Propose a "TFP Bill"
 

Senators frequently propose bills in order to enact the will of their constituents. Congress votes on the bills and some things get passed into law.

Well, let's pretend you're all members of the TFP congress. I want you to propose a bill for change. It can be the addition/deletion of a forum. It can be for the appropriation of funds for a new feature. It can be a new rule that we need or an old rule that needs to be put out of its misery. I, being the president and all, can veto any of these bills, but I will entertain reasonable ones.

The public will show their support for your bill and the most popular will go into consideration.

And for the hell of it, name your bills.

ooh, give them numbers too, like TFPR 0001 (TFP Resolution 0001).


Cause it's fun.

TFP Fair Trade Bill
 

Expressing a desire for a buy/sell/trade forum on the TFP to allow community members to offer items and services to other members before using or without needing the services of eBay, Craigslist and other large public forums.

Whereas there are a fair number of regular members on the TFP;

Whereas members may often find themselves ready to discard usable, well-kept items;

Whereas members may keep record of good and/or fair practices held by other members in a sense of commerce;

Whereas there is a distinct sense of trust amongst members of the TFP;

Now therefore it be requested that a forum for such buying, selling and trading amongst members of the TFP be created, tried and evaluated for usefulness; Furthermore let such forum be monitored by moderators; Still further, allow such forum to maintain a sticky as the top post allowing for feedback of transactions between members.

Can a 2/3 majority override your veto? :D

TFP 0069 (hey nobody said keep numbers in order)

*disclaimer* I have no intent on wording it like a real bill or all that..

Place some resources into a webcam chat. Could help the community become a closer group and it is nice to see the faces behind the posts.

I 2nd this one and propose it only be available to members that have access the areas like Members Playground (unless something has changed and thats accessible to everyone now...then I suggest something like members with access to exhibition)

HR0001: Congressional Resolution 1- Establishing The Use of Democratic Votes on Bills before being brought before the POTFP (President of Tilted Forum Project) for veto and for forum leadership.


(1) Calling on the TFP government to establish a member's/citizen's right to vote on resolutions and bills before being presented before the President, in order to --
- (a) create a democratic system of government under the oligarchical parliament and supreme chancellor/president; and
- (b) create an experiment which can be referenced by this and other forums as a model or first attempt at a democratically ruled forum
(2) Calling on the TFP government to hold free elections for basic moderators, however still allowing the president, super-moderators, and administrators to choose the candidates, so long as
- (a) there are no hanging chad; and
- (b) the vote is anonymous.

I like xepherys' bill. I like guccilvr's bill.

*tear*

TFP 0000003

OPEN MESSAGING

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Members currently have the option of sending email messages and private messages to each other. A third option would also be highly desireable: OPEN MESSAGING.

Open Messages would appear in a members profile similar to the way our journals currently appear; most recent entry on top. Members should be able to make their Open Message boards public or private or limit the visibility to selected other members or maybe only to members on their buddy list.

Open Messages would not be "sent" like our private messages; they would be "posted" like our journal entries. So I could post a message to my own message board and any other member of TFP could also post to my board if I choose to make it completely public. A member could easily host a mutli-party chat by inviting members to post on his/her Message Board at the same time. If I am exchanging messages on my board with one buddy I could send a private message to another buddy inviting her/him to a multi-party chat.

Q. - What is the point of all this you ask?
Isn't this idea redundant with the capabilities we already have in our forums and our journal commenting ?

A. - Similar to the web cam proposal I think Open Messaging could bring a lot of people a lot closer together. I think most members will consider this to be a public way of chatting and most people will be very open and intimate in their chats the way they already are in the forums. Other people may choose to keep their Open Message boards semi-private and use them for a selected group of buddies to have private chats and exchange gossip.

