The_Dude

I hate when people do that.

I was riding in the campus shuttle and the guy sitting near me stood up for a girl. I was like GOD, now I'm gonna have to follow suite. But I didnt, even though I'm sure I got a lot of dirty looks.

I believe that men and women are equal and that they shouldnt just get the seat cuz of their sex. by standing up, the guy is expression inferiority of the girl. i dont think i would take a seat like that if i were a woman.

however, I would and will give up seats for disabled persons and people carrying a big load.

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Cynthetiq

not pregnant women or elderly? that's what most people in NYC do.. both men AND women

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The_Dude

yes, that is another exception.

you can classify pregnant woman as "a person carrying a big load" .

and yes, i would also stand up for an elderly person.

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Batman976

Woohoo! Chivalry is dead! Time to send out the memo.

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R-Dubb604

yeah, giving up your seat for an elderly or disabled person is different. I dont think ive ever stood up and gave my seat away to someone just because they were a female.

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Psivage

I would it is only polite, but then again I probaly grew up in a differnt time.

drawerfixer

I'm a youngster, but I'll give up my seat to a woman if she is elderly, pregnant, tired-looking, or hot.

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Flesh

well if she's hot, i'd invite her to sit on my lap

Midnight_Son

I always give up my seat to a woman, it's not in any way saying I'm inferior. Its called being a gentleman.

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Sleepyjack

yeah i stand up for anyone else, be them elderly, big load/kids, women and so on. I only wouldn't stand up for other younger guys who could stand for themselves, they'd probably take that as an insult anyway???

Normally if the bus is getting loaded up i stand up anyway and just go near the door. That may be selfish on my behalf cause i want to get out first and also don't want to get in the predicament of to stand or not.

Although I don't really mind standing up as you burn more energy that way, maybe when i get older i wont like standing too long.

yournamehere

You might think this is strange, seeing as how I started the "Pregnant women - parking spaces" thread, but I would never sit while a lady was forced to stand.
And yes - I think there's a difference.

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Flesh

equal rights!

Averett

Bingo!

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spectre

cnor beat me to it.

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glasscutter43

If you get up and give a woman your seat, you can stand close to her and look down her shirt. Nobody sits for free.

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G_Whiz

The "rules" of courtesy may have been written in a different time, but that doesn't mean they are obsolete. Equal rights has nothing to do with courtesy.

I always offer my seat to a woman, if she chooses not to take it fine. But it was the "rule" that I learned as a child and my father would come back from the grave if I wasn't courteous.

This is where some people get off about our society going to hell because we've given up on courteous behaivors. I differ with them. Societal rules will change, but I will live by the rules I grew up with because they are part of my value system.

I trained my children to follow those rules too. Now, I'm working on my grandchildren. They may behave differently when I'm not around. But when I'm there, they live within the rules of courtesy that I learned.

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cnor hit it on the head.

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joe100

If I have been sitting for awhile and the bus is full I usually get up and stand.

Let somebody else who is more tired have the seat for awhile.

Batman976

This is pretty much what I meant in my post. I should have mentioned that I was being sarcastic. I forgot how hard it is to translate sarcasm on the internet.

filtherton

So do all you gentlemen open doors for just ladies too? I know many ladies who resent that kind of "chivalry" for the same reason cited by The Dude

I'll stand up for ye olde person or ye pregnant lady, or ye lady with a bunch of groceries, and ye handicapped. I won't stand up for someone just because they have a vagina, though. "Chivalry" or not, that just seems silly. I wouldn't lay my jacket across a puddle either.

Charlatan

If I am the first person to the door I will open it and hold the door for the person coming after me... man or woman. It's just polite.

As for getting up and giving someone a seat... I will give it to pregnant, elderly, disabled, etc... a woman? For the most part yes.

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EeOh1

Amen. I'm with you, and I'm a teenager. No one is inferior and chivalry is not dead.

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a2k

I do the same with a door - I always hold it open for the person behind me. This got me in trouble a few times in college, when women thought they were getting treated differently and their womyn's studies prof's had told them not to accept it.

numberfive

I open doors for people and I give up my seat to ladies, the elderly, etc. It's what I was taught and it just seems right.

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krwlz

Chivalry was dead a long time ago... Probably aboit 100 yrs or less after it was created...

On that note, No I dont think I would stand up just because the person was female. /sarcassm*If they were female and I thought it would get me somewhere maybe...*

rainheart

I think if your motive behind giving up a seat for just some girl is to try and hook up with her, then you're a moron.

Otherwise it's your choice.
And if people are giving you dirty looks, then they are morons too.
And I get disgusted when people give you dirty looks because you didn't do something for her just because she's a girl. Please.

If you want to practice chivalry go attend a renaissance fair.

LutherMac

I still find myself giving my seat up to women, as well as opening car doors, and holding doors open as well.....

I guess chilvary isn't dead in my case..

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spectre

Yes, I do. No one's ever given me a hard time about holding the door for them.

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The_Dude

I open doors for the person following me in and I expect that person to do the same person behind them.

I'll do it regardless of sex or any other characteristic of the person following me in.

as for seats, can somebody tell me why women cant stand when men can?

i still think it's expression of inferiority to a woman by standing up.

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filtherton

I think we can all agree that there are double standards in our society when it comes to men and women, right? If you ONLY hold open doors FOR WOMEN, that is moderately sexist, right. When you get up on a bus ONLY FOR A WOMAN, isn't the implication that, "Whoa, ma'am, here you sit down, because you'll need to rest your pretty little legs. No, don't worry about me, I'm a man, I can handle it". Maybe that's not what is going on in your head, but some people look at it like that. And if i were treated like that as a matter of custom, i'd probably feel demeaned.
Another way to think about it, you're letting someone take your place for the sole reason that they have a vagina. I don't have a vagina, i can't sit down.

bundy

absolutely correct.
i open doors as well, its not a conscious decision, it just happens.

i´ve never had a girl not appreciate gentlemanly behaviour.

**edit - oh, and don´t forget, manners maketh the man.

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collide

joe100's got the right idea. If there's someone in obvious need to sit down, I'd give up my seat. No one's obligated to stand up unless it's required by law (which is the case for the elderly where I live), but if you're feeling particularly courteous, I don't see any harm in it (other than making others feel guilty and selfish, heh).

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ktthequeen

What about if they're a female on crutches?

In college, I got a badly sprained ankle...and still, noone gave up their seat EVER. (Except one time a girl gave up her seat, while tons a people - males and females alike - looked at me like I was an annoyance and didn't deserve the space in the bus that I took up.)

sixate

I guess I'm not a gentleman.
I wouldn't get up for anyone. Sorry, I'm a fucking jerk.

lady

Chicks like that piss me off.

Ditto

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blackdas

Fuck that...she can stand live everyone else. if it's my girlfriend or a friend then I will do it, but if its a random woman I see no reason to do so.

QuasiMojo

But She's a girl....


like yer sis

or yer Mom.

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Astrocloud

Okay this is going to sound strange.

I walked into a bar tonight and I could see the perfect seat in the crouded bar. I could look right through the inner-door window and see the other patrons crouded around the perfect empty seat.

But then some older woman was walking out and I HAD to open the door for her. After waiting for her to take the seat, my opportunity was lost... the seat was taken.

I wonder how many others would have pushed passed that lady and getten the good bar seat... But then again I put these in the same position that wouldn't stand up for a girl.

just an old 34 yr old,

Eric