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PredeconInferno 02-22-2004 12:03 AM

Biggest badass
 
Okay, who do you think is the biggest badass in any story you've heard/read?

Mutant powers, force powers, and any type of magic powers is out. It has to be sheer human skill. Also, tell us a little about him.

If such is the case, my vote is on Aragorn. Granted, he had longevity, but he was a frickin' <B>ranger</B> I mean, c'mon. He was a badass.

If you don't think aragorn qualifies, I'd say that Raven (Dmytri Ravinoff) from <U>Snowcrash</U> is the biggest baddest badass.

high_way 02-22-2004 12:52 AM

eric draven from the crow.

the way he talks, the way he hunts, the way he kills.

skier 02-22-2004 02:43 AM

Edit: i did a remarkably poor job of reading. In terms of stories, I would have to go with Ivan Dalroi, Transfinite Man. He's one sick motherfucker.

Strange Famous 02-22-2004 05:12 AM

Acheron Hades (sic) From The Eyre Affair - he has a lot of really cool powers.

Baldrick 02-22-2004 06:38 AM

Sos the Rope - from Piers Anthony's "Battle Circle" books. Unbelievably badass...

krwlz 02-22-2004 06:43 AM

Thomas while he is possesed as a Valheru, in Raymond E Feist's Riftwar saga. At one point he dismembers a bunch of slaves, just because he wants to. If you ever read them, you will note that the Valheru in him would kill other valheru, and drink their blood, to gain their power.

Fun stuff.

Charlatan 02-22-2004 06:50 AM

My two biggest bad asses are already here:

Raven (anyone who has his own nuke is badass this guy would be bad ass even if he didn't have the nuke)
Aragorn (he is still mortal)

I don't think The Crow or Thomas count as their power is mystical in origin.

Nefir 02-22-2004 07:33 AM

Cohen the Barbarian from Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels. :D

Quote:

The greatest hero the Disc has ever produced, with an uncanny ability to get close to money. His father drove him out of the tribe when he was eleven and he has been living by his wits and other people's nerves ever since. When first encountered, he was a skinny, little 87-years-old; totally bald, with a beard almost down to his knees and a pair of matchsticks legs on which varicose veins had traced the map of a quite large city.
Cohen has only one working eye -the other is covered by a black patch. His thin body is a network of scars that you could play noughs and crosses on him, although your hand would be chopped off if you dared. His teeth quit long ago but, inspired by Twoflower, he now has a set of dentures made of troll's teeth, which are diamond. He also suffers from lumbago, arthritis, backache, piles and bad digestion, and smell strongly of peppermints.
Although he can read, after a fashion, he has never really mastered the pen and he still signs his name with an 'x', which he usually spells wrong. He is, nevertheless, claimed as the author of Inne Juste 7 Days I wille make You a Barbearian Hero!. There is some evidence that C.M.O.T. Dibbler was involved in this publication.
He rolls his own cigarettes, and often rides around on a horse which looks like a shrink-wrapped toast rack and has an hemorroid ring tied to the saddle.
Cohen, in fact, just goes on doing what he has always done. Many a younger oponent has challenged him in the belief that he can't be any good because he's so old, whereas a moment's thought would suggest that since he has become so old he must be very good indeed. He is also something of a philosopher. His answer, when asked what the greatest things in life, is 'hot water, good dentihstry and shoft lavatoty paper'.
When last heard of, Cohen had put together his Silver Horde of equally elderly men and in search of things like the above had conquered the Agatean Empire and was effectively the new Emperor. However, it is likely that he will not stay long in a job where the only treasure he can steal belongs to him anyway. Through his life he has lost. gambled or enjoyably wasted everything he has ever accumulated and it can't be long before the Celestial Throne has a new incumbent. One who doesn't mind washing occasionally.

saut 02-22-2004 08:00 AM

Huor, the greatest mortal warrior ever! Even though he was eventually captured and a curse was placed upon his family...

(from Tolkein's The Silmarillion)

Pragma 02-22-2004 11:00 AM

Solid Snake of Metal Gear Solid - he's not quite fully human, as there's the whole genetics thing, and the inability to reproduce. However, fucking badass.

And to follow up on the people above, I'll have to go with Raven as well. I love Snow Crash, awesome book. And just the fact that he cruises around with a nuke wired to him, very nicely done.

mystmarimatt 02-22-2004 11:34 AM

does it have to be from a book? Cause I'd say Shaft.

Fallen 02-22-2004 11:43 AM

I'd go with Artemis Entreri from "The Dark Elf" series. Definitely the most bad ass human character in any book I've ever read.

opackfan 02-22-2004 11:44 AM

The greatest Dwarf ever! Gimli son of Gloin! although Thorin was pretty badass too

World's King 02-22-2004 12:12 PM

Shaft.


Ma'Fucker.

ratbastid 02-22-2004 12:18 PM

Raven is the quintesential badass, for sure. The obsedion blade and the forhead tattoo ("Poor Impulse Control") are a great touch.

krwlz 02-22-2004 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Fallen
I'd go with Artemis Entreri from "The Dark Elf" series. Definitely the most bad ass human character in any book I've ever read.
Hmm... debatable. DOes he have to be badass all the time? Cuz Wulfgar kicks some serious ass.

