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Kick Ass Kunoichi
Location: Oregon
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Hipsters on Food Stamps?
From: Hipsters on food stamps - Pinched: Tales from an Economic Downturn - Salon.com
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How do you feel about this segment of the population acquiring and using SNAP benefits, and their use of them as illustrated in the article? Is it possible that they could be setting a good example for others who use SNAP?
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I Confess a Shiver
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How is this clique a segment of the population? I mean, do we have a Gangstas on Food Stamps study to back this one up?
First, let's define "hipster." Second, let's compare "hipster" to whatever other similar people-dividing groups are out there. |
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Location: tentative, at best
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Actually, healthy food is a lot more expensive than non-healthy food. You may give them credit for eating healthy, but their "money" would go a lot further if they bought at a regular grocery store - or (shudder) Walmart.
Let's face it - you can buy three packs of hot dogs for the price of one steak.
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Tilted Cat Head
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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I think it's good that people are exploring the government programs that they paid into or are going to be paying into. I know I would take advantage of any program that I qualify. I used to think I shouldn't and that it's some sort of pride thing, but if the safety net is there, why not take advantage of it?
That said, I am aware of the programs that I would qualify for if I lost my job since Skogafoss has now been unemployed for about 1.25 years now. Buying organic doesn't necessarily mean healthier since there are absolutely no real federal guidelines as to the definition of organic. The word changes monthly if not weekly in the food industry. Give people manner to take care of themselves with some dignity and responsibility and more than likely they will.
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Location: In the land of ice and snow.
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More power to them. My family was on WIC after my daughter was born. You can bet that we spent those vouchers at one of the local co-ops. Why not? Even though WIC is different from food stamps in that there are pretty tight restrictions on what can be purchased, we still preferred locally produced sharp cheddar to kraft american singles.
It is true that you can get make your money go further calorically if you buy cheap, low quality food, but calorically dense foods generally aren't good for you. The cheapness of low quality, calorically dense foods is a significant contributor to rising obesity rates. From a more macro perspective, more money invested now on healthy food means that down the road there will be less money invested in treatment of any of the many diseases that are caused by obesity. And before someone chimes in about how unfair it is that people on public assistance are eating better than they are, they should realize that they're choosing to eat poorly if someone on the meager allowances provided by public assistance is eating better than they are. Also, as noted above, the word "hipster" doesn't refer to any objective set of people. Anecdotally speaking, I have found that the people most likely to talk shit about hipsters are hipsters themselves (with an underdeveloped sense of self awareness). I think that the word "hipster" serves mainly as means of emotional validation for people who never grew out of the adolescent need to categorized and dismiss people based on superficial features. We might as well be talking about jocks, stoners and heshers. |
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Location: tentative, at best
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We need to stretch every dollar, so my shopping list is basically, "whatever's on sale."
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Kick Ass Kunoichi
Location: Oregon
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One of the things I imagine these people (given their apparent knowledge of cooking and available time) are doing is something we do--we buy dried beans, rice, lentils, and other grains in bulk. Certainly, it takes preplanning to make beans from dried, but it's very, very cheap. Black beans, brown rice, a sprinkle of cheese, and salsa--healthy and cheap. I also wonder if what holds true at my hippie food co-op holds true elsewhere--milk, eggs, bulk foods, and fresh foods are about the same as/cheaper than elsewhere (not meat though). If one were to shop the periphery of my local co-op (as we do), the prices are reasonable, whereas items in the center of the store--the dry goods and prepared foods--are much more expensive. It certainly takes forethought and more scratch cooking to produce dinner without using cheap processed foods.
Also, I'm excited that my co-op just started taking WIC. I think they are a great place to shop in this community, and I hope people using WIC take advantage of it.
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I Confess a Shiver
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has all her shots.
Location: Florida
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It's a person's prerogative to spend their benefits how they choose, particularly if they are single. I doubt highly that anyone with a family would persist in shopping at specialty stores if the majority of their food money were coming from government assistance. Fact is, you can still eat well and eat healthy shopping at regular grocery stores for much less money.
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immoral minority
Location: Back in Ohio
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An apple costs less than apple sauce with extra sugar. And orange and two eggs from the store is just as much as anything on a dollar menu. Carrots, raisins, and pineapple is a pretty cheap thing to make.
My diet habits are usually pretty cheap, and they didn't change once I got a paycheck. |
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The Reforms
Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition
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I caught a glimpse of this story on CNN a few days ago.
I don't think I'll be adding much to the discussion, but to add anecdote to this topic, my family used to be on food stamps when I was younger. At that age, I don't really recall what it is we bought, and what category of "organic" the foods fell into; I'm just glad I ate daily, and if that means only eating once or twice a day, I was satisfied enough to not question it. I still think this way to this day, and so long as I can find a way to nourish my hunger first, then I can then expand to think of whether or not the nutrition I'm feeding myself will serve me any better a week from now. And while I personally don't care what people do with their own allotment of funds, I feel if they know exactly how to maximize their expenditures in grocery, then this really shouldn't be news at all (but with how most persons, whether single or with family, don't even come close to buying only the "healthy stuff", it's for the most part, a reaction to something the general audience at large should have already thought of before the "pauperized hippies" decided to teach us a thing or two).
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