04-06-2004, 02:13 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Welcome to Liberty University... welcome to Hell!
Okay TFPers, Here are the rules to Liberty University. This is the conduct code for a REAL University. Not only is devil worship and listening to unapproved music forbidden but so is attending dances and "anything more than hand holding". In fact if you miss convocation whilst going to school -that's the equivalent to "borrowing" something without permission.
And you thought Your School was hell. Student Affairs Reprimands and Consequences 1 Reprimand * Curfew violation (1 additional reprimand for each half-hour late until 2:00 a.m.) 4 Reprimands + Written Warning * Allowing unauthorized overnight visitor in residence room * Absence from required meeting * Disturbance/non-participation during Convocation * Dress/hair code violation: male or female * Failure to respond to an official call slip within 48 hours * Horseplay (plus financial restitution) * Improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding) * Improper sign out * Missing Convocation * Music code violation * Outside residence hall after curfew * Residence hall disturbance/noise violation * Unauthorized borrowing (plus financial restitution) 6 Reprimands + $35 Fine * Attendance at a dance * Direct disobedience/disrespect * Disassembly or removal of residence hall furniture * Entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same * Gambling * Improper social behavior * Possession and/or use of tobacco * Unauthorized room change 12 Reprimands + $70 Fine (less previously paid fines) * Attendance at, possession or viewing of, an "R," "NC-17" or "X"-rated movie * Deception * Entering the residence hallway of the opposite sex or allowing the same * Entering the space above ceiling tiles * Malicious horseplay/behavior (plus financial restitution) * Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior * Out of residence hall overnight or substantial portion of the night without permission (after 2:00 a.m.) * Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration * Possession and/or viewing of pornography * Possession of a school key without authorization * Safety/security violation * Students of the opposite sex visiting alone at an off-campus residence 18 Reprimands + $100 Fine (regardless of previously paid fines) + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service + 50% Scholarship Reduction * Association with those consuming alcohol * Commission of a misdemeanor * Entering a residence hall apartment or quad of the opposite sex or allowing the same * Entering bedroom of the opposite sex on/off campus or allowing the same * Failure to properly identify oneself * Falsification of information on an official document * Lying to a dean during an official investigation * Racial harassment * Sexual harassment (i.e., unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors or other conduct or comments of a sexual nature) * Sexual misconduct and/or any state of undress * Threat to do bodily harm * Vandalism (plus financial restitution) 30 Reprimands + $150 Fine (regardless of previously paid fines) + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal and/or possible 100% Scholarship Reduction. NOTE: For each accumulation of six (6) or more reprimands after 30, an additional $150 fine will be assessed. * Abortion * Academic dishonesty * Assault/sexual assault (minimum two (2) semesters out) * Commission/conviction of any felony * Failure of three (3) Christian/Community Services without reconciliation * Illegal drugs-association/possession, use/distribution (minimum two semesters out) * Immorality * Involvement with witchcraft, séances or other satanic or demonic activity * Life-threatening behavior or language to others or oneself (immediate removal/exclusion from campus and a minimum of two semesters out) * Non-participation/disruption/non-compliance (possible removal/exclusion from campus) * Possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages * Refusal to submit to an Alco-Sensor test and/or drug test * Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex * Stealing or possession of stolen property (plus financial restitution; minimum two semesters out) * Two or more individuals of the opposite sex together in motel room * Unauthorized possession/use of weapons http://www.liberty.edu/StudentAffair...x.cfm?PID=1378 |
04-06-2004, 02:36 PM | #4 (permalink) | |
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04-06-2004, 02:43 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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I've heard of some other colleges like that round chicago in the burbs. I've got a friend who goes to one very much like that and when she was telling me about the rules there I about hit the floor, because it was NOTHING like my experience here at good old <generic state funded school>.
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04-06-2004, 02:44 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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Entering the space above the ceiling tiles??
I also found it rather amusing that "entering a residence hall of the opposite sex" carries the same punishment as falsifying documents...
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04-06-2004, 03:32 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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My cousin went to Bethel University for awhile. Seems like the rules are very similar.
I don't know why anyone would want to put themselves through that kind of existence, but I would be willing to bet they get pretty good grades.
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04-06-2004, 03:57 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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I don't see what the big deal is. A private college has a right to make rules for their school, no matter how stupid others might see them as (unless those rules are illegal). If people choose to go there, then they should know what rules they are expected to follow.
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04-06-2004, 04:50 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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That's exactly what I was thinking Pragma. Think of all the sexually repressed chicks you'd attract.
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04-06-2004, 05:17 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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Intersting, the rules say nothing about homosexuality, and since entering a hall of the same sex is not forbidden, it creates a rather interesting situation.
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04-06-2004, 05:19 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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Yeah I showed this to a friend and she said that they seemed to actually be promoting homosexuality
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04-06-2004, 05:21 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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04-06-2004, 05:23 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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Interesting the closed mindedness some people who have posted on this thread as such.