Yea, I missed the mystical part, Thomas doesnt count.

titsmurf 02-22-2004 06:26 PM

Well, if we don't count Leroy Brown, I'd have to say Sean Connery in "The Rock" is the biggest badass.

WarWagon 02-22-2004 07:06 PM

Henry Rollins.

skysooner 02-22-2004 07:06 PM

Jason Bourne from the Robert Ludlum books.

BuddyHawks 02-22-2004 07:06 PM

http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...it.com/eq1.jpg

John Preston
Equilibrium


RoboBlaster 02-22-2004 07:24 PM

I think for me it would have to be Doc Holiday from Tombstone. To be that cool while still dying from TB...

yakimushi 02-22-2004 07:40 PM

Case, from Neuromancer (by Wm. Gibson).

Cyber badass.

VitaminH 02-22-2004 07:56 PM

How about Casey Jones from Ninja Turtles??? Anyone? HE WAS SO TOUGH!

opackfan 02-22-2004 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VitaminH
How about Casey Jones from Ninja Turtles??? Anyone? HE WAS SO TOUGH!
"Cricket!? Nobody understands cricket! You have to know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!"

KellyC 02-22-2004 09:30 PM

Mutant: I'd go with Magneto and Charles X-savier? (can't spell..sorry) and Jean Grey, Pheonix baby!!

I'd say Legolas would kick Aragorn's ass if they got into a fight.

Oh yeah..and Jet Li in Lethal Weapon 4. Did you see the part where he take Mel Gibson's gun apart in one swift move?

firevra 02-22-2004 09:32 PM

Shaft. No doubt.

PredeconInferno 02-22-2004 09:59 PM

Some of you people are cheating! NO POWERS!!!!!!!!!! (that means no elves, they're too mystical, makes it unfair for the human boys)

Oh, I just thought of another badass:

Jason Isaacs

Did you see him in "The Patriot?" my god he was bad ass. One awesome villain.

mattevil 02-22-2004 10:11 PM

Leon the Professional
Conan the Barbarian/Destroyer/Librarian
Snake Plisskin from EFNY
Ash from Evil Dead
Leonard Smalls from Rasing Arizona
Man with No Name from Dollars Trilogy
are all bad asses but I'll go with
Harmonica From Once upun a time in the west

high_way 02-23-2004 05:10 AM

ahh shit i just re-read the first post... i said eric draven cause i had just watched the movie....
i withdraw my previous answer


probs bolo yeung in blood sport

or uma thurman in kill bill

Phaenx 02-23-2004 05:26 AM

Conan the Barbarian. Who tells their own god to go to hell? A fucking badass, that's who.

But in terms of sheer human skill (this is actually more fictional), I'll go with the leader of the kingsguard in a song of ice and fire, the old guy, I don't remember his name. But he kicked ass.

Edit - Ser Barristen Selmy. Woo, hurray for remembering.

HugAPug 02-23-2004 06:41 AM

Roland the Gunslinger from Stephen King's Dark Tower series.

Biggest badass ever.

2kids1headache 02-23-2004 06:55 AM

There have been many an exceptional badass mentioned here. A recap of my favorites:

Roland, the Gunslinger
Snake Plissken
Leon, the Professional
Doc Holliday
Jason Bourne
Henry Rollins

Snake is the one that came to my mind first. He's a complete badass. Who else would have the balls to shut down the power for the entire world?

Ripsaw 02-23-2004 07:44 AM

Batman. He kicked Superman's ass. A mix of techincal know-how, physical skills, and deductive reasoning that makes him a formidable opponent.

My second would also probably be Artemis Entreri, but we can start a new thread to begin the RA Salvatore character debate.

twotimesadingo 02-23-2004 08:10 AM

I got all the way to the third to last post without seeing Roland Deschain's name, and I was honestly quite frightened and appalled.

But thank all that's good and holy, HugAPug and 2kids1headache know what's up.

Everyone who mentioned someone other than Roland of Gilead should kick their own asses. For shame!

EDIT: After trying to see other points of view for a few minutes, I still have to say that Roland is the preeminent hero, Romantic or otherwise.

Daval 02-23-2004 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by krwlz
Thomas while he is possesed as a Valheru, in Raymond E Feist's Riftwar saga. At one point he dismembers a bunch of slaves, just because he wants to. If you ever read them, you will note that the Valheru in him would kill other valheru, and drink their blood, to gain their power.

Fun stuff.



I would concur with this.

gilada 02-23-2004 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ripsaw
Batman. He kicked Superman's ass. A mix of techincal know-how, physical skills, and deductive reasoning that makes him a formidable opponent.
Can't belive it took that long for Batman to come up. Finally.

Bobaphat 02-23-2004 10:09 AM

Howard Roark from Ayn Rand's "the Fountainhead." A different kind of badass

Iliftrocks 02-23-2004 10:10 AM

That Shaft is one bad mutha......

hilbert25 02-23-2004 08:33 PM

Batman

Raven

Bobby Shaftoe - From Cryptonomicon, a good ol' all american badass.

Terry Funk, in real life. The dude was like 60 and pulling moonsaults

Date the Banana 02-23-2004 08:52 PM

Can't believe none of you have mentioned Chopper Reed! (or is it Reeve?) Australian Hitman, he once (well, I guess you can only do a thing like that once) chopped off his own ears to get transferred to a different cell block. Truly as bad of an ass as they come. One of Gibson's characters is based on him, too.

edit: its's Reed.


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