Virus-writers declare war on each other - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

T.U.B. · 03-04-2004, 02:00 AM

source: kasperskylabs (antivirus company)
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The creators of Bagle, Mydoom and Netsky exchange pleasantries

In the space of 3 hours on 3rd March 2004, Kaspersky Labs detected 5 new modifications of notorious malicious programs: Bagle.i and Bagle.j, Mydoom.f and Mydoom.g, and Netsky.f. The situation is further complicated by the fact that these programs have already caused mass infection.

Kaspersky Labs has already released anti-virus database updates offering protection against these worms. At the same time, the war which has broken out between three different groups of cyber-criminals, the authors of Netsky and the authors of Mydoom and Bagle, is particularly interesting; each new worm modification contains the latest dispatch from the rival groups, none of which are mincing their words:

Netsky.c
we are the skynet - you can't hide yourself! - we kill malware writers (they have no chance!) - [LaMeRz->]MyDoom.F is a thief of our idea! - -< SkyNet AV vs. Malware >- ->->

Netsky.f
Skynet AntiVirus - Bagle - you are a looser!!!!

And, in the answering shots:
Mydoom.f
to netsky's creator(s): imho, skynet is a decentralized peer-to-peer neural network. we have seen P2P in Slapper in Sinit only. they may be called skynets, but not your shitty app.

Bagle.i
Hey, NetSky, fuck off you bitch, don't ruine our bussiness, wanna start a war ?

Bagle.j
Hey, NetSky, fu** off you bitch!

This exchange of courtesies between virus-writers has undoubtedly worsened the situation on the Internet, causing a serious epidemiological incident. Indeed, this latest incident may cause some to think that the Internet has been irrevocably transformed into an arena for a bloody battle of the viruses.
'It's hard to imagine a more comical situation: a handful of virus writers are playing unpunished with the Internet, and not one member of the Internet community can take decisive action to stop to this lawlessness,' commented Eugene Kaspersky, Head of Anti-Virus Research at Kaspersky Labs. 'The problem is not that no-one wants to change the situation, but that the current architecture of the Internet is completely inconsistent with information security.'

Kaspersky Labs points out that similar incidents will continue to occur with increasing frequency until effective methods for the prevention, detection and neutralisation of virus attacks are implemented on the Internet, with creators of malicious programs being prosecuted. Until this is done, any attempt to counter-act virus epidemics will be purely reactive, with unco-ordinated passive defenses failing to significantly change things for the better.

Yeah, just what we need: viruswriters posse's fighting each other

_the_wombat · 03-04-2004, 02:47 AM

Well that's great, just what we needed.

At least my firewall and NAV will help protect my network.

Nisses · 03-04-2004, 06:08 AM

I'm just surprised this hasn't happened before.

Guess the script-kiddies mentality finally invaded the more serious troublemakers too.

/me is gonna start looking into serious firewalling and AV-aps. There's money in that sector I tells ya

yabobo · 03-04-2004, 06:16 AM

Once they get caught they don't get
punished, they get big contracts from
all the anti virus program writers.
Norton, panda,mcafee,ect to turn
from evil side to the good side!

Silvy · 03-04-2004, 06:17 AM

Wow, a good ol' fashioned gang war on the Net.
And just like a real gangwar, the innocents get caught up in the cross-fire!

Someone make them shake hands!

Redlemon · 03-04-2004, 06:57 AM

I blame gangsta rap.

Holo · 03-04-2004, 07:10 AM

I run bareback on the net, no AV or firewalls at all, and I haven't gottena virus since Nimda, and the only reason I got that was infected webservers sent it to me thru a shittily secured browser (IE). Viruses only happen to ppl who don't pay attention to what's coming in IMO, or are too trusting with attachments. I won't open an attachment unless the person has sent me a PM or email that they're going to do so before hand, what it is and the filesize. I also only accept attachments from trusted ppl. I've not gotten a virus in over 2 years.

BenChuy · 03-04-2004, 11:40 AM

It also sounds like the guys is very much in favor of govt. control of the internet, so they can "protect" us from such things. All while knowing every damn thing i do. Liberty or liability, i suppose is the begged question.

spived2 · 03-04-2004, 11:55 AM

lets hope eventually all the viruses that are being sent to the masses destroy each other so us innocents (I use that loosly

don't have to worry about them.

feelgood · 03-05-2004, 10:30 PM

Kids...when will they learn?

Tholo · 03-06-2004, 12:15 AM

I think certain programmers need to get out more.

Schwan · 03-06-2004, 10:19 AM

I can`t help the feeling that this crap is just kids playing. Even so, I`m lost as to how the problem should be dealt with.

grumpyolddude · 03-06-2004, 11:45 AM

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Hey, NetSky, fuck off you bitch, don't ruine our bussiness, wanna start a war ?

"Don't ruin our business"???? ("bussiness", actually)
What "business" are they referring to? Could it be that the virus detection community is involved in ensuring their own prosperity? Or is the anti-IE crowd involved? Linux? SCO?

