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Baraka_Guru · 05-11-2010, 07:03 AM

I'm not referring to technology such as indoor plumbing; I'm referring to social makeup and cultural influences. If Alabama does go in this direction of "speak English or leave"—and making policy changes to reflect that—do you think it won't have an impact? Do you not see how it would make the state more isolated than others?

SecretMethod70 · 05-11-2010, 07:28 AM

One need only look to Arizona to see an example of this. Remember, they're not just racially profiling immigrants to turn it into a police state, they've also banned accents from the classroom (after specifically courting multilingual teachers too!). There are plenty of people in Arizona who are outraged at this, but that doesn't change the impression many people outside of Arizona now have of the state. This is the same state, by the way, that refused to honor Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. day until 1992 - and only because of the massive backlash the state received after voting against honoring it in 1990 (including the NFL moving the location of the super bowl).

Alabama is distinctly different in the sense that they haven't passed laws like this - yet. That doesn't mean it's entirely unreasonable for people to pass judgement on Alabama due to these political ads though. After all, there are many other places in the country where a politician wouldn't even contemplate such an ad. While there may not be enough James sympathizers to win him the election, there are enough that he felt comfortable making the ad in the first place, and that does say something.

This is, after all, the same state and same election that has produced this anti-evolution/pro-bible ad:

YouTube - Alabama Political Attack Ad Mocks Evolution

The_Jazz · 05-11-2010, 07:39 AM

Careful, warrrrreagl. We all know that you don't own any shoes. We don't want you to stub your toe on a rock.

warrrreagl · 05-11-2010, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz

Careful, warrrrreagl. We all know that you don't own any shoes. We don't want you to stub your toe on a rock.

Hell, we're too backwater to even have rocks. But in Birmingham we love the governor. Boo, boo, boo. (we all did what we could do)

LordEden · 05-11-2010, 09:10 AM

Alabama and the rest of the southern states are in the bible belt. There are a lot of christian voters. "A Good Christian Man" is just viable in the minds of votes as a solid economic stimulus plan, sometimes more. It's the Religion Card, it's easy to play and it reaches more voters than anything else. I don't get why people don't realize this, it's the south, you HAVE to be Christian here to get anywhere in politics and it wins you more votes to say "Liberals hate God, but I love him with all my heart. My Grandpappy loved him, my daddy loved him, I love him and by god if I get elected I'll make sure my son and YOUR kids will love him too".

Again I'll say it, there are some great people in the south (I know, I live in the belt buckle of the bible belt), but the rest of them are dumbass 'hicks that hate anything that FOX news says they should hate.

SecretMethod70 · 05-11-2010, 09:36 AM

Eden: we all realize it, doesn't mean we should accept it or not mock it.

izzzzy · 05-23-2010, 05:17 AM

i think president obama was right on one thing and that is that we should learn more spanish.you get a different perspective when you have to work side by side with illegals.how many juan valdez's do you think there are anyway?

Shadowex3 · 05-23-2010, 01:06 PM

According to facebook 265, but that's just the ones that the search indexes.

Stoked · 05-23-2010, 05:20 PM

Was this actually played on the TV?

Ahaha, I love American TV, he would be laughed at so hard in NZ that he would never live it down and probably have to go live in AU.

0.25 is my favorite bit, the deep reflecting look, with the emotional music playing like he's talking about the day he tried to save some drowning kittens and failed. Bwahahaha, what an insulting joke to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.

SecretMethod70 · 05-23-2010, 05:44 PM

There are quite a few gems coming out of Alabama this political cycle...

YouTube - We are Better than That!!!!!

Grancey · 06-08-2010, 09:43 PM

***UPDATE***

My fellow Alabamians came through. I may have had to disappear for a while if James had won.

Bentley secures GOP runoff spot, James raising money to pay for recount | Opelika-Auburn News

Quote:

MONTGOMERY — The tally from the Republican primary for governor shows Robert Bentley edged Tim James by 167 votes for a spot in the runoff, but James is demanding a recount.

“The people of Alabama must know the truth,” James said Tuesday.

