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charlesesl 04-02-2004 10:01 PM

Petition: Ban all teenager from the internet
 
The other day, I was on some other forum giving advise to some 14 year old on identity issues. And this guy totally flame me for it.

So this gave me an idea. Why not ban all teenagers altogether. Teens are the primary source for immoral people on the internet. Flamers, team killers are mostly consist of them.

Now, I am sure that not all teenagers are egotistical kids who believes they are omnipotient. But internet is full of these people.

By banning teenagers, we could allow them to get to know the world more. Instead of having them proving their infallable world views, they could be playing sports, making out with their girlfirends, or joining hands and dancing on some sunny grass fields.

PS: I am not really serous, or am I?

lafemmefatale 04-02-2004 10:22 PM

Everyone's sick of jackasses, which is why it's great to be on tfp, where it's well moderated. While tfp has an age limit, it's not the age limit that keeps the contents good, once in a while there still is pretty off taste posts [that are quickly dealt with]. Certainly if fark.com had an age limit, it wouldn't make a difference to the quality of a lot of their posts [low]. So let's just be thankful we're all here (/sucking up)

RoboBlaster 04-02-2004 10:30 PM

lol omg u r so rite!!!!111

skier 04-02-2004 10:34 PM

"Teenagers" is a very large group to generalize. I've seen many teens much more mature than a lot of so-called adults. It's just kind of an ignorant viewpoint to take.

oldtimer 04-02-2004 10:47 PM

Nice try, charlesesl. *Dying clap*

But how do you actually propose instating your idea worldwide?

Are teenagers going to voluntarily sign over their rights to the internet? Is some magical identification system going to be invented? Are all parents going to unanimously agree with this idea? Are all laws followed obediently day after day? Are cuban cigars not brought into the country because they are illegal? Do teenagers still deal and smoke weed even though it's illegal?

Please actually propose an idea that can happen...

djtestudo 04-02-2004 11:12 PM

Reminds me when I was a senior in high school, the classroom my English class was held in was used the period before by a freshman English class, so it was always trashed when my teacher got there. One day we had this conversation:

Him: "I swear, freshmen aren't human."

Me: "Just remember, you were a freshman once, too."

Him: "Yeah, and I wasn't human at that point either."

PulpMind 04-02-2004 11:13 PM

Would banning teenagers also make the gramatical errors of your post (and of the whole internet) dissapear as well?
Flamers are fun. Bad grammer hurts my head.

Aletheia 04-02-2004 11:20 PM

Lets ban all people who make generalizations to.

bermuDa 04-02-2004 11:20 PM

technically I'm still a teenager ;)

maybe we should be banning people who can't act like adults? That's an even bigger group though.

shakran 04-02-2004 11:21 PM

Quote:

Teens are the primary source for immoral people on the internet
Yeah, I'm so tired of reading about all those teenaged pedophiles setting up sex meetings with 6 year old girls. I NEVER see adults doing that ;)

kl0pper 04-02-2004 11:46 PM

yeah and lets ban old people and women too

zenthax 04-03-2004 12:25 AM

If anything i think a ban on teenagers would only make our situation worse. After all we know absolutely no teens drink or smoke ;)

doomdoom 04-03-2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bermuDa
tmaybe we should be banning people who can't act like adults? That's an even bigger group though.
acting like an adult is in reality, acting like older people generalize young poeple as acting.


ive met some many teenagers that are 10x more mature than most all older people its almost scary.

Halx 04-03-2004 12:58 AM

most teenagers are banned from here, so stick with us!!

Nisses 04-03-2004 02:22 AM

yeah, I hate bad grammer and gramatical errors too :p

And I'll choose to think you aren't serious and laugh :)

CSflim 04-03-2004 03:11 AM

I presume that you are joking.

CinnamonGirl 04-03-2004 03:40 AM

Let's just ban stupid people. That would be a much better idea. *nods*

kl0pper 04-03-2004 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CinnamonGirl
Let's just ban stupid people. That would be a much better idea. *nods*
please dont
i kind of like it here
ill be good i promise

veruca 04-03-2004 05:16 AM

I work in a restaraunt frequented by teenagers. I can't stand it. They are just as egotistical and obnoxious in person. I'll give them a little lea-way, they are kids, but it is just getting ridiculous how disrespectful they are..I am going to stop before I get on a real tirade...let's just say I agree, but maybe more with the "getting rid of stupid people".

Tophat665 04-03-2004 07:27 AM

Oye! Kids today! And the Noise they listen to! (Gotta go take my fiber now.)

Redjake 04-03-2004 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RoboBlaster
lol omg u r so rite!!!!111
I laughed out loud when I read that :)

Fearless_Hyena 04-03-2004 01:18 PM

asl?

Skettios 04-03-2004 01:41 PM

C'mon, teenagers aren't that bad. They need to be in the real world of the internet, it's good for them. Without any experience they'll never realize that they aren't going to grow up to be rich/famous/powerful and that they aren't going to be young for ever. Once that realization sets in, they usually sober up a bit.

Aletheia 04-03-2004 03:07 PM

Let's ban their devil music as well!

filtherton 04-03-2004 03:15 PM

We should just shut down the internet.
Admit it people!! It's just not working out.

woOt? 04-03-2004 03:38 PM

While we're at it..let's ban my grandma from the internet too..she can be annoying ;)

World's King 04-03-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Halx
most teenagers are banned from here, so stick with us!!
Yippie.

charlesesl 04-03-2004 09:59 PM

1. I apologize for my grammar mistakes. I started learning English 7 years ago. For some reason (probably my laziness) my grammar skills never really developed.

