01-15-2004, 09:51 PM | #41 (permalink) | |
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Yeah. Her dumb ass signed the morality clause, she was stupid to do something which violated her contract, nothing more. |
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01-15-2004, 09:58 PM | #42 (permalink) |
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Don't do anything in public that you won't want the world to see.
And, yes, she should sue... her plastic surgeon!
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01-15-2004, 10:04 PM | #43 (permalink) |
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Unfortunatly, a person in the public eye has to live to diffrent standerds than the average goof ball on the beach. Unless, of course, you're a professional athelete. And, there was her contract.
The ironic thing is, her looks were probably part of what got her hired in the first place, however sexist the practice is. What she should do is get a good agent and use the publicity as a springboard to bigger things.
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01-16-2004, 07:18 AM | #44 (permalink) |
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If you sign a contract, you should live up to the contract, as long as the other party to the contract is living up to their end.
(Unless you are a professional athelete, of course, then you should feel free to hold out in order to force your team to renegotiate/trade/whatever you want.) -Smarm |
01-16-2004, 07:39 AM | #45 (permalink) |
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Somebody add NSFW next to the picture link...
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01-16-2004, 08:01 AM | #46 (permalink) |
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My company can fire me for drunk driving. If I lost my license, I can't drive a company car legally which is sometimes required for the job, etc. The point is that they do have a right to do this. I agreed to it when I started my job. If I do something stupid while on the company dime (i.e. pulling a Mike Price), I deserve to be fired. If I do something on my own time that doesn't effect the company, they would have no right to do something about it. She was just dumb to do something like this. If she really feels the need to go naked, there are lots of places that cater to this where it would be perfectly fine to do.
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01-16-2004, 08:41 AM | #48 (permalink) |
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Can't say I like the attitude by the station. Then again, if she wanted the job, I expect she had to sign the clause. Whether the contract would hold up in court would be interesting, as it's not between equals and IIRC such contracts may not be legal.
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01-16-2004, 09:35 AM | #51 (permalink) |
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Yet another classic case of alcohol induced intelligence. I bet she remembered her morals clause most of the time, it's a part of the biz, but once the old brain gets lubed up it doesn't operate well.
You have to consider these things when you decide how you are going to live your life. Being sorry and regretful doesn't do much. She should have thought of this when the partying started. The boobs? Well, we all make mistakes. I bet they were a big part of her job aquisition, sexist or not, we all know that's still how it works a lot of the time. Ya wrap em up and get a good looking front end and you're in. Just as an aside, how many of you actually know what your job contract states? Did you just sign it, happy to be employed? I know what mine states and act accordingly. Just my 2 cents.
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01-16-2004, 10:31 AM | #52 (permalink) |
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You all are brutal...I love it!!!!
Yes, she should have been fired for breach of contract. However, if there was no contract in place, I feel she should have a right to do whatever she wants with her body. I think the U.S. has so many hangups about the nekkid human body still. If this happened in Australia, Brazil, or any other country that has gotten over the fact that a beautiful human body should be shown, and not hidden, then there wouldn't even be an issue. Granted, if I was standing in front or her nekkid bod, I wouldn't know whether I should fondle and suck on her boobies, or strap on the 12 ounce gloves and slap around them bags of overinflated leather.
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01-16-2004, 12:36 PM | #55 (permalink) | |
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01-16-2004, 02:50 PM | #57 (permalink) | |
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Very few women out there have perfect bodies and I admire her for her courage to rejoice a bit in being a sexy woman. (Sexy women come in all shapes and sizes.) While i agree they aren't the most attractive boobs going, they aren't the worst either. Her getting fired really sucks too in my eyes. She was doing this on her own time and it's no-one's business. I don't see how showing off what god gave her should be a crime punishable by being fired. That's just wrong on general principle. Would she have been fired for doing a cover story for "Guns and Ammo" magazine (if such a rag exists)??? I doubt it, and to me glorifying guns is more morally reprehensible than showing off your body. Tell her to apply for a job at City TV in Toronto. We will take her and she won't have to sign any such stupid morality clause. We pride ourselves on being a live and let live city as long as you don't hurt anybody. http://toronto.citytv.com/ |
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01-19-2004, 12:25 AM | #60 (permalink) |
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Even if she didn't sign a contract I would have fired her ass. It made her look bad on behalf of the company. If that is the lifesyle you want, don't be in the public eye.
EDIT: Yeah, horribly fake tits. 100% correct Lurkette...
