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Phaenx · 05-07-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by guthmund
I just wish the Government would say: Okay, look, were all adults here....you understand the risks involved....go out knock yourselves out. Smoke everything....
It's time for you to start acting like an adult and taking responsibility for your actions, were tired of babysitting

It would quickly become my problem, and on a larger scale, society at large would have yet another problem to deal with. It's too much already dealing with good for nothing alcoholics and smelly chain-smokers blowing smoke around with my asthma. If it serves a medical purpose, fine. Beyond that, no way, I'll be damned if I have to put up with more lazy ass pot head coworkers.

sixate · 05-07-2003, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Phaenx
It would quickly become my problem, and on a larger scale, society at large would have yet another problem to deal with. It's too much already dealing with good for nothing alcoholics and smelly chain-smokers blowing smoke around with my asthma. If it serves a medical purpose, fine. Beyond that, no way, I'll be damned if I have to put up with more lazy ass pot head coworkers.

I couldn't agree more. I don't have asthma though. If you ever come around Youngstown send me a PM. We think a lot alike. I have a feeling we would get along great.

Sion · 05-07-2003, 10:56 PM

"The drug marinol is pure, synthetic THC."

pure synthetic? isnt that a contradiction in terms?

ok, here is my take:

just about ANYTHING (hell, probably everything) that you can eat, drink, smoke or in any otherways ingest into your body can be bad for you IF you get too much of it. as was previously mentioned, MODERATION is the key. does marijuana have side effects? absolutely. are these side effects as bad as other, legal drugs? absolutely NOT, at least in terms of should it be legal.

consider the side effects of the three most commonly used (and abused) legal drugs:

caffeine
alcohol
cigarettes/tobacco

versus those of marijuana.

let's all be grown ups here and face the facts. chronic, long term use of any of these 4 drugs (and any of the hundreds of other drugs, both legal and illegal) is NOT going to be good your health. in other words, to anyone who thinks its news that cannabis use could be bad for you, I say a big

DUH! NO SHIT SHERLOCK! THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

meanwhile, I think the real issue (at least here in the US) is and continues to be ignored. and that issue is, does the government have a constitutional right to control what I put in my body?

I say that it does not.

The most common counter argument I get to that is that the government has a responsibility to protect the populace from harmful things. To which I reply: then why is tobacco and alcohol legal. There is NO doubt that hundreds of thousands of people die every year as a direct result of use of these drugs. And untold numbers more die as an indirect result of the use of them.

So I repeat, why should pot be illegal when tobacco and alcohol are not?

Finally, let me say that I do NOT advocate the use of any drugs, legal or illegal. That is a choice to be made by each individual. Adult individual.

butthead · 05-07-2003, 10:59 PM

Seems we have two threads on the legal status of marijuana/medical marijuana now.

Phaenx · 05-07-2003, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I couldn't agree more. I don't have asthma though. If you ever come around Youngstown send me a PM. We think a lot alike. I have a feeling we would get along great.

Sounds good, I'll make note to let you know before I head up there any time.

Sion · 05-08-2003, 02:22 AM

hey Phaenx and sixate: I used to live in both Youngstown and Columbus. Lived in Ytown proper and Austintown. went to OSU and currently live about 30 mins SE of Columbus. just out of curiosity, are either of you students now (at YSU or OSU)?

sixate · 05-08-2003, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sion
hey Phaenx and sixate: I used to live in both Youngstown and Columbus. Lived in Ytown proper and Austintown. went to OSU and currently live about 30 mins SE of Columbus. just out of curiosity, are either of you students now (at YSU or OSU)?

I grew up just outside Youngstown in Struthers and live really close to Austintown now, and I'm looking to move there later this year. Almost went to YSU, but their hoops program has always been shit. I went to a school in PA, but my coach was a liar and I left and got a job and started taking care of myself. A friend of mine played football at OSU. He transferred last year. Doh!

05-07-2003, 10:56 PM	#43 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	"The drug marinol is pure, synthetic THC." pure synthetic? isnt that a contradiction in terms? ok, here is my take: just about ANYTHING (hell, probably everything) that you can eat, drink, smoke or in any otherways ingest into your body can be bad for you IF you get too much of it. as was previously mentioned, MODERATION is the key. does marijuana have side effects? absolutely. are these side effects as bad as other, legal drugs? absolutely NOT, at least in terms of should it be legal. consider the side effects of the three most commonly used (and abused) legal drugs: caffeine alcohol cigarettes/tobacco versus those of marijuana. let's all be grown ups here and face the facts. chronic, long term use of any of these 4 drugs (and any of the hundreds of other drugs, both legal and illegal) is NOT going to be good your health. in other words, to anyone who thinks its news that cannabis use could be bad for you, I say a big DUH! NO SHIT SHERLOCK! THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. meanwhile, I think the real issue (at least here in the US) is and continues to be ignored. and that issue is, does the government have a constitutional right to control what I put in my body? I say that it does not. The most common counter argument I get to that is that the government has a responsibility to protect the populace from harmful things. To which I reply: then why is tobacco and alcohol legal. There is NO doubt that hundreds of thousands of people die every year as a direct result of use of these drugs. And untold numbers more die as an indirect result of the use of them. So I repeat, why should pot be illegal when tobacco and alcohol are not? Finally, let me say that I do NOT advocate the use of any drugs, legal or illegal. That is a choice to be made by each individual. Adult individual. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

05-08-2003, 02:22 AM	#46 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	hey Phaenx and sixate: I used to live in both Youngstown and Columbus. Lived in Ytown proper and Austintown. went to OSU and currently live about 30 mins SE of Columbus. just out of curiosity, are either of you students now (at YSU or OSU)? __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

05-07-2003, 10:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
butthead Loser Location: SF Bay Area, CA	Seems we have two threads on the legal status of marijuana/medical marijuana now.