01-31-2008, 02:36 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Anti-gay group pickets service of Reno soldier killed in Iraq, Gets owned.
Associated Press - January 26, 2008 7:05 PM ET RENO (AP) - A small group of anti-gay protesters gathered today outside a funeral service for a Reno soldier killed in Iraq, but later became surrounded by more than 150*(supposedly over 220) counter-demonstrators. The anti-gay protest was the latest sponsored by the Westboro Baptist Church based in Topeka, Kansas, which claims God kills soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan to punish America for condoning homosexuality. Washoe County sheriff's Lieutenant Dean Spurr says there were no problems after three anti-gay protesters became surrounded by counter-demonstrators across the street from Saint Rose of Lima Catholic Church, where the service was held for Army Staff Sergeant Sean Gaul. The 29-year-old Gaul was among six soldiers who died January 9th in Sinsil, Iraq, after an improvised explosive device, commonly known as IED, detonated during combat operations. Counter-demonstrators showed up with American flags and made it difficult to see anti-gay protesters' signs that read "God Hates Fags" and "God Loves IE-Ds." The Westboro Baptist Church has sponsored similar protests across the country. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. Keep in mind that the soldier wasn't gay. Sources: http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7778931 http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...2Fbreakingnews http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...2Fbreakingnews
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01-31-2008, 02:40 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Nice to see that the fascists can be counted on to protest the anti-gay movement...
How odd.
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01-31-2008, 07:18 AM | #6 (permalink) | |
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01-31-2008, 07:26 AM | #7 (permalink) | |
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01-31-2008, 10:26 AM | #12 (permalink) | ||
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Here's members of the same club hanging out at a local Denny's And here they are at a picnic: They seem friendlier already.
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01-31-2008, 10:56 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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The Patriot Guard Riders do a lot of this stuff, too. They'll line up their bikes and drown out the protesters. They did this for my friend's family when her brother was killed in Iraq in 2005.
I'm a fan of these anti-protesters
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01-31-2008, 11:01 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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OK, my blood started boiling with those beginning comments.
We are NOT by any stretch, "counter-demonstrators". We do NOT just show up, we must be invited by the mourning family-NO EXCEPTIONS. Y'all need to read up on what you're commenting about before making such ignorant comments. I don't see any 'nazi' things...the Iron Cross is not a swastika. |
01-31-2008, 11:13 AM | #15 (permalink) | |
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I was hoping you would shed more light on this particular group since I know you're active in one that is similar.
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01-31-2008, 11:22 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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Patriot Guard is not 'similar' to what you're suggesting. It is not anti-protestor, anti-demonstrator, anti-anything. What it IS is support for the military and their families. We provide escort and honor flag lines when it's requested. We escort and welcome home returning soliders and escort and/or support sendoffs. ALL is by invitation ONLY. It is NOT a biker group, biker club or MC-many don't even own bikes, including a few of our State Captains. We work with the military quite frequently.
I have written numerous times and posted several videos I've made about the PGR- I strongly suggest that if anyone THINKS they know what they are, go to www.patriotguard.org and be enlightened., preferrably before calling those who protect the mourners of our nation's heroes "fascists". And if that's too much trouble, click here |
01-31-2008, 11:32 AM | #17 (permalink) |
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In case you missed it, note the Canadian I circled in the picture, he looks like one of the riders.
(I couldn't resist)
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01-31-2008, 11:38 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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That's a scary group, if you'll recall. I'm firewalled from most of the sites that will give you more info, but check 'em out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
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01-31-2008, 11:43 AM | #20 (permalink) | |
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01-31-2008, 11:48 AM | #21 (permalink) | |
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My bad. Ooops. Thanks for clarifying.
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01-31-2008, 11:49 AM | #22 (permalink) | |
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This isn't at all to say that i disagree with the counter protesting. |
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01-31-2008, 11:50 AM | #23 (permalink) | |
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01-31-2008, 11:53 AM | #24 (permalink) | |
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This is all just extrapolations based on my own experiences, of course. This is an excerpt from the Iron Nation website. It's a bit overwrought, but it gets the point across. Anyone wanting to read the whole thing can find the site with a quick google search (it's the first result) but I warn you; their site is like a clinic in bad website design. Quote:
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01-31-2008, 01:11 PM | #26 (permalink) | |
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I don't find any irony in wearing the symbols of those douchebags. Last edited by Plan9; 01-31-2008 at 01:16 PM.. |
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01-31-2008, 01:41 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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Kind of off subject:
I have some friends who do the whole skin-head look (shaved head, swastikas, ss bolts, white laces, red braces, etc.) They're all hispanic and black. They do it out of spite and mockery. I don't see the point, but to each his own. On subject: I like these patriot guard folk. I'd never heard about them before this thread. I'm glad somebody's doing something about these ignorant bastards who protest funerals. And for the record, every biker I've ever met (Which is quite a few. My dad's a biker and i grew up around them.) has some kind of cause he works for. I've never understood the "bikers are horrible people" stereotype. They're stereotyped in my mind as people who pick a cause and fight hard for it.
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01-31-2008, 01:43 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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In case anyone missed it, the protesters (Westboro or otherwise) were not the Patriot Guard, which ngdawg is a part of. The Patriot Guard, while they do often ride motorcycles, is not a protest organization, and they only appear at the family's invitation. They also do not "surround" Westboro-type protesters. They create a wall between the family and the protesters.
The folks depicted in this story are not Patriot Guards, although they are doing something similar. The Iron Cross is not a Nazi symbol, and that may or may not be an SS symbol on the pictured protestor's hat. It is possible it is something entirely different, although I do agree that it does appear to be similar. Also, many who wear Nazi sybmols do so ironically - one needs to look no farther than the Sex Pistols and mid-70's punks in London who were the antithesis of Nazi's. Just thought I'd try to clear up some of the confusion in this thread since I'm one who contributed to it. Thanks for setting me straight in that PM, ng.
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01-31-2008, 01:49 PM | #30 (permalink) | |
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01-31-2008, 02:08 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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As far as the Nazi symbols, does that mean that every college kid who wears a Red Star believes in the Maoist policies that lead to the deaths of hundreds of millions?
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01-31-2008, 02:14 PM | #34 (permalink) | |
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... Good point, though. What about Stalin indirectly killing zillions of his own citizens? ... No, it's obviously an evil group popularity contest. Gotta admit, though... the Nazis were so evil that Indiana Jones had to kick their ass. Last edited by Plan9; 01-31-2008 at 02:17 PM.. |
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01-31-2008, 02:20 PM | #35 (permalink) |
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I think that there's a difference between identifying with communist ideals and identifying with nazi military police, or at the very least fascist principles. Which is to say that it's difficult to look at the nazis and say, "well, they meant well with that whole master race thing, but they were just confused."
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01-31-2008, 03:51 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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nice video of WBC members fleeing for their lives:
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01-31-2008, 04:57 PM | #40 (permalink) | |
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