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Thraeryn · 09-24-2003, 02:09 PM

Thought I'd post this, since I was glad to see that someone else remembers. President Schwarzenegger
I can see it a lot easier than Reagan.

Cobalt_60 · 09-24-2003, 02:14 PM

Yes, something like this could definately happen. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen a Schwarzenegger flick. And when voting, boing! That name is easy to spot and you know who he is.

twotimesadingo · 09-24-2003, 02:14 PM

sheer craziness.

yournamehere · 09-24-2003, 02:15 PM

Well - Ronnie was born here; Ahnold wasn't - there's the difference. It can't happen.

water_boy1999 · 09-24-2003, 02:23 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but you only have to be a US Citizen....you don't have to be born here. I thought you had to have a certain number of years residency in the US to qualify. Lemme check on that and i'll get back to you.

meepa · 09-24-2003, 02:27 PM

Presidents have to be born here.

water_boy1999 · 09-24-2003, 02:28 PM

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/wi_rep_et_all_pres.htm

My bad.......found it.

Thraeryn · 09-24-2003, 03:01 PM

Dude. You folks didn't bother to finish reading the page. There's a Senator who has ALREADY proposed an amendment to the Constitution that would allow folks who have been naturalized citizens for 20 years, I think it is, run for President.

THAT could happen.

Thraeryn · 09-24-2003, 03:04 PM

Okay, here we go.

Quote:

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Orrin Hatch wants to terminate the constitutional prohibition against foreign-born citizens such as Arnold Schwarzenegger and others from becoming president.
Article II of the Constitution says that, "No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president."
Hatch is seeking to amend the Constitution to remove the ban, allowing anyone who has been a citizen of the United States for two decades to run for the country's highest office.
"This restriction has become an anachronism that is decidedly un-American," Hatch, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and one-time presidential candidate, said when he introduced the change last week.
But retired University of Alabama history professor Forrest McDonald said the prohibition made sense when it was included in the Constitution "and I'm not sure the reasoning is entirely outdated."
He said that 15 years before the Constitution was written, foreign operatives from Russia, Prussia and Austria conspired to get a favorable monarch elected to lead Poland. Once in place, the country was divided up among the three powers.
"The American Fathers were acutely sensitive to the prospect," McDonald said. He said it is unlikely, although not inconceivable, that something like that could happen today.
His other argument against the amendment: Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The "Terminator" star has been flirting with running as a Republican for governor of California, and with money, charisma and name recognition could make a strong candidate for president -- but he was born in Austria.
"I'm scared of the man," McDonald said.
Hatch spokeswoman Margarita Tapia said the bill wasn't crafted to help Schwarzenegger.
"It was a policy judgment. It wasn't associated with a particular individual," she said.
Arkansas Rep. Vic Snyder, a Democrat, is sponsoring a similar version in the House that would require foreign-born citizens to wait 35 years before becoming president. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., sponsored a constitutional amendment during the last Congress, but it didn't make it through the House Judiciary Committee.

And I'd just like to point out that, if the candidate follows the Libertarian Party platform, I don't really care if they're from Mars. (Hey, maybe they know it works on Mars.)

manalone · 09-24-2003, 03:06 PM

hmmm president arnold.

I seem to remember that Reagan disappeared off the political stage long before he came back as shock president. It all depends on how the Terminator does as Gov. (if Gray Davis is recalled and if he wilns)

Psivage · 09-24-2003, 03:17 PM

I would move to Iraq if Arnold ever becomes president.

rogue49 · 09-24-2003, 03:20 PM

I doubt there would be a Constitutional Amendment,
just to allow Naturalized citizens to be President.

Do you know what it takes to change the Constitution?

It would take way too long, and there would be too much opposition.
The person in question wouldn't keep their popularity that long,
and it would take too much money to keep it going.

Forget about it.

JusticeForPhat · 09-24-2003, 03:26 PM

on the note of celebrity politicians . . .

I forgot where I was reading that if Oprah ever ran for president she would win in a heartbeat, and I'd have to agree. Name recognition is key.

I'll see if I can dig up that article.

uncle phil · 09-24-2003, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49
I doubt there would be a Constitutional Amendment,
just to allow Naturalized citizens to be President.

Do you know what it takes to change the Constitution?

It would take way too long, and there would be too much opposition.
The person in question wouldn't keep their popularity that long,
and it would take too much money to keep it going.

Forget about it.