Bentley, a Tuscaloosa physician, said he is already preparing for a runoff July 13 with first-place finisher Bradley Byrne and will reach out to James’ supporters.

“Many hard-fought campaigns are close, but there can be only one winner. I won and am in the runoff,” Bentley said.

Unofficial returns from the primary June 1 showed Bentley leading James by 208 votes, but that did not include provisional ballots.

Election officials verified and counted those ballots Tuesday, and the Alabama Republican Party announced these vote totals: Byrne 137,448 or 27.89 percent; Bentley 123,960 or 25.15 percent; and James 123,793 or 25.12 percent. Four other candidates split the remaining votes.

Under Alabama law, James must request recounts in each county and pay the cost. James said he would start with the counties with the most Republican votes and then decide whether to go statewide.

Officials in each county will determine the cost. James estimated it could be as much as $200,000, but no one knows for sure because it has never
been done.

“We are setting precedent that will be followed for generations to come,” James said.

To pay the tab, the Greenville developer began a special fundraising campaign Tuesday.

Alabama law provides for an automatic recount at the state’s expense in general elections when candidates finished within one-half percentage point, but Republican Attorney General Troy King issued an advisory opinion Tuesday saying a recount is not automatic in a primary.

King’s opinion agreed with an earlier one from the state’s chief election official, Secretary of State Beth Chapman, that the third-place finisher would have to seek a recount county by county and then pay for it.

State Republican Party Chairman Mike Hubbard said the recount will be a logistical challenge.

He and James say they want the GOP to avoid what the Democratic Party went through in 1986 with a ballot dispute. A legal battle between Democratic gubernatorial candidates Bill Baxley and Charlie Graddick caused a voter backlash and led to the election of Alabama’s first Republican governor in more than a century.

“We are not going to ever let Baxley-Graddick happen again,” James said.

He was joined at his news conference by his father, two-term Gov. Fob James, and his mother, Bobbie James. Tim James said many requests from his supporters persuaded him to seek a recount rather than conceding to Bentley.

SecretMethod70 · 06-15-2010, 11:57 PM

Um, I have to ask... are Alabama ads always this crazy? It seems like they just keep coming and coming...

YouTube - Gather Your Armies

Baraka_Guru · 06-16-2010, 03:48 AM

sephir · 07-02-2010, 04:57 AM

embarrassing indeed

05-11-2010, 07:03 AM	#121 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	I'm not referring to technology such as indoor plumbing; I'm referring to social makeup and cultural influences. If Alabama does go in this direction of "speak English or leave"—and making policy changes to reflect that—do you think it won't have an impact? Do you not see how it would make the state more isolated than others? __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

05-11-2010, 07:39 AM	#123 (permalink)
The_Jazz Asshole Administrator Location: Chicago	Careful, warrrrreagl. We all know that you don't own any shoes. We don't want you to stub your toe on a rock. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - B. Franklin "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush "We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

05-11-2010, 09:36 AM	#126 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Eden: we all realize it, doesn't mean we should accept it or not mock it. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

05-23-2010, 05:20 PM	#129 (permalink)
Stoked Upright Location: Left of the Kidney.	Was this actually played on the TV? Ahaha, I love American TV, he would be laughed at so hard in NZ that he would never live it down and probably have to go live in AU. 0.25 is my favorite bit, the deep reflecting look, with the emotional music playing like he's talking about the day he tried to save some drowning kittens and failed. Bwahahaha, what an insulting joke to anyone with an IQ above room temperature. __________________ If kittens didn't want to be eaten why do they look so delicious? Last edited by Stoked; 05-23-2010 at 05:22 PM..

06-16-2010, 03:48 AM	#133 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	WTF? __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

05-23-2010, 05:17 AM	#127 (permalink)
izzzzy Crazy Location: SW NEW HAMPSHIRE	i think president obama was right on one thing and that is that we should learn more spanish.you get a different perspective when you have to work side by side with illegals.how many juan valdez's do you think there are anyway?

07-02-2010, 04:57 AM	#134 (permalink)
sephir Upright	embarrassing indeed