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The_Dude · 11-18-2003, 05:05 PM

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SMU pledge critical after chugging water
Associated Press

DALLAS -- A 21-year-old student at Southern Methodist University remained hospitalized in critical condition Monday after chugging water in an off-campus competition with fraternity members.

Braylon Curry, a pledge with Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity, drank an unknown amount of water from a gallon container early Saturday morning and was hospitalized hours later after becoming dazed and incoherent, Dallas police said.

Authorities said they were continuing their investigation but had not ruled out hazing.

"Preliminarily it would appear so, but until we know the details, we can't make that final judgment," said Jim Caswell, vice president of student affairs.

SMU officials and Dallas police still were trying to determine details of the incident Monday. According to a police report, some alcohol was consumed at the competition but Curry drank only water.

The fraternity, which only this spring was reinstated at SMU after a three-year suspension for hazing, has been suspended pending the outcome of the investigation, Caswell said.

Caswell said he does not know how many of the fraternity's seven members were at the competition. He refused to discuss specifics on the fraternity's prior hazing incident.

The fraternity's national office in Baltimore declined comment.

"This was a complete surprise, and in allowing them to return, there was a complete understanding they would comply with all the policies and their own national policies," Caswell said.

The day before the incident, the school held an anti-hazing event on campus and produced a half-page advertisement that defined hazing and outlined its consequences, Caswell said.

Curry, a junior business major, transferred from Austin College to SMU this fall.

Excessive consumption of water can be fatal, causing pulmonary edema, a condition in which water enters the lungs, and hyponatremia, a sodium imbalance brought on by excess fluid consumption.

The average person can consume up to 15 liters of water in a 24-hour period, but drinking too much too quickly can swell brain cells and cause head pressure, said Dr. Greg Blomquist, an emergency room doctor at Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas.

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a water drinking contest? what kinda frat is this? must've been an extremely religious frat or something.

GuttersnipeXL · 11-18-2003, 06:15 PM

Shoot. The kid would have been better off swillin' some beer! At least then he wouldn't be known as the frat guy who got too messed up on water. Ha!

Also, somewhere along the lines I heard that excessive water could get you "high". Something like the Oxygen content in so much water can get ya. That's probably why he felt dazed. Anyone else heard of this happening? Gettin' messed up off of Oxygen that is?

Sledge · 11-18-2003, 06:16 PM

... wow.

Alcohol or not, stupid people will find a way to be stupid...

Averett · 11-18-2003, 06:46 PM

There was a local kid at some SUNY school who died from a case like this. Too much water.

Kaos · 11-18-2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by GuttersnipeXL
Shoot. The kid would have been better off swillin' some beer! At least then he wouldn't be known as the frat guy who got too messed up on water. Ha!

Also, somewhere along the lines I heard that excessive water could get you "high". Something like the Oxygen content in so much water can get ya. That's probably why he felt dazed. Anyone else heard of this happening? Gettin' messed up off of Oxygen that is?

Ya, I have heard you can get "drunk" from water. This wouldn't be the first case of it happening. I can't remember the medical specifics of how it happens.

wraithhibn · 11-18-2003, 08:04 PM

alpha is a black fraternity, and I know the ones here do a good bit of hazing. this is just absurd though.

dragon2fire · 11-18-2003, 08:13 PM

to much water

omg

thanks dude you made my day

jw_toyboy · 11-18-2003, 08:32 PM

I know these guys who insit on chugging a 2 liter bottle of Coke before every drinking session - for some reason they think it helps cure hangovers by lining the stomach or some shit.

Bloodslick · 11-18-2003, 10:00 PM

The liver and kidneys can only take so much of anything before they get overloaded, I would think. That sodium imbalance that the article mentioned wouldn't be anything to scoff at, either.

O, stupidity, how you confound me.

