No Shirt, [No Shoes,] No Problem
 

Got to talking to some humans yesterday at my institution of higher learning and aside from the usual whining about academic hurdles and wasted weekends, we somehow got into talk about how men have an apparent disdain for torso-covering articles of clothing. Men don't like shirts.

I think it's true. I almost never wear shirts indoors. To confirm this, I went back and looked at my photo albums. Me as a kid without a shirt, me in the barracks without a shirt, me at my parent's place without a shirt, me in dirty foreign countries without a shirt, me living with various girlfriends without a shirt, me being married without a shirt, me being divorced without a shirt, me at my current apartment without a shirt.

Really, if it wasn't for the goofy gown, I'd probably graduate from college without a shirt.


The discussion I had with them crazy college kids (two females, in this case) involved issues surrounding exposed armpits and hairy nipples and how they weren't comfortable with those if another person was around. I didn't grow up around females nor do I have any issues with walking around indoors mostly naked since I'm scrawny and my residential AC unit is mediocre at best. The military and college have only reinforced my comfort with being less than fully clothed.


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Here's my question:

Guys: Do you rock it like our mascot LordEden and rarely wear a shirt indoors?

Ladies: Do you think it's cool for a guy to be shirtless at home or is it somehow weird?

Thoughts?

SHOW ME YOUR MOOBS!!!

I think we all foresaw my response. :D Shirtless is great. I think everyone should take a page out of your book and Eden's book and go shirtless more often. It doesn't bother me at all. Hairy nips? Yes. Chest hair? Even better.

May I remind you of some great shirtless men:
http://content.artofmanliness.com/up...01/selleck.png
http://daddycatchersrealm.files.word...8/mikerowe.jpg

I always wear a shirt, unless I'm showering or sleeping (in which case, I'm covered with blankets).

But I wear a shirt while sleeping if it's cold.

My at-home attire is usually a t-shirt, boxers and dress socks. Seriously. Unless there are people over or the house is cold (when I throw on PJ bottoms), I'm as close to naked as I can get.

Why the t-shirt? I've got a hairy chest and don't want to contaminate anyone's food. Seriously. That dates back to pre-marriage when I lived with a bunch of guys and would cook. Too many complaints about chest hairs in stuff I cooked for people.

Baraka and Jazz...you guys make me sad. :(

I go shirt-less fairly often at home. The only reason I ever put one on is if it's too cold.

I'll come visit and we can both go shirtless together. That is, once you ditch E and I ditch The_Wife. :D

I dunno; I think clothing is a great invention.

Does it disappoint you that I'm currently wearing a cardigan over a T-shirt?

Indoors, I'm simply lazy. I don't put a shirt on until I have a reason, nor do I take one off without a reason.

Outdoors, my lily white flesh cooks like chicken skin under a broiler in the high altitude Colorado sun. I always wear a hat and shirt outside (fried bald spot is not fun).

I love how I'm the Chubby Poster Boy (tm) of shirtless men everywhere. I'm proud, I'd ask for a metal to show my support of "Hairy Shirtless White Men Club", but I think PlanetNiner would staple it to my chest.

I don't get the wearing of a shirt when not in public. Yes, if temperatures are not in the range of shirtlessness, I understand putting a shirt on, but why have one more layer of fabric when it's hot? Friends have brought SOs and people that don't know me to my house and I'm standing around shirtless. Sometimes I get funny looks, other-times nothing. I think they were warned. I love cooking shirtless and have never seen a rogue chest hair end up anywhere.

Viva la Shirtlessness!

(I wish I had the man chest of Mike Rowe or Mr. PI)

Try lifting more than 12 oz of cold, refreshing malty beverages once in a while then.

Today it will get into the 90s and stay there until sometime in October.
I have always lived in a very warm climate.
I have been shirtless and hairy-chested at home since I was a baby.

The cardigan makes up for the shirtlessness--you know that!

Hey, hey, hey... no cardigans in my thread! Shirtless or GTFO.

so what your really trying to say is that you end up without a shirt after every relationship? :P

/end threadjack

i try to go shirtless whenever i can. unfortunately here, any public nudity can lead you in jail, so im confined to going topless only at home and at the beach.

Oooooh, good one. And true.

It is a truth universally acknowledged that women with English degrees melt at the sight of men in cardigans.

Shirt stays on most of the time out of habit and comfort.

I wear shirts all times except the shower; even sleeping, etc. Probably because I have moobs.

I'm shirtless, ... clothesless as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

I'm only shirtless A) When I'm in bed/showering/just woke up, and B) It's hot outside and shirtlessness is socially appropriate. I'm usually more comfortable with some kind of covering on my torso.

i'm shielding your eyes from the moobs, doing you a favor. Don't dare make me take my shirt off on the beach :P

I would probably go around shirtless a lot more if we didn't have live in help. It's bloody hot here all the time and I don't like to run the aircon. On her days off or when she has gone to bed for the night, I am frequently topless.

That said, in Canada, where it's cold pretty much all the time, I was rarely without a shirt.

