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Old 07-02-2007, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey Guys!Whats your plan this coming Independence day?Its a big celebration, more fireworks to display and of course more food!
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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One of my friends is a bartender and is pretty much bringing the bar to his house. There's a DJ, 6 beirut tables, every other drinking game out there, and $5000 worth of liquor.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We have a friend arriving tomorrow afternoon for a visit thru the weekend, so we dont really have anything exciting planned (plane lands late in the afternoon) BUT I do get to sleep in!!!
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We are joining some friends for their traditional 4th of July Golden Corral Buffet Breakfast. Then there's stuff going on downtown that we're going to check out. Then at 7, we're going to a Greensboro Grasshoppers baseball game, which has fireworks afterward. Good times!
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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the fireworks in chicago are tonite...

tomorrow i'm testing out an 18 mile training walk... don't you just wish you were me
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm actually taking some time off of work, although I'll still be actually doing some by phone and email. Tomorrow we head to the burbs to hang out with my wife's family, and Thursday Max and I are having a boys' day while Mom goes shopping with some friends. And Friday we're going to see The Police at Wrigley with some friends.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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My girlfriend and I are going to a friend's house for a barbeque.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't think I will celebrate the American Independence... I'd rather wait ten days to celebrate Bastille Day. Though I might just still head out to the National Mall during the festivities... see the hubbub, Bub.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Since I live in this great little town (resident going on 30yrs now) ...damn it seems so ideal I hesitate to talk about it in fear of it becoming too popular... my kids and I go to the annual fireworks display at the playground. Compared to other fireworks in the Philly area, it is actually quite good. I go down in the afternoon of the 4th and plop my blanket front row center and when we head down there later we have a good view ...that's the way all the locals do it, not just me. I'll be taking my 84yo mom with us again. They give out a prize for the person there who came from the farthest place ...last year it was New Zealand. Of course we'll be bbq'ing during the day.

I didn't see this posted here but sorry if it's a repost. This youtube item is about the most awesome fireworks display I've ever seen or heard of, done by the famous Grucci family from Long Island. It's almost 10 min. long, so as you watch it keep in mind that the finale is coming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIV8KWAtQvU
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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For the past few years we've gone to the Tempe Town Lake fireworks. Best show in town! Unfortunately it's a complete bitch to find parking. And it's hotter than two rats fucking in a wool sock in the middle of a barn fire. But, if you can brave the heat, it's worth it!
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No drinks, no beef, no sodas.

I'm going to reread and study the Declaration of Independence and probably get annoyed that I can't get to sleep for work on Thursday because of the fireworks in my neighborhood. I like how instead of celebrating freedom, liberty, and democracy, we celebrate the explosives used in the war for those ideals.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I like how instead of celebrating freedom, liberty, and democracy, we celebrate the explosives used in the war for those ideals.
I don't know about you, will, but that's not what I celebrate on the 4th at all. The fireworks are a showpiece of celebration. Just because an electrical fire could occur doesn't mean I won't have toast in the morning. Just because fireworks go "boom" doesn't mean it's a celebration of violence. *shrug*
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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At work, initially was hoping to leave by midday, but with how things are going it's looking like another 13 hour workday. When I do escape I think BBQ elk steaks and vodka martinis with blue curacao and cherries floated on them will be my symbolic 4th of July gesture. Then, I'll call the police on any kids setting off fireworks since we haven't had ANY rain since mid-June.

Just 5 years ago I was that douchebag setting off fireworks out of beer bottles in the alleyway during a heavy drought year.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't know about you, will, but that's not what I celebrate on the 4th at all. The fireworks are a showpiece of celebration. Just because an electrical fire could occur doesn't mean I won't have toast in the morning. Just because fireworks go "boom" doesn't mean it's a celebration of violence. *shrug*
My neighborhood is particularly bad as far as fireworks. Thy scare the dog, and they go on past midnight. It really tries my patience.

Fireworks, as I understand it, were originally meant to scare off evil spirits, but were eventually used to celebrate war victories by simulating the sounds of combat.
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:07 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I'll probably be going over to my moms house for some food and fun, and perhaps some fireworks.

And to go along with willravel's idea, here is the body of the Declaration of Independence. It is something all of us, as Americans, should be familar with. This used to be read every fourth of July, but that tradition died years ago. Perhaps it is something we should bring back.

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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

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Old 07-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
That's brilliant. Truly brilliant.

I have, because of the men who drafted this document, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And so today I will remember that while I go down to the blues festival in town, and watch the fireworks tonight. Celebrating who we are as Americans is what this day is about, as much as it is about the men who gave us these rights. Whatever it means to be an American to you--that's what to think about today. To me, it means joining my fellow countrymen in celebrating this great land of ours, even in times when we seem so far away from their great ideal.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well... I dont really have any mental place or impact for the 4th July, although I suppose it is the day we lost one of our colonies. (or a celebration of the fact anyway.)