As a TFP member I can currently peruse other member's journals if they choose to make them public and I can make comments here and there. Similarly with this idea I could peruse other member's Open Message boards and read the conversations they are having and post a message or even jump into an ongoing conversation if I stumble upon one. I have used this type of Open Message capability in another forum I belong to and I have found it to be exhilarating. I have participated in many epic multi-party chats and I have made tremendous long lasting, online frienships in this way.

There is alot more to this idea than I can possibley express here. If anyone is interested in seeing how this works I can send you an invitation to Orkut where hundreds of thousands of these Open Messages are posted by members from across the world. In Orkut they are called "scraps" and the member's Open Message boards are called "scrapbooks". Orkut also has thousands of forums and also has a private messaging capability. The problem with Orkut is that is left almost completely unmoderated by Google and it has become a wild and wooley environment. If we could do something similar to the "scrapbooks" in TFP with our mature members and our excellent moderation I think we could really take our forum project to a new level.

I invite your comments and ideas and hope that one or two people will take me up on my offer to invite them to experience this type of messaging.

<hr><hr>

1. Tilted Forum Project ("the forum") is an adult online discussion community, and, as such, has a wide range of content, some of which does not comply with workplace internet standards ("NSFW content").<br>
   
2. This NSFW content is present primarily in a subsection titled "Errogenous Zone," plus one additional forum, but current board standards also allow other pages to contain NSFW content, either as the subject matter (normally labeled with "NSFW" in the thread title or link body), or in the forum of user's avatars.<br>
   
3. It is not desireable to permanently or completely remove the NSFW content from the forum, for a variety of reasons not disputed by this proposal.<br>
   
4. Many users might wish to access the forum from a location that permits internet access, but does not permit NSFW content. This is currently possible only through disabling avatars and avoiding the known NSFW content locations. NSFW content could still be viewed accidently through various actions, with varying degrees of penalty depending upon the terminal being used.<br>
   
   THEREFORE
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5. OWSCA proposes that a mechanism be introduced by which the board can easily be brought into full compliance with restricted browsing standards.
   
   (a) This mechanism should ideally be persistent to the terminal, not to the account, so that home accounts do not inherit the permisisons of the workplace terminal. <br>
   (b) If (a) is infeasable, a front-page option, easily accessible upon login to the main page, should be put in place. <br>
   (c) To ensure that the option is comprehensive, it should remove any threads marked NSFW from being displayed in the forum indexs, as well as remove the primarily NSFW content forums from both the general listing and the 'find new posts' dialog box. <br>
   (d) To allow for variations in neccessary compliance levels, there should be a per-user profile option similar to 'hide avatars when browsing in safe mode (yes/no)

I propose, as an amendment to the resolution by the Honorable Xepherys, that there be created an entire forum devoted to the Town of Bel Air, in the State of Maryland, to be used exclusively by residents of said location and with all honors, rights and privliges given to any other forum on the TFP.

(Pork for my constituents :thumbsup:)

i remember b'lair...

TFPsumbill020xD6

I propose all female participants in the exhibition forum get together and wrestle eachother for jello shots.

I got nothin.

I agree and vote FOR the TFP00137: NSFW act. it's a great idea. every thread should have a check for NSFW when it's created. i'm sure it could be possible to make.

I also really like the TFP Fair Trade Bill. As long as it's monitored from both ends or not at all. It just needs a good way to post pictures of what we sell and to where we agree to ship it to. So either mark that clearly in your post or in your thread title. We should get a MOD to delete or lock the threads of items sold or not selling anymore with an easy PM from the thread creator.

Also, we need to keep it clean of fake items and ads. so no mail order brides and no magic pills.

I like the buy/sell idea too.
All in Favor?

I'm actually surprised that Twistedmosaic's OWSCA proposal isn't already an Act. I never had to operate in "safe mode," but after reading in one of the threads that someone couldn't access TFP at a Panera, it seems to make a lot of sense to have something like that. I'd be bummed if I was blocked from ALL the forums while browsing from a different terminal.

Last time I proposed a trading forum, my idea was shut down quite quickly and I was told to go use eBay....http://forums.modojo.com/images/smilies/annoyed.gif

Supporting Xeph.