2. I am not saying all teenagers are bad. I know that a lot of teenagers are very mature for their age. And I know what it is like to be a teenager. (Heck, I am 18) But the thing is, there are a lot of bad teens, and they are bad bad people who should never be allowed to post their views.

3. Maybe I should have posted this in the non-sense section, since I am not entirely serous. And yes, my idea is not practical at all.

4. TFP is great. There are less immature teenagers regerstered as members in TFP than the number of immature teens in a single post on the ICQ forum.

Aletheia 04-03-2004 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charlesesl
bad people who should never be allowed to post their views.


Be very careful with this view as censorship is a slippery slope.

Rangsk 04-03-2004 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Aletheia
Be very careful with this view as censorship is a slippery slope.
I'm always reminded of the quote:
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it." -- Voltaire

I wish more people subscribed to that idea.

If you don't like talking to 14 year olds, then don't talk to 14 year olds. Making the internet some kind of elitist privilage is not what it was designed for.

I wrote a paper in my senior year of highschool on the degredation of the internet society, and my thesis was basically that it will continue to degrade until schools start educating (and start early!) students about the internet and how to respect it as a means of communication and an educational tool.

Aletheia 04-03-2004 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rangsk
I'm always reminded of the quote:
"I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it." -- Voltaire

I was thinking of the same quote. :thumbsup:

Prince 04-03-2004 11:18 PM

This may come as a surprise, but the Internet isn't just a source of porn. It can be an invaluable resource for research and study, and for forming friendships that do not know geographical boundaries.

Admittedly, I can't stand chatting with teenagers, in most cases. Some of them are quite bright, and I make no judgment on them based on their age. It's just that "asl" bullshit that I really detest. And the 1337 talk, of course.

Want a solution? There probably isn't one, but a good place to start is letigation. So far, IMHO, the one aspect of the Internet that has gone pretty much undeveloped is security. Not just the security of each workstation connected to it, but the security of the entire network.

One way to prevent the clutter is to find ways to really enforce security and laws online. Who do you think pays for the Internet use of these obnoxious teens? Their parents, or the school, or perhaps the library. Libraries and schools can maintain quite detailed control over what resources can be accessed via their systems. So can parents, but more often than not the parents are significantly more illiterate on computers and security than their kids, and wouldn't know how to approach the security issues even if they were aware of the possible risks.

So let's enforce the laws. Let's improve the way ISPs handle abuse of their network resources. Got a college kid scanning your ports? Report him to his ISP. The same goes for idiots abusing your site. Almost every site has Terms of Service, which most of us completely ignore when we sign up. They can, however, be enforced.

And when parents find out that their ISP has disabled the Internet account for abuse of resources... Well, perhaps then they'll be more interested in their kiddies' online activities.

True, many ISPs don't really give a flying fuck, but I think this is the direction from which the problem should be approached.

StormBerlin 04-04-2004 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fearless_Hyena
asl?
I'm laughing pretty hard right now... and I remember when I used to ask that :)

Luki 04-04-2004 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
This may come as a surprise, but the Internet isn't just a source of porn. It can be an invaluable resource for research and study, and for forming friendships that do not know geographical boundaries.

Admittedly, I can't stand chatting with teenagers, in most cases. Some of them are quite bright, and I make no judgment on them based on their age. It's just that "asl" bullshit that I really detest. And the 1337 talk, of course...

The internet itself was begun as a source of information for our mailitary, then maturing slowly it became a place of nothing but text information for research. As it grew it became more diverse and as with everything else in this world it was tainted with sex, hence: porn. The ASL and 1337(whatever that means) is quite anoying.

And as a 19-year-old I reserve my right in defending my maturity level, intellegence, and integrety. I find that most people between the ages of 13 and 15 are looking for stuff they shouldn't be, people between the ages of 16 and 25 tend to look for your availibility to meet them and screw them in the near future. As for the rest, they tend to make great conversationalist. Although this tends to be the trend it's not allways so. In fact my buddy list is quite filled with mature people who understand from the get-go that I'm not a moralless teen-aged girl. Their ages range from 15 to 46 and although it does take time to find other people out there in chat rooms, it's not impossible, trust me.

If the bother you so much, ignore them or block them...

H12 04-04-2004 09:17 AM

Welcome to the internet. where the men are boys, the women are boys, and the children are FBI agents.

oldtimer 04-05-2004 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PulpMind
Would banning teenagers also make the gramatical errors of your post (and of the whole internet) dissapear as well?
Flamers are fun. Bad grammer hurts my head.

Hey... calm down. There were a few grammatical mistakes but not enough to require a post ridiculing them. *sheesh*

Quote:

Originally posted by charlesesl
1. I apologize for my grammar mistakes. I started learning English 7 years ago. For some reason (probably my laziness) my grammar skills never really developed.
No need to defend yourself. Shit, you have better typing skills than a lot of people here who can't take the half-a-millisecond required to hit the shift key and the capitalize the letter "I" or for that matter even the words beginning their sentences. :D

Quote:

2. I am not saying all teenagers are bad. I know that a lot of teenagers are very mature for their age...
Very true.

Quote:

3. ...I am not entirely serous. And yes, my idea is not practical at all.
Glad to hear it. :)

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4. TFP is great.
That it is.

2kids1headache 04-05-2004 09:27 PM

I think that, when the implants come, they'll be able to sort a lot of this out through nanobots that date the subject's age based on their physiological development and that determine the subject's sanity based on the chemical balance of their brain.

So hurry up, science!

SVT01Cobra 04-05-2004 09:52 PM

I'm still a teenager, I'm 19 and I'm considered an adult. I would say banning all teenagers under the age of 17 is appropriate.

Lebell 04-05-2004 11:44 PM

Ban 'em all and let God sort 'em out...


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