Quote:

Originally posted by JusticeForPhat
on the note of celebrity politicians . . .

I forgot where I was reading that if Oprah ever ran for president she would win in a heartbeat, and I'd have to agree. Name recognition is key.

I'll see if I can dig up that article.

rogue is right...and if oprah were ever to be considered for a nomination for any party, i would consider moving to uranus (not sure of the pronunciation...)

Stare At The Sun · 09-24-2003, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psivage
I would move to Iraq if Arnold ever becomes president.

Can i come w/ you?

Psivage · 09-24-2003, 05:01 PM

Halx · 09-24-2003, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JusticeForPhat
on the note of celebrity politicians . . .

I forgot where I was reading that if Oprah ever ran for president she would win in a heartbeat, and I'd have to agree. Name recognition is key.

I'll see if I can dig up that article.

Come to think of it, I think Oprah may be a good president. That is, until I supplant her.

Averett · 09-24-2003, 05:26 PM

President Arrrnnnuuuld?

My ass is moving to Canada. As well as the rest of me.

anleja · 09-24-2003, 06:41 PM

I want the Conan O'Brian Arnold Schwarzenegger to be president.

"No, YOU don't have any seeds!"
"No, YOU are Sylvester Stallone!"

(I hope this post makes sense to at least one person here.)

bundy · 09-24-2003, 07:24 PM

this thought excites me immensely.

if Arnie can become President, then maybe theres a chance he will name Steve Crocodile Hunter Irwin as the leader of the province of Australia.

battlemouth · 09-24-2003, 07:41 PM

i would enjoy him holding some political power of some sorts

Midlandmadman · 09-25-2003, 04:26 AM

Man It would be great.........

"..... as forien minister of France our President feels that the US should.....blaa blaa blaa.... "

" Mr Forien minister of the US how do you respond to that???"

"OH YEAH???? WELL,!!!!!!"
"Our President can kick your Presidents ASS!!!!!!!!"

How fun would that be????

Sapper · 09-25-2003, 04:55 AM

Lol. Having to be born american to be president was such a crock anyways. Talk about archaic law!

iamjero · 09-25-2003, 05:18 AM

What makes Arnold any worse than the other lying, cheating, low down, dirty, rotten scoundrels we call politicans? It irks me that people will sit around complaining about one politician in favor of another. They are all screwing equally.

Fremen · 09-25-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iamjero
What makes Arnold any worse than the other lying, cheating, low down, dirty, rotten scoundrels we call politicans?

Because he throws in Hollywoodisms in just about everything he says nowadays.

spived2 · 09-25-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psivage
I would move to Iraq if Arnold ever becomes president.

Heh bite your tongue, it sucks here.

Anyways, who knows? maybe arnie would be a great president. anyone know if he himself has mentioned running for presidency?

hunnychile · 09-25-2003, 05:20 PM

Again, the candidate must be an American born citizen. HELLO!!!

Nuf said.

Cruz Bustamante will do a fine job and protect the people of lower income. If only they can find a way to actually make the rich pay their fair share. And please, we must keep California from falling into the hands of the GOP.

Cynthetiq · 09-25-2003, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapper
Lol. Having to be born american to be president was such a crock anyways. Talk about archaic law!

yeah cuz the Peruvian Prime Minister who was Japanese did such a bangup job done there. Interests for the people that live there... no carpet baggers.. you hear that Hillary???

Cynthetiq · 09-25-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rogue49
I doubt there would be a Constitutional Amendment,
just to allow Naturalized citizens to be President.

Do you know what it takes to change the Constitution?

It would take way too long, and there would be too much opposition.
The person in question wouldn't keep their popularity that long,
and it would take too much money to keep it going.

Forget about it.

Remember the ERA??? yeah.... that took forever...and then it didn't pass.

09-24-2003, 02:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Thraeryn Loser	It could happen! Thought I'd post this, since I was glad to see that someone else remembers. President Schwarzenegger I can see it a lot easier than Reagan.

09-24-2003, 02:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
twotimesadingo Psycho Location: that place with the thing	sheer craziness. __________________ I'll be the one to protect you from your enemies and all your demons. I'll be the one to protect you from a will to survive and voice of reason. I'll be the one to protect you from your enemies and your choices, son. They're one and the same I must isolate you, isolate and save you from yourself." - A Perfect Circle

09-24-2003, 02:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
yournamehere Invisible Location: tentative, at best	Well - Ronnie was born here; Ahnold wasn't - there's the difference. It can't happen. __________________ If you want to avoid 95% of internet spelling errors: "If your ridiculous pants are too loose, you're definitely going to lose them. Tell your two loser friends over there that they're going to lose theirs, too." It won't hurt your fashion sense, either.