For people who claim that people should be tolerant of other's sexuality and choices, one isn't so tolerant of the opposite end of the spectrum. IMHO those of who have spoken out as such are equal to those BDSM folks claim that people aren't accepting of their lifestyle only to look down on vanilla sex people themselves.
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04-06-2004, 05:32 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Yeah, those rules suck. No, I couldnt handle them.
But at the same time, its a personal choice to go there. If you are going to do so, you are going to have to accept those rules. And from the looks of it, the people going there wouldnt have any problem with those rules.
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04-06-2004, 07:03 PM | #23 (permalink) | |
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They have the catch-all "Immorality", which I am sure covers any and all things that aren't specifically mentioned but discouraged nonetheless. I also noted the irony of the name, "Liberty University". Liberty to do what, give up your Liberty by attending?
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04-06-2004, 07:41 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Heh, well, apparently there's a niche market that is keeping them in business - after all, if there was nobody to attend, they would cease to exist.
You are all making this seem so negative. Think of it in a positive light - isn't it great that all those potentially dangerous bible-thumping fundamentalist nut-jobs are safely locked away in Liberty University, instead of walking the streets denouncing our sinful and decadent lifestyles? Aah, good old Libery University - keeping society free from religious fanatics... at least until they graduate.
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04-06-2004, 07:49 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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LOl thats why you live off school grounds. But it seems to me that this school is this way because its like a church school or a religious school.
Haha If i went to that school I would get kicked out I work night shift, I work at a casino and I gamble for fun like maybe once every 2 months when my mom goes to the casino to see me she will wait untill i get of then give me money to play with her so its not my money I play with or lose lol.
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04-06-2004, 07:52 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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I would like to say two things.
It is a choice for whomever decides to attend that school, and if they believe that the list of rules is acceptable, then I respect their choice. I would never, ever, ever, ever go there myself. Makes me want to set up a large screen just off-campus facing the residence halls, hook up the most powerful speakers I can find, and play A Clockwork Orange ALL NIGHT LONG. My cousin went to a Baptist college in Past-the-middle-of-nowhere, Missouri, a couple years ago, and they had similar rules. She voluntarally left after about a year and a half.
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04-06-2004, 08:03 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
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The purpose of the rules is probably to discourage people who wouldn't want to follow the rules from attending.
Those who would like such an environment will be heartened by the rules, they can avoid the temptation that would exist at other institutes of higher learning. And, they get an education. So, really, places like this are a good thing. It still doesn't mean I won't make fun of them. =) Quote:
In most institutional buildings, the walls don't pass the ceiling tiles. So, you can slip up above them, and get into adjacent offices, in order to pull off pranks. This rule was probably added to discourage such pranks, or even pre-exploration to attempt such pranks. =)
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04-07-2004, 07:37 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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Holy bejeesus. $150 fine for getting an abortion? Still better than having to raise a kid I can't support...
So yeah, that sounds like a fun school
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04-07-2004, 07:56 AM | #31 (permalink) | |
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04-07-2004, 08:28 AM | #32 (permalink) |
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what else would you expect from a college in a town in the south called Lynchburg and is run by jerry falwell? I live in salem not too far away from there and most of the people i know that come from there are just ...strange(i'm putting it nicely).
I really have a grudge against Fallwell. I actually had a friend who had lost a leg recently and was actually publically mocked by Falwell and his cohorts at another table for her misfortune, the kicker was they had been praying the last 4 or so sundays in his church for her. |
04-07-2004, 10:17 AM | #33 (permalink) | |
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It's only ironic depending on your perception of what "liberty" means. It's ironic for me, because my perception of "liberty" isn't contained in those rules, but for others maybe these rules allow them to be themselves without the pressure of fitting in or apologizing for choosing not to drink, have sex, et cetera.... Actually there are quite a few good ones there. I don't like it, but smarmy jokes only hurt my argument in the long run.
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04-07-2004, 10:18 AM | #34 (permalink) | |
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04-07-2004, 10:21 AM | #35 (permalink) |
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Jesus Christ...(no pun intended)
I'm glad I'm going to a public university...I dare my school to tell me I can't have a drink or go dancing. I hate when institutions of learning act in loco parentis.
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04-07-2004, 01:21 PM | #36 (permalink) |
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It's just like any other organization....they can set their rules, you can choose to join or not....
examples. Yacht Club - http://www.dlyc.com/rules.html Tennis Club - http://www.iiasa.ac.at/~marek/tennis/Docs/rules_e.html Golf - http://www.goldcreek.com/golfrules.htm Same thing imho. Choice is up to the consumer. |
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04-07-2004, 05:48 PM | #39 (permalink) |
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that's horrible. i always believed that the fundemental notion of education is based on the respect for knowledge thusly a respect for ideas. and as a platotist, in epistomology at least, the development of ideas require the freedom to experience things such as the opposite sex either physically or at a emotional level. By restricting these freedoms, i think the college is also restricting their students' ability to learn.
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