying and bending the truth like the fact that sometimes its necessary for a lie for small things but I hate liers in a relationship I'd never lie in a relationship I was having. I've been lied to in a relationship and hate that. I would much rather someone just come right out and tell me what someone said or did than have to find out myself.

Charlatan 05-05-2004 10:42 AM

I don't lie... I just embellish stories.

Rubyee 05-05-2004 10:54 AM

Big lies, like "I did not have sexual relations..." I never tell.

Little lies, like "I was not the last person to drink the coffee..." eh, once every two or three days.

Foozer 05-05-2004 01:13 PM

I think its normal to give little lies, i wouldn't lie if someone else was in danger, but a lie for a late work that i handed to the teacher or the price of shoes that i purchased, is not big deal.


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