Sion

what's the difference? they are both mass transit. the ONLY difference I see is the price.

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Bill O'Rights

What's the difference between ground beef and top sirloin? They are both meat. The ONLY difference I see is the price.

What's the difference between McDonald's and Delmonico's? They are both restaurants. The ONLY difference I see is the price.

What's the difference between a crack ho and $1000 per night call girl? They are both whores. The ONLY difference I see is the price.

Hey, this kinda fun. I could do this all day.

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Esoteric

So because of his age he's supposed to wear certain clothing? Please. Sure this could be seen as juvenile to some, but getting kicked off a plane because of a T-shirt like this? Ridiculous.

Willravel

If I had an airline, I wouldn't kick someone off for something as simple as the above. It's excessive. The shirt may have been in bad taste, but so is picking your nose and I swear to god everyone on every flight I've ever been on has snuck a pick and it makes me want to vomit. Why they can't just escort people off the plane that pick their noses is beyond me.

maleficent

when was flying 100K miles a year, I had a long list of things that I'd wish people could be kicked off the airlines for...

1, excessive perfume
2. Loud talkers
3. Loud talkers on cell phones
4, Annoying children
5. PArents of annoying children
6. People who coulnd't quite grasp the concept that travelling didn't mean bringing all your worldly poessessions on the airplane with you.
7. gum chewers
8. people who bring on stinky food.

the list could be much worse depending on my amount of caffeination.

On any given day, someone is going to be offended by something or someone... some of the offenses are legitimate... some well - only exist in mal's world...

Southwest is not an airline I'd ever choose to fly... their cattle call boarding policy is just one more thing that irritated me... plus I had more than one episode with them, allowing an intoxicated passenger to board, that I will never fly then again... I'd much prefer them stick to the FAA rules then to create their own rules.

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Willravel

Gum chewing? That's an interesting one. I happen to chew gum myself, and I use it when flying to assist with cabin pressure regulation in my inner ear. Also, I have a childhood association between flying and cinnamon gum (I had cinnamon gum on my first plane ride).

So it really bugs you when people chew gum on a plane? Is it that they're chewing excessively, like in an obnoxious way? Or is it just in general? I ask because I never though that gum chewing in a casual setting was such a bad thing.

maleficent

Popping gum will make me positively homicidal...
Chewing with the mouth open so the person looks like a cow chewing their cud makes me nauseous... just the sound of chewing, just grosses me out... because it sounds so - chewy and regurgitated...

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Willravel

I'll have to be more careful then. I didn't realize that might bother people. If you ever see me on a flight and I'm chewing gum, just throw something at my head. And if you're not sure if it's me, throw anyway. It's funny.

Sion

fair enough. lets look at it this way: why, in your opinion, is it ok to wear a tasteless t-shirt on a bus, but not on a low end airline?

again, what makes the difference, besides the price of the ticket?

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Terrell

I think that Southwest should have let the guy fly. I could see if he had one of those shirts from the '80s that said "No More Mr. Nice Guy, On your Knees BITCH!" (or the female equivalent "No More Ms. Nice Girl, On your Knees BASTARD"). but Master Baiter, with a guy baiting a hook? In that case I think that Southwest should lighten up a little. Why am I reminded of High School where a bunch of guys wore "beaver patrol" shirts on a day designated for groups wearing T-shirts?

flstf

I think sometime in the late '70s early '80s.

maleficent

later than that- once they stopped allowing smoking on planes -the air quality went down hill and so did service and expectations of passengers to act like air travel meant something...

Late 80s people still dressed up to fly... a person wouldn't dream of getting on a plane in pajama bottoms and fuzzy slippers like ive seen some people dress today...

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uncle phil

i could not have said this better myself...and, i continue to fly southwest whenever i can because i find their whole attitude toward the "in-flight experience" refreshing...

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Toren

From the way I see it, the shirt was nothing to get bent out of shape about. Yes, the innuendos are all there. There's many of them stacked up, but most people just get off with a glare. He did go by their rules and turn out his shirt, but seriously...

Now I have a shirt that is delightfully offensive. Every time I see it in my closet, I generally pass it over. The only time I wear it is when I'm sitting around the house, hanging out with my friends at their place, or am in certain social situations. Rarely do I wear it out in public (I have done so twice to my recollection, maybe three times - out to a bar, to a horror writing class, and maybe to a concert). There's a certain stigma attached to shirts that blatantly yell obscenities.

Now to me they're nothing but words, but I know plenty who'd get offended. So I choose not to wear it. This guy, on the other hand, had no obscenities. It was word play.

Now is that really worth getting singled out?

maleficent

Southwest doesn't seem to take itself too seriously as an airline - this is the same airline who got sued sometime in my recent memory because some passenger got their knickers in a twist because of the rhyme the flight attendant used jsut before take off... I find it somewhat amusing that an airline that is slightly irreverant in most things finds tshirts offensive...

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Yukimura

What kind of training has Southwest been putting its employees through that keeps making stuff like this happen? What really irks me more than anything about this is the sleazy bureaucracy. "...read a printed apology" and nonsense like that. The guy's too busy to give a simple phone call? "Hey, sorry about that." It says to me that he thinks he's too big to get involved with the issues of their individual customers. It also says that he is in all likelihood responsible for this in some way, but buffers it through several layers of middle management to distance himself from the actual issue and make it seem like "nobody's fault" or "company policy". Or how about the employee that actually made the mistake? If you ask me, that's the one who really needed to apologize in the first place. *sigh* Any sort of bureaucracy will quickly get me irritated though, so I guess I'm just venting a general frustration at the impersonal nature of big business.

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xepherys

First of all, I am a firm believer in freedom of speech and expression. It's juvenile, perhaps, but there are no laws that prevent the donning of such clothing. It isn't even "patently offensive", whatever that means to the PC crowd these days.

Yes, the airline is a private company, however it is also a provider of a service that is legally (oft times) defined as being necessary to the growth, well-being and economic viability of a country. Maybe the government needs to scrap Amtrak and build an airline so people don't have to put up with this shit.

I don't wear "lame humor" shirts myself, but I fully support people's rights to do so. Frankly, if someone wants to wear a shirt that says "Fuck niggers and fags", more power to them. I think they're an idiot, but I also believe that the reason people in the military die overseas is to help (okay, maybe not so much with this war, but generally speaking) ensure their freedom to do so.

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uncle phil

my "in-flight experiences" have nothing to do with some juvenile jerk-off who feels an immediate need to offend the sensibilities of his fellow travelers by wearing something most people would use to wash their cars...

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- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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you both get dirty;
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