03-02-2010, 11:41 AM | #1 (permalink) | ||
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Cable company vs. ABC
This morning when I turned on my TV, there was a message from the cable company saying that they were in negotiation with ABC and that if they don't agree on something, ABC will no longer be aired on our cable. cable company memo
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Then you go to ABC7 site and it sounds totally opposite. ABC7 Quote:
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03-02-2010, 11:51 AM | #2 (permalink) | |
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Here's the AP's article on the situation:
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03-02-2010, 12:03 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Thanks Snowy. So what I get from that is Cablevision currently does pay Disney but not for ABC. Now Disney wants money for that part of their programming. Cablevision thinks they already pay enough.
I am already paying for ABC with basic cable but I guess Cablevision is keeping that money for themselves. I see a future increase in my cable bill coming... Maybe it's time to look into a dish network, or FIOS.
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03-02-2010, 12:25 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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This happens every 3 or 4 months, but you never know about it until the cable company thinks it's just too much.
Television companies are bleeding money and need every avenue of revenue possible. Disney is just wanting to get their money for ABC. as far as Cablevision keeping the money to themselves, all companies do this. They receive anywhere from $1-$4 per subscriber while only paying out $.15-$.75 per subscriber to the stations. So if the deal with ESPN was $.75/subscriber, the cable company will charge the subscriber $2-3 for access to ESPN. I think around here Time Warner is actually getting $5/subscriber for ESPN while paying out $1/subscriber. I left cable a few months ago and went to Directv and couldn't be happier. (meh to Dish Network.) |
03-02-2010, 06:01 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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I absolutely HATE cable companies. I currently have Timer Warner. I can't leave them because I bundle everything together(phone, internet, tv) and if I left them and paid for everything seperate I'd pay even more than I am now. It started out 5 years ago at $97.00. It's now $143.79. Every now and then they'll raise the price WAY too high and I have to call and threaten to leave if they don't drop the price. They always come down alot but it's still quite rediculous.
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03-02-2010, 06:13 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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I reccomend the good 'ole Dish Network. I will admit that DirecTV has some good stuff on it, though. It's all basically the same, but I wish I could see the Dan Patrick Show and Friday Night Lights.
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03-02-2010, 06:17 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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Apparently, FIOS is not in my area, so my only other choice is DirectTV. But then where will I get my internet and my phone from? I don't think DirectTV offers any kind of package deal. So I guess I am stuck. Eh, I can always raise the rent if they raise my cable bill. My tenants use my cable and my internet, included in the rent.
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03-02-2010, 06:33 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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Cablevision provides what is unquestionably the best internet service in the tri-state area. When it comes to TV, we get shafted with terrible cable boxes and questionable signal quality that they claim is normal. All you have to do is to look as MSG and the teams Cablevision owns. They don't give a shit if the Rangers win the cup, they just want at least one round of playoffs revenue. Same for the knicks.
I have little doubt that Cablevision will continue the dick waving contest with broadcasters and add the measurements of each and every customer's dick to their own to try and overpower them. Worst case, I lose a channel I don't really watch anyway. |
03-02-2010, 08:50 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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03-03-2010, 04:52 AM | #10 (permalink) | |
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When I was with Time Warner, they offered me 10MBup/down for $68/month plus basic cable (no movie channels) for $70 a month. My DirecTV bill is $82 and I have every movie (premium) channel plus I have all my NFL Sunday Ticket stuff when that comes around. If you love sports, movies and HD service, then DirecTV is the way to go. Their DVR boxes are awesome and I have had 0 signal loss, even during snow and rain storms. You can have up to 4 DVR (or regular) boxes on one dish, so your tenants could still have their TV and internet. Just price around, call the cable company and tell them you're leaving and see if they offer you a decent deal. Then go to DirecTV and tell them what you want and you're considering leaving cable and see what they offer you. They have pretty good prices for what you get. Much better than cable. |
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03-03-2010, 05:11 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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MSO (multiple system operator) is the industry lingo for Cable operators. They pay out a lot to companies like Viacom and Disney for carriage of their programming. Disney has one of the biggest advantages because they own ESPN and MSOs collect about $6 per sub, whereas they would collect about $.50 for MTV.
There's a lot of money at stake. It used to be that broadcast was competitive to free over the air for CBS/ABC/NBC/Fox but that's changed since most use cable instead of OTA. Quote:
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03-03-2010, 05:20 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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It's exploitive on both ends of the stick.. the Networks want the cable companies to pay $1-6 per sub, while the cable companies expect to get the same in return. For instance, WRAL TV gets paid $.50/sub here, and the cable company then charges a dollar for carrying that channel. So they've made up their cost and gained all their profit. Time Warner pays out $3/sub on ESPN, but they charge $5-$6 to their subscribers.. So really, the cable companies are being exploiting more than the networks, but, when it comes to the practice of exploitation, it's kind of hard to find a good reason on either hand.
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03-03-2010, 05:22 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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this is why cable is terrified of things like Hulu, youtube, mlb.com and the like. It removes the middle man and they broadcaster gets the money directly.
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03-03-2010, 05:27 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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well, I don't think they'll have to worry about youtube much.. that place is ridiculous now with all the copyright wars going on. Hulu, well, if they go to a subscription based package, I think they'll burn out pretty fast. :shrug:
There is massive competition in this industry. For instance, last year the state (NC) passed a franchising law that allowed phone companies to carry cable and provide the service. AT&T has swooped into our area now and Time Warner and AT&T are dueling it out like two grandmothers fighting for the last pack of Polident. Time Warner just had a massive 400% increase in price because they had to meet the demands of the networks and AT&T is slowly but surely placing their equipment all over town, while Time Warner is trying to upsell their services that really don't mean anything. The start over feature.. whoopdedoo.. I'm just pissed that I didn't go to DirecTV sooner. |
03-03-2010, 06:16 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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DirecTV depends on signals, right? If I am in a dead zone for my cell phone, would that be the same for DirecTV?
eh, maybe I will stick with Cablevision. The internet is more important to me than the tv is anyway. My kids don't want anything on ABC. As long as I don't lose CartoonNetwork and Disney, I am good.
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03-03-2010, 06:58 AM | #17 (permalink) | |
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see it will even happen online
http://consumerist.com/2010/03/no-mo...t-on-hulu.html Quote:
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03-07-2010, 02:38 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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Well, ABC-7 is off Cablevision, for now.
To compensate, I am getting Free movies on demand for today. Of course, I didn't get that email until just now. Maybe I will watch something after the kids are in bed, just because it's free.
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03-08-2010, 10:51 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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I wonder who blinked....
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03-08-2010, 11:07 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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I'm thinking it had to be Cablevision. ABC had the upper hand in this discussion. If the switch had been a week or two in the future, it could have been either way. Less than one day? Cablevision gave in.
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