I used to go around shirtless, and when I rejoin the First Civie Divie I probably will again, but for the time being I don't usually, unless I'm in the shower or the rack. Shirtless is more comfortable, though.

I'm really kinda shocked. I expected the barbarian hordes of TFP to be far more inclined toward a naked torso.

I'm much closer to a tea party; a night at the opera; or sitting in the parlour, discussing politics over cigars and brandy. These things require covered torsos.

Not that it matters, but I'm on the opposite end of the presumed OP scale, even with all the traveling that I do, here's one little fun fact about Jet:
in the past ten months, not only have I not ever been seen without a shirt, buttoned-down (dress shirts) or button-up (golf/tennis shirts)... I haven't worn a T-shirt since 1999, but that's beside the point, where was I? Oh, in the past ten months, I am on shirts-on clockwork detail plus always, always wearing a sweater / pullover / "two-times-the-size-of-my-body" kind-of coverall is on my person.

There's something about my body which doesn't store fat well anymore. I still could use some tone, but gosh-be-all-gone, I'm always friggin' cold.

spindles leaves to go cardigan shopping :D

I will buy you a t-shirt and send it to you. Seriously. I've got one in mind.

Also, women who are considering lit degrees, and are, in general, bookworms :D



Besides that, though... I very much approve of shirtless men. :thumbsup: For one thing, I'm touchy. Not annoyingly so (uh, I don't think), but if I reach over to rub your back or kiss your shoulder, I'd prefer contact with skin, not fabric.


But, I guess you all knew that, since Eden's apparently the Shirtless Mascot :)

I wear short sleeved shirts just about all the time. If I did take it off, you'd see the (sun) imprint, except the T-shirt I would have on would have a very hairy 'pattern' on the front.

What are these shirts you speak of? Around the house I tend to go shirtless year round mostly, I'm known to strangers as my roomies pet wookie...

Heh, if only my torso were like Magnum's.
But no, you wouldn't want to see my lily-white hide all bare and glowing in the dark.

I wonder how many of us would be right at home on an episode of COPS?
I think it was a prerequisite that you had to appear shirtless on there. :thumbsup:

If I still lived alone I'd be nude.

I don't think my flat mates would appreciate that though.

Ha! Excellent observation.

I'm a fan of shirtless indoors.

I usually wear shirts for the eye safety of others. Prefer sans-a-shirt lifestyle myself.

The other downside is that I am in a computer chair the vast majority of my day, every day. Shirtless, I stick to the back of the chair. Very irritating to desperate your skin from the material of the chair every time you move or get up.

115lbs of skin, bone, and organs of computer nerd. I need all the insulation, and protection, I can get. I'm one of the few people who doesn't actually work with fire or metal for a living that nonetheless has both launched at him fairly regularly.

If nobody's around whose opinion matters, I'm in boxers unless it's cold. When it's cold out I go to pick my brother up from the train or work at night, shorts, slippers, and a Snuggie with the windows down to get a nice breeze around the torso.

Grow some more back hair like the rest of us Jinn and that will solve that sticking problem real quick =D

imagine them topless:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...cs/plan9-1.jpg

I have wondered when I see a sign in a place of business "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service." what would happen if someone showed up wearing just shoes and a shirt?

Doc I dare say you and I would be in deep doo doo...but others may get away with it...

I do usually enjoy wearing a shirt at home, although if it's hot enough in the summer, I will dispense with it.

It's actually pants that come off as soon as the front door closes behind me. I am a guy who just really enjoys his boxer briefs. That is a comfortable way to hang out at home.

And, sometimes, if it's just the perfect temperature-- not too cold, not too warm-- the boxer briefs can go. I will occasionally hang out in a t-shirt and nothing else, just me, the air, Jesusito and his two round apostles....

Keymaker, sometimes people will great you with an inquiry about staying out of trouble. I usually respond with something to the effect that life is more exciting when you are in trouble. Not much fun, but technically interesting.

PS. it seems that I am almost always in deep doo doo, or at least very smelly when I'm changing my 1 year old grandaughters diaper.

Levite,

What is the purpose of shirt/no pants?

You can't fight without pants.

That's a Die Hard rule.

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In AMERICA men MUST have pants, shirt optional.

In AMERICA women MUST have shirt, pants optional.

Well, since you asked.... I tend to sweat a little in the armpits. I don't use anti-perspirants, because the chemicals in them range from bad for you to unbelievably bad for you. So, a t-shirt kind of helps that problem out. Also, for some reason, I just don't find t-shirts restricting the way I find pants.

And as for the Die Hard rule, much as I do love that movie, my friend, I don't see it applying. I live in a fairly small condo, which means that I am never more than six steps or so from one of my broadswords.

And I guarantee you, when you've got a big hairy Jew coming at you with a four and a half foot bastard claymore in his hand, you really will not care if he's wearing pants or not.

$50 if you post that. Lemme see your WAR face.

We'll see. But don't hold your breath!

I am nekkid except when cold or in the company of clothes-wearers.