Somebody is making money off of this whole thing, I think. There has to be a whole lot more going on than rival pimple-pusses being vicious for fun.

My inherent paranoia doesn't disqualify these feelings. I surf defensinvely with good reason.

BoomTruck · 03-08-2004, 09:45 PM

I'm still working on a 3-phase modem that can send a 7200 volt packet to virus writers. If I can just get the amps down.....

water_boy1999 · 03-08-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by grumpyolddude
"Don't ruin our business"???? ("bussiness", actually)
What "business" are they referring to? Could it be that the virus detection community is involved in ensuring their own prosperity? Or is the anti-IE crowd involved? Linux? SCO?

Somebody is making money off of this whole thing, I think. There has to be a whole lot more going on than rival pimple-pusses being vicious for fun.

My inherent paranoia doesn't disqualify these feelings. I surf defensinvely with good reason.

My point exactly! The first thing I thought of is either some sort of conspiracy, or one of the security giants is making us eat our worms and eventually turn that to profit.

skaterpunk · 03-08-2004, 10:22 PM

"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate public and privately owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses, and stealing materials
for their own ends. These people, they are terrorists."
Heh... so awesome.

03-04-2004, 06:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nisses Shade Location: Belgium	I'm just surprised this hasn't happened before. Guess the script-kiddies mentality finally invaded the more serious troublemakers too. /me is gonna start looking into serious firewalling and AV-aps. There's money in that sector I tells ya __________________ Moderation should be moderately moderated.

03-04-2004, 06:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
yabobo Lust Puppy Location: in your closet and in your head...	Once they get caught they don't get punished, they get big contracts from all the anti virus program writers. Norton, panda,mcafee,ect to turn from evil side to the good side! __________________ Why do they sterilize the needle for lethal injections? Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.

03-04-2004, 06:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Silvy paranoid Location: The Netherlands	Wow, a good ol' fashioned gang war on the Net. And just like a real gangwar, the innocents get caught up in the cross-fire! Someone make them shake hands! __________________ "Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. " - Murphy MacManus (Boondock Saints)

03-04-2004, 06:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	I blame gangsta rap. __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

03-04-2004, 07:10 AM	#7 (permalink)
Holo A Real American	I run bareback on the net, no AV or firewalls at all, and I haven't gottena virus since Nimda, and the only reason I got that was infected webservers sent it to me thru a shittily secured browser (IE). Viruses only happen to ppl who don't pay attention to what's coming in IMO, or are too trusting with attachments. I won't open an attachment unless the person has sent me a PM or email that they're going to do so before hand, what it is and the filesize. I also only accept attachments from trusted ppl. I've not gotten a virus in over 2 years. __________________ I happen to like the words "fuck", "cock", "pussy", "tits", "cunt", "twat", "shit" and even "bitch". As long as I am not using them to describe you, don't go telling me whether or not I can/should use them...that is, if you want me to continue refraining from using them to describe you. ~Prince

03-04-2004, 02:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
_the_wombat Tilted	Well that's great, just what we needed. At least my firewall and NAV will help protect my network.

03-04-2004, 11:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
BenChuy Insane Location: About 70 pixals above this...	It also sounds like the guys is very much in favor of govt. control of the internet, so they can "protect" us from such things. All while knowing every damn thing i do. Liberty or liability, i suppose is the begged question.

03-04-2004, 11:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
spived2 Desert Rat Location: Arizona	lets hope eventually all the viruses that are being sent to the masses destroy each other so us innocents (I use that loosly don't have to worry about them. __________________ "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V." - V

03-05-2004, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	Kids...when will they learn? __________________ Looking out the window, that's an act of war. Staring at my shoes, that's an act of war. Committing an act of war? Oh you better believe that's an act of war

03-06-2004, 12:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tholo Crazy	I think certain programmers need to get out more. __________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."

03-06-2004, 10:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
Schwan A boy and his dog Location: EU!	I can`t help the feeling that this crap is just kids playing. Even so, I`m lost as to how the problem should be dealt with.

03-08-2004, 09:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
BoomTruck Insane Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.	I'm still working on a 3-phase modem that can send a 7200 volt packet to virus writers. If I can just get the amps down..... __________________ Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.

03-08-2004, 10:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
skaterpunk The Ultimate Badass Location: Tampa	"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate public and privately owned computer systems, infecting them with viruses, and stealing materials for their own ends. These people, they are terrorists." Heh... so awesome. __________________ "The laws that keep us safe, these same laws condemn us to boredom. Without access to true chaos, we'll never have true peace. Unless everything can get worse, it won't get any better. This is all the stuff the Mommy used to tell him. She used to say, "The only frontier you have left is the world of intangibles. Everything else is sewn up too tight." Caged inside too many laws. By intangibles, she meant the Internet, movies, music, stories, art, rumors, computer programs, anything that isn't real. Virtual realities. Make-believe stuff. The culture. The unreal is more powerful than the real. Because nothing is as perfect as you can imagine it. Because it's only the intangible ideas, concepts, beliefs, fantasies that last. Stone crumbles. Wood rots. People, well, they die."