Fire · 11-18-2003, 11:19 PM

-NEWS FLASH-

FRAT EXCEEDS PREVIOUS STUPIDITY STANDARDS

Jimbob666 · 11-19-2003, 12:48 AM

Why is it significant that this is a black fraternity?

dy156 · 11-19-2003, 09:41 AM

I don't want to try to read their minds, but I bet I can. They were probably trying to haze safely, and thought chugging water, while unpleasant, wouldn't be as bad as making them chug beer, like was probably done prior to their banishment. Besides, they can tell the administration and their nationals that their pledgeship is dry- no alcohol.
I had a friend at a very religious school, and you would be suprised at the creativity shown in hazing "effectively" without any alcohol.
However, I doubt that religious reasons were behind this incident not involving alcohol. SMU is not all that Methodist. Many national fraternities are advocating "dry" pledgeships. I think it's a good idea, but maybe they should advocate "safe" pledging instead.

Fallon · 11-19-2003, 09:51 AM

Just like anything, drinking something in excess causes problems, as someone said, the kidneys and such can't take all of the extra water and stuff. I remember being told that you don't want to drink to much water, but I don't remember the whole story. I think it's something to do that to much water gets into the blood stream, which allows less oxygen to circulate the blood stream or something along those lines.

Conclamo Ludus · 11-19-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Fallon
Just like anything, drinking something in excess causes problems, as someone said, the kidneys and such can't take all of the extra water and stuff. I remember being told that you don't want to drink to much water, but I don't remember the whole story. I think it's something to do that to much water gets into the blood stream, which allows less oxygen to circulate the blood stream or something along those lines.

Water actually gets its way into the lungs causing the person to "drown" in a way. Its usually how deaths on "ecstasy" occur. The person drinks more water than their body can handle and end up in a coma.

11-18-2003, 06:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
GuttersnipeXL Giggity Giggity!! Location: N'York	Shoot. The kid would have been better off swillin' some beer! At least then he wouldn't be known as the frat guy who got too messed up on water. Ha! Also, somewhere along the lines I heard that excessive water could get you "high". Something like the Oxygen content in so much water can get ya. That's probably why he felt dazed. Anyone else heard of this happening? Gettin' messed up off of Oxygen that is? __________________ When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. HST

11-18-2003, 06:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	There was a local kid at some SUNY school who died from a case like this. Too much water. __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

11-18-2003, 08:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
wraithhibn Dopefish Location: the 'Ville	alpha is a black fraternity, and I know the ones here do a good bit of hazing. this is just absurd though. __________________ If you won't dress like the Victoria Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

11-18-2003, 10:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bloodslick Loser Location: a darkened back alley	The liver and kidneys can only take so much of anything before they get overloaded, I would think. That sodium imbalance that the article mentioned wouldn't be anything to scoff at, either. O, stupidity, how you confound me. Last edited by Bloodslick; 11-18-2003 at 10:03 PM..

11-18-2003, 11:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	-NEWS FLASH- FRAT EXCEEDS PREVIOUS STUPIDITY STANDARDS __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens

11-18-2003, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sledge Pasture Bedtime	... wow. Alcohol or not, stupid people will find a way to be stupid...

11-18-2003, 08:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	to much water omg thanks dude you made my day

11-18-2003, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
jw_toyboy Tilted Location: Australia	I know these guys who insit on chugging a 2 liter bottle of Coke before every drinking session - for some reason they think it helps cure hangovers by lining the stomach or some shit.

11-19-2003, 12:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jimbob666 Tilted	Why is it significant that this is a black fraternity?

11-19-2003, 09:41 AM	#12 (permalink)
dy156 cookie Location: in the backwoods	I don't want to try to read their minds, but I bet I can. They were probably trying to haze safely, and thought chugging water, while unpleasant, wouldn't be as bad as making them chug beer, like was probably done prior to their banishment. Besides, they can tell the administration and their nationals that their pledgeship is dry- no alcohol. I had a friend at a very religious school, and you would be suprised at the creativity shown in hazing "effectively" without any alcohol. However, I doubt that religious reasons were behind this incident not involving alcohol. SMU is not all that Methodist. Many national fraternities are advocating "dry" pledgeships. I think it's a good idea, but maybe they should advocate "safe" pledging instead.

11-19-2003, 09:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Location: RI	Just like anything, drinking something in excess causes problems, as someone said, the kidneys and such can't take all of the extra water and stuff. I remember being told that you don't want to drink to much water, but I don't remember the whole story. I think it's something to do that to much water gets into the blood stream, which allows less oxygen to circulate the blood stream or something along those lines.