As for the declaration of independance... I wouldnt disrespect it, but you have to bare in mind when they said all men are equal - exactly how they defined "man"... it certainly didnt refer to slaves, it certainly didnt refer to women, it certainly didn't refer to the indentured servant class.

At the same time as the war of independance was a war of freedom for the colonialists from financial exploitation from Europe, and at the same time as there is a real sense of tabula rasa... it is also a war and a movement that lead to far greater violence against, and the eventual effective destruction of the native people.

But there is nothing wrong with it just being a day for fireworks and beers, and celebrating what the country means to each individual. I found even in my short stay in America that patriotic feelings are acceptable and common there, far more so than in the UK, and I think that is broadly a good thing. It is good to feel proud of where you are from, as long as it is not a careless of unquestioning pride.
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Old 07-05-2007, 06:28 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I'm going to reread and study the Declaration of Independence and probably get annoyed that I can't get to sleep for work on Thursday because of the fireworks in my neighborhood. I like how instead of celebrating freedom, liberty, and democracy, we celebrate the explosives used in the war for those ideals.
And don't forget shooting the fireworks off to the 1812 Overture, since there's nothing more American than a song about the Russians defeating the French.
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Old 07-05-2007, 05:29 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't need much excuse to party and any nationality will do. So now I'm looking forward to Bastille Day coming up soon. Similar theme: dump the royals.
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Old 07-04-2009, 03:49 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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to celebrate the day that the 56 men of the continental congress threw aside the chains of tyranny and embraced their independence, it will be pool party with the neighbors, brats on the grill, a cold beer or two, and american fellowship with those around me.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:27 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Having a pool party here. Burgers, brats, potato salad, beers. Invited all the US citizens I know living down here. Lot's of Canadians here not that many people from the US. No offense to the Canadians living here but I'm tried of hearing how the US is screwing up the planet. I'm guessing 20-25 people will be here. Went down yesterday and found out what $50 could get you in fireworks in Mexico. Turns out it's a lot. Should be able to light up the sky later tonight.
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...SOUNDS LIKE GREAT FUN! (...and i hear what you're saying about the canadians...not all...but enough)

...I'm baking a raspberry-blackberry pie and a peach cobbler (with vanilla ice-cream), and making an unusual presentation of a raw vegetable platter (jicama spears, par-boiled and chilled asparagus, red bell pepper spears, more...dip will be in a huge hollowed out red cabbage placed in center) with dip which i'll be taking over to my sister's for a cookout, hamburgers, hotdogs, chicken, potato salad, watermelon, baked beans, deviled eggs...all the traditional foods...

...BIG family gathering and a low-key display of fireworks since the children are small. Uncle Chuck will be doing magic tricks as usual, the little ones will perform their talents (sooooo adorable they are), family baseball for those so inclined (i can catch and i'm not bad with a bat but i can't throw a ball for the life of me...i'll still get out there if they'll have me though...tennis is more my style...give be a racquet in the outfield and i'll nail every one)
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mmmmm Shell, I wish I could come to your delicious party!!! mmmmmmmmm I love peach cobbler.
Normally we spend the 4th with my husband's best friend's family, create our own fireworks display, then climb onto the roof to watch the city fireworks. This year we're not quite sure what to do with ourselves, since we're a couple thousand miles away from those friends. We'll figure out something.
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a guy at work wanted to spend the 4th with his family, and since i dont have anyone, i took his shift for him. i will be working on saturday. the 4th of july is just another day. i don't mind, fireworks bore me. the REAL holiday on the 4th of july is the beginning of the Tour de France!!!!!!!
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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A lake-side jam last night, a bbq tonight, jammin' at a different lake tomorrow...

Happy Independence Day, America! Hope everyone has fun and stays safe. Be responsible with those fireworks!
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Old 07-04-2009, 08:29 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #33 (permalink)
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We're having a small get-together at my place this year.

I've been slow-cooking a brisket since last night (now done), and I put on the ribs this morning to slow cook, then I'll finish them off on the grill.
We'll also grill burgers, sausages and bacon-wrapped, cream cheese stuffed jalapenos.
Also, the usual side dishes.
My mom's bringing her famous banana pudding. (I could eat that all day)

Tonight we'll watch the Boston Pop's July 4th tv show, and if it's not too dry, we'll pop fireworks ourselves.
All in all, it'll be a good time.


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Old 07-04-2009, 08:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I BBQ'd chicken, hot dogs, and corn for everybody. Had beer. It was a good 4th of July.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:05 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I spend the entire day from about 7am to 7pm working on building a patio for my house until it started raining too hard I was afraid of getting electrocuted and had to stop. Most night time plans were cancelled due to weather but that was fine with me. I was too damn tired and went to bed anyway. Maybe we'll do something tonight.
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Did you do this again this year or do you have it down pat now?
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