I'm glad to see so much support for my proposal. I've used the Buy/Sell forums on a photography-related site I frequent, and they are VERY useful. Plus, it'd be nice to have a community of TFPers to be able to do things like video game trades and such. Obviously nothing illegal, but a lot of legal things that give everyone more bang for their buck (why, sell a 360 game to GameStop for $5 only to turn around and pay $35 for a used copy of the game you want when you can just TRADE the game with someone else?!?)

Can I amend my act? It would actually be sweet if you could just go to a different URL entirely. TFPSFW.org or similar. Same login, same database, no NSFW content. Then if IT goes and looks at TFPSFW they don't see anything objectionable. (and it gets around TFP already being blocked places)

I remember that idea; I remember the responses as well. :no:

It goes to prove promotion and reception are all fickle factors.

1st Congress
1st Session

TFPR-1000000

Part i) The re-introduction and revival of the Aussie forum.

The re-introduction and revival of the now defunct aussie forum. The aussies have been spread far and wide here, and the forum which now sits in the nonsense section isnt visited very often.

no offence, but this forum is as much for aussies as much as it is for americans.

if anything give the aussie forum a small corner somewhere, but not in nonsense!

Part ii) I second xephs motion.
Part iii) I second guccis motion

Can I propose the reinstatement of Nonsense into "Latest Posts", or at least the allowance to customise the "New Posts"view to list whichever fora I want to see?

I like the Trade Forum one.

And, I thought of a little revision for the NSFW one. Instead of having just the envelopes beside the thread that I have no idea what they mean, change the envelopes into different little messages telling us of it's contents (e.g. NSFW, about work, about games, popular topic, etc.).

I 2nd this motion: I would like to remove a few forums that I have never and will never check. So being able to remove these at will would be perfect!! I 2nd this suggestion and bring it toward a vote. who's for the modification of "New post" option?!

you mean like fark!? politics, amuzing, dumbass, etc.. haha. sure. why not. but I don't see this making the full forum for long. too many people would skip using the feature. plus, most of these categories are already in their own forum. whereas the NSFW can be in all forums at any time.

That might have been a good idea if democracy worked on internet forums.

The moderation/super-moderation/admins choose the candidates, THEN we vote. That way no one gets in that they don't want it. I see it as a compromise.

Never been a fan of a democratic forum idea.

What if I send lobbyists?

Same dilemma as with the democracy.

The site has one owner. Changes are made based on whether he likes them or not. He may consider the opinions of the administration and perhaps the regulars or he may not. Democracy might work when the forum is owned by the users who elect the administrator. As long as there is an owner, the forum will be a dictatorship or a faux-democracy at best.

Yes, my attempt a humor. Really, this is supposed to be a haven for mature and enlightened people. I'm really curious as to whether an election would be about choosing the most capable or the most popular. If an election can't happen here, of all places, what hope does democracy have with people like Texans?
Oligarchy, yes, but TFP is not your average forum. It's not 4chan or somethingawful. Overall, this is a bit of a haven (as I said above). It's what an oligarchy should be, for the most part. And yes, it wouldn't be a true democracy, but there's really no such thing anyway.

TFP has more social cliques that are more prominent than standard electoral politics.

Ours are only just slightly smaller.

Consider my governor. A man with no political history and really no history of thinking was elected simply because he was popular. And he was married to a Kennedy.

i really enjoy Xepherys' TFP Trade Bill. I would feel much, much safer buying things off of the tfp than almost anywhere else on the net. Shanifaye's idea about having to participate to gain entry to that forum much like some of the others just adds to "safety" feel of it all.

Shauks idea (all though be it a far cry) was most excellent. i second and third that, baby! (i have the power to do that...don't ask why...i just do)

i have no proposal at the moment. maybe ill think of something later on in the night.

Need more bills! need more votes!

I'm all for the trade forum. Consider by vote in the proverbial slot.