09-24-2003, 02:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	Correct me if I am wrong, but you only have to be a US Citizen....you don't have to be born here. I thought you had to have a certain number of years residency in the US to qualify. Lemme check on that and i'll get back to you. __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson

09-24-2003, 02:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
water_boy1999 Fly em straight! Location: Above and Beyond	http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/wi_rep_et_all_pres.htm My bad.......found it. __________________ Doh!!!! -Homer Simpson

09-24-2003, 02:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cobalt_60 Addict	Yes, something like this could definately happen. I'm pretty sure everyone has seen a Schwarzenegger flick. And when voting, boing! That name is easy to spot and you know who he is.

09-24-2003, 02:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
meepa Insane	Presidents have to be born here.

09-24-2003, 03:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Thraeryn Loser	Dude. You folks didn't bother to finish reading the page. There's a Senator who has ALREADY proposed an amendment to the Constitution that would allow folks who have been naturalized citizens for 20 years, I think it is, run for President. THAT could happen.

09-24-2003, 03:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
manalone Once upon a time...	hmmm president arnold. I seem to remember that Reagan disappeared off the political stage long before he came back as shock president. It all depends on how the Terminator does as Gov. (if Gray Davis is recalled and if he wilns) __________________ -- Man Alone ======= Abstainer: a weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

09-24-2003, 03:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Psivage Psycho	I would move to Iraq if Arnold ever becomes president.

09-24-2003, 03:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	I doubt there would be a Constitutional Amendment, just to allow Naturalized citizens to be President. Do you know what it takes to change the Constitution? It would take way too long, and there would be too much opposition. The person in question wouldn't keep their popularity that long, and it would take too much money to keep it going. Forget about it.

09-24-2003, 03:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
JusticeForPhat Crazy Location: Philly	on the note of celebrity politicians . . . I forgot where I was reading that if Oprah ever ran for president she would win in a heartbeat, and I'd have to agree. Name recognition is key. I'll see if I can dig up that article.

09-24-2003, 05:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	President Arrrnnnuuuld? My ass is moving to Canada. As well as the rest of me. __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

09-24-2003, 06:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	I want the Conan O'Brian Arnold Schwarzenegger to be president. "No, YOU don't have any seeds!" "No, YOU are Sylvester Stallone!" (I hope this post makes sense to at least one person here.)

09-24-2003, 07:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	this thought excites me immensely. if Arnie can become President, then maybe theres a chance he will name Steve Crocodile Hunter Irwin as the leader of the province of Australia. __________________ Ohayo!!!

09-24-2003, 07:41 PM	#21 (permalink)
battlemouth Robot Lovin' Location: Boston	i would enjoy him holding some political power of some sorts __________________ like a bullet through a flock of doves

09-25-2003, 04:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
Midlandmadman Redwing fan extraordinaire Location: Michigan	Man It would be great......... "..... as forien minister of France our President feels that the US should.....blaa blaa blaa.... " " Mr Forien minister of the US how do you respond to that???" "OH YEAH???? WELL,!!!!!!" "Our President can kick your Presidents ASS!!!!!!!!" How fun would that be???? __________________ Its good to be back.

09-25-2003, 04:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
Sapper Insane Location: The Internet	Lol. Having to be born american to be president was such a crock anyways. Talk about archaic law! __________________ rm -f /bin/laden

09-25-2003, 05:18 AM	#24 (permalink)
iamjero Insane Location: New Orleans/Oakland/San Diego/Chicago	What makes Arnold any worse than the other lying, cheating, low down, dirty, rotten scoundrels we call politicans? It irks me that people will sit around complaining about one politician in favor of another. They are all screwing equally. __________________ "Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't allow our enemies to have guns, why should we allow them to have ideas?" - Joseph Stalin

09-25-2003, 05:20 PM	#27 (permalink)
hunnychile Alien Anthropologist Location: Between Boredom and Nirvana	Again, the candidate must be an American born citizen. HELLO!!! Nuf said. Cruz Bustamante will do a fine job and protect the people of lower income. If only they can find a way to actually make the rich pay their fair share. And please, we must keep California from falling into the hands of the GOP. __________________ "I need compassion, understanding and chocolate." - NJB