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01-19-2004, 01:51 AM | #61 (permalink) | |
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They don't give a crap about her personal integrity. They only care about the station's integrity, which is damaged by her actions if they keep her on. After all, which is more likely to impress the average viewer: "Channel 6 news: With regional Emmy award winning anchor Jane Doe" or "Channel 6 news: With barroom wet t-shirt contest winning anchor Jane Doe" If you have a problem with employers telling you not to run around naked in public, don't get a job that's in the public eye. Oh and btw, in this industry there is rarely a successful wrongful termination suit, especially with anchors. Anchors can and are fired for anything. Viewers don't like the way they dress, the way they talk, the way they look. News directors decide they want fresh faces on camera. Media consultants convince station management that newer, edgier anchors are needed, so the current ones are canned. All of this is legal and there's nothing an anchor can do about it. There is no WAY this anchor could ever win a wrongful termination suit over this incident, even if she had never signed a morality clause. Last edited by shakran; 01-19-2004 at 01:53 AM.. |
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01-19-2004, 07:35 AM | #62 (permalink) |
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No.
Besides I think this is just a lot of bullshit about nothing. There's almost always someone with a camera to take a picture of you if you do anything that the stiffshits don't like. Besides, I might actually bother with watching the local news if I knew the anchor had her tits all over the net. But then that's just the ol' immoral me.
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01-19-2004, 04:21 PM | #65 (permalink) |
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Yeah, I tend to agree that if she signed the contract then she should have been aware that her employer would be likely to enforce it in the case of her turning up nude on the internet... I mean, if you're gunna appear nude in public these days then its gunna turn up on the net... and if you have signed a morality clause then its your own stupid fault for not thinking things through before you take your clothes off... not that I think public nudity should be cause for termination of her contract, of course, but if she signed the clause, then well, that's the way it is...
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01-20-2004, 12:33 AM | #66 (permalink) | |
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I think she should have been fired, she tarnished the image of the local channel, and the network in general. Not only that, but the contract is prolly pretty rock solid! |
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01-20-2004, 07:26 AM | #67 (permalink) |
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I find it very hypocritical for a news station that hires people based on their sex appeal to fire someone based on their sex appeal.
In fact, I find it surprising that a company that hires people for high-paying jobs based mostly on their appearance would even presume to judge others on their morals. Having said that, I think she could likely win a lawsuit, but it would probably be in her best interest to keep a low profile and pursue a career elsewhere. In two months, nobody will remember her.
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01-20-2004, 10:42 AM | #68 (permalink) |
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To flash or not to flash...
As someone said previously, anchors and reporters are the public face of a television station. Youngstown is a medium market and therefore a stepping stone to larger markets. If she worked there for 10 years (first of all she can't be that great or she would have moved on to a larger market ) she has probably put in a great deal of community involvement time: fundraising, socializing, etc. These things are done to bolster her name, but also to bolster her station's ratings and likely part of her contract. She gets paid more as a result than others who are probably harder-working and consequently, she is expected to do these things. Soooo, going out and showing her boobs, well, everyone has agreed was not good community service nor was it appropriate for someone who is compensated for making sure people associate a certain station with them. This is not the publicity a station signs up for when they have their anchors sign contracts. And BTW, CEO's and other high-profile professionals sign the same indemnity clauses so it's not exclusive to media environments.
Bottom line - fair's fair - can't have it both ways. Can't be the wholesome "friendly neighbor" face to the community and flash your boobs. Same thing as wondering why, with all those piercings on your face, etc., despite your outstanding performance, Giant Corporation Blah Blah Blah won't promote you and won't ever move you from that cubicle in the back of the back of the room in the basement. May not be fair, may not reflect your abilities, but life ain't fair. Gotta choose - do you sign the dotted line, allowing yourself to be judged for the want of money and respect, or do you want to flash your ugly boobs?
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01-22-2004, 03:28 AM | #72 (permalink) |
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Well, in *my* country... (yes, here he goes again!)
...a contract like that would be worth exactly jack shit. If it contains a clause that is against the law, which this one would be, a judge would nullify it. You see, we have a thing called "privacy" here... OTOH, over here, she might have been forced to resign too. It happened to a local official the other day, after press reports about his visits to prostitutes, and his surfing for porn on a government-provided computer. None of it was illegal, but his actions, and the resulting loss of authority, made his resignation inevitable. (interestingly enough, over 60% of people polled thought he should have stayed on!) --- it's not the end of the story, by the way, as he'll be sueing the paper for slander and invasion of privacy, a case he should easily win. |
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