I'm trying to think of a bill that doesn't involve imprisoning Jews, but it's a bit of a struggle.

...and the Canada Board.

TFP Bill "Order to the TFP Bill System" hereby known as "SHAUK0002"

A seperate forum is to be created in which forum members can create their own bill in it's own thread with a poll required of "yay" and "nay" as well as a "Write in"

Limited access to those with "members playground" priv's

right now I feel like i'm reading a live transcript of the stock market with everyone lobbying bills at the same time and talking over each other. :p

or you know, people could just use the suggestions forum

I second the motion.

The bigger issue is that the owner is the one who has to implement the changes. Sometimes they are either impossible or impractical to implement. I'm not saying any of the previously mentioned ones fall into this category, but it can happen.

Howabout, your first post in exhibition (including replies to other people's threads) must be pictures of yourself? Once you've posted yourself, then you can comment on everyone else.

Also: Remove the time constraints and sticky all the various challenges...they're a great entry point for people who might be new to exhib.

what about us that are digital camera-less?

Seconded.

I suspect that the "Nonsense is not included in Latest Posts" decision was based on annoyance at Bones. He is long gone.
This was tried about a year ago, for some reason it didn't work correctly. See New Posts development... for details on how it went down. I'd like to see it return as well.

I would like to put a new tool to the mix here:

I propose that we add background colours to the text that way when someone uses a LIGHT colour, they can also add a dark background to the text that way the people using the lighter coloured skin for the forum can still read this.

And yes, I'm pointing this completely at the MODs who use yellow writting. I'm on vbulletin3 so my background is white or light light blue. Yellow is invisible on it.

can I get a vote!??

There were complaints because it has been one of the faster-moving forums and tended to overwhelm the rest of posts for people who don't post in there.
I use a Insignia, so I'm used to light colors being readable. Regardless of votes, I'll bring this to the attention of the mod squad and try to make life easier for everyone.

thank you! very much appreciated!

This is being fast-tracked through for convenience. Expect to see a BBcode for text background color in the next day or two, and expect people to gradually start remembering to use it over the next couple of weeks.

This is more of a suggestion than a bill. If you post in Tilted Suggestions we try to accommodate or at least explain why we can't.

I'm quite happy to make up bbcodes :) It's been fun. You should check out all the ones that I've made over the past few months.

tested....

thanks for the assist MSD

I have a style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow" and a font color="#000000" (black)

this insures that it's readable in all colors. When I checked just the background color yellow then the darker ones couldn't read it easily.

[ highlight ] your text here [ /highlight ]

your text here

awesome! you guys rock! thanks Cyn!! this is really cool. let's just hope it's not abused of. :)

yes this is going to be scary if it is abused.

OMG, the Lorem ipsum text!

I purpose a small addition to the Quote feature. Often I'll see someone quote a previous post in a thread and I'll find myself scrolling back looking for that post that was quoted. On another forum I visit regularly, There is a link to the original post in the quote. It says "Originally posted by XXX" Then after has a little .GIF that is the link to the post. I've been using this feature on the other forum and It's come in handy, especially in multi-page threads.

In the Edit box it looks like "[ QUOTE=Whoever;315786]" with the number at the end being the link to the original post.

Ref:http://elitistjerks.com/f31/ Here's the forum I was talking about, Almost all of the threads include a quote.

That's a function of the version of vbulletin. They are using v3.6.8 which has that ability built in. A good suggestion, but I don't believe I have ever seen any function like that within the mods available for the version we're running.

Bring back quick quotes. This isn't a bill, it's a guy with a pitchfork and torch demanding.
You'd have to rewrite the quote function to do it. The current function grabs the number of the post quoted, maybe it can be modified to grab the post number and wrap a url tag around the "<name> posted ..."

Since it's already generating text, can the post number be stored as a variable and turned into a URL tag?

I don't think I've ever seen someone get so excited over placeholder text before.

If you behave maybe I'll post quick brown fox later.