Or when in the presence of animals.
They have their own ideas about boundaries and I need at least one layer of separation. I still suffer from flashbacks of enforced menageries a trois when people's pets have been present during intimacy. Was it when I was forty - that Cat whose main aim was to find the best place to sit, paced around on my back - a purring surfer on the waves of my passion? Or was it that blind Poodle when I was nineteen? Ear-buds still fall out.

Covered, please.
 

As much as I delight in topless men, I have a problem with toplessness that is out of context. One time my current SO came to a July dinner table topless. I told him that unless this is the dress rehearsal for our relocation into a trailer park - keep it covered. :orly:

I usually wear a shirt (I have some scars even I don't like to look at) but usually no shoes, unless going out.

If I understand my history the Greeks and others did rather well fighting without pants.

Don't believe everything you see in the movies.

Bullshit. Epic heroes from yesteryear had three timeless options: Dockers, US military DCU trousers or Ranger panties.

And have you been to Greece recently? Pfft, hard to believe they conquered anything.

Ha, ha, nice. Looking at contemporary Grecians compared to ancient Grecians is far worse than criticizing America's empire for being "lame" compared to their ancestors' British one. I mean, no one really talks about America's navy the same way. And you guys don't even have a king, or a Duke of Wellington laying the smackdown on Napoleon. You guys didn't even catch Osama bin Laden.

I say if the ancient Greeks didn't wear pants, then no one should have to. Real men don't need pants.

But for the record, I'm all about clothes, even at home. However, I don't claim to need them; I just prefer them.

naked is the ticket baby.

i have so much hair on my chest (as you could probably tell from pics of my ass) that i walked into a beer store last summer sans le t-shirt.......and the clerk says to me........."little warm out to be wearing a sweater isn't it?"

had a good laugh.



bastard

shirtless in the summer always. my nipples get cold sometimes in the winter so i dare not. lol

I would agree with you except for societies conventions. Perhaps Plan9 is covering an inadequacy, can't wait to hear plan9's response.

It depends on what the temperature inside my house is. I am wearing a winter jacket now because it is 50 F inside. Wearing anything would be too much when it is 85-90 F indoors.

I'm not sure what would happen if there was anyone else living with me.

its wintertime in colorado. the shirt stays ON! however once it gets to be hotter or when i get deployed etc. yes shirtless is the way to go. i recommend it to my female colleagues here as well.

Ha, ha, nice. Stop trying to derail my point with unrelated historical fluff, smart guy!

Do the math with me, Baraka: Armies with pants > armies without pants. Men with pants > men without pants.

Pants doing manly things

Who conquered the Romans? Barbaric guys with pants.

Who stomped the Native Americans? European guys with pants.

Who turned William Wallace into the first Stretch Armstrong? Brits with pants.

Who invented machine guns, napalm, whiskey? Clever guys wearing pants.

Who wrote Man on the Silver Mountain? Musicians wearing pants.

Who landed on the frickin' moon? Bold guys with giant brass balls in pants.

Cowboys, pirates, ninjas, werewolves, zombies, vampires: Pants.

Rangers, SAS, Delta Force, GSG-9, Mossad, SEALs, Boy Scouts, your father: Pants.

Who blew a load in/on your wife before you married her? Some guy in pants.

Guys without pants:

Neanderthal Man (got his ass beat down in evolution by the more advanced species that later invented pants)

Jesus of Nazareth (questionable carpenter turned "Messiah," crucified by men without pants)

Ru Paul (enough said)

Guys with pants:

Arnold Schwarzenegger (bodybuilding god, action movie actor, governor of California)

Chuck Norris (actually has his own brand of face-kicking jeans *roundhouse kick*)

Mikhail Kalashnikov (invented the preferred means by which men with pants kill other men with pants)

Come on, now:

Are you seeing a pattern here? Sure, a few guys without pants have done great things... but not nearly as many as guys with pants.

Oh, PM your address. I need to send you some frickin' flower print granny panties.

Also:

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This will seem even more funny after you've been at TFP for a while. Search for "smooth spot" on the forum for a few laughs.

That's quite allright this thread is funny enough right now, I really didn't need to add anything, just felt like it.

I dunno. I used to be a naked little hooligan in my low twenties (running around in boxer shorts, sometimes nothing if alone). Then I started wearing clothes for some odd reason. Now I'm in between. I often go shirtless if temperature permits. Still sometimes rock only boxers. During winter though we keep it cold to save money, so I'm usually fully dressed. But I also like to show off my tattoos and scarification. So going shirtless is a plus in that regard.

edit: you're forgetting the most fiercesome warriors of all, that go pantless, and naked. Celtic berserkers. (or one of those old cultures, can't remember for sure if it was the celts).

this makes me a hooligan?!?!

Yeah... you KNOW a group has their shit together when the Roman Empire shows up, takes one look at you, turns the fuck around and builds something that gives the great wall of china a run for its money.

I'm a little tired of society's fear of naked people :p Nothing wrong with bearing all. Not only do I think that males should be able to take their shirt off, women should too. Moobs and boobs be free!

hear, hear!!!

No shirt in summer, but when it's negative 5 like it is today, I think I'll wear a shirt! :thumbsup:

My husband actually very seldom takes shirt off these days in summer, unless he's going swimming.