biznatch

Cops shoulda sold the car, used that money for real education against drugs.

I can't say I'm surprised though.

Lasereth

Yeah they're not even gonna "use" the car. Sell the thing for $40-50k or so and use the money for actual D.A.R.E. stuff. It should have been seized but what a waste of money.

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krwlz

I gotta jump on the "Fuck the Police, they should not have that car" wagon. Removing it from that dumbasses possesion.... Eh, maybe. Revoking his license and prosecuting him to the full extent of the law, by all means. But in my opinion, unless it is an illegal substance, the police have no right to confiscate anything. Ever.

Fuck em, they just saw an opportunity to good to pass up and said to themselves "hmmm, how can I personally profit from this".

Again... Fuck the Police.

dksuddeth

It's Illinois, enough said.

You have no property rights basically.

Illinois authorities do what they want, when they want, however they want. A true communistic state pretty much.

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Terrell

I don't support the police taking his car, but then again, I'm very much against asset forfieture laws. I do agree that this guy should lose his driver license, and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but short of forfeiture of assets. I also think that the cops are taunting him somewhat, and I don't think that the cops should ever taunt.

Psycho Dad

I can support the police departments actions in taking the car within the guidelines of the law. But the flaunting of it is another matter altogether.

Seeing the DARE cop drive up to the school playground in this thing isn't in my opinion going to stop a kid from taking up drugs or alcohol at some point. Using the proceeds from the car's sale to educate or provide positive experiences for the children in the DARE program would have been a better use of this car.

How warm and fuzzy would we all be if the CIA or FBI were to take up such tactics?

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Willravel

The word you're looking for is fascist, not communist. I'm sure you're familiar with the principle of common ownership. Marx described communism as a continuation of the society humans had during our hunter-gatherer stage, which is considered by many anthropologists to be a human's natural social state. Having no rights or having property seized is not a part of communism.

If you're going to bash communism, use actual things that would happen in a real communist state. Stalin wouldn't have sacked this guy's viper. He may have been purged, but that's another thread.

Gonth

How many people get to keep their cars after running from the police? I'm betting very few, if any. If you have any stat’s to refute this assumption by all means I want to see them, I just have a hard time believing it happens much.

I can't help but feel like the main reason you all are up in arms about this is because it is an expensive car. Police all over the country impound property every day, from houses to stereos. If it is involved in a felony they can, and probably will, take it.

As far as whether or not they should be able to... This is a law that can probably get abused very easily. They should probably stick with revoking the license because there wouldn’t be a greed factor involved.

As to what they do with the car now that they have it, I figure D.A.R.E. is probably just as good use as selling it. The 40-50 grand they could get would probably be funneled into some other, just as useless, anti-drug program. Now, if they were going to use the money to, say, get better body armor, sweet.

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Terrell

That such a law can easily be abused, is why I don't support forfeiture laws. In this case it looks like the fleeing charge should stick, however, it's far too easy to allege that a piece of property was used in a felony (especially drug ones) whether or not it was used in said felony. It's also possible for the government to take your property (if you're accused of a drug crime) without ever convicting you of a crime (or even indicting you). I have a real problem with that.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...gs/hidden.html

Superbelt

I'm cool with the seizure of the car. That kind of speeding in a low-speed, residential community is pretty abhorrent.
But I don't like seeing a PD just take it and use it for their own purposes.
Public institutions should be providing an example, and a low MPG luxury sports car isn't a good example for anything.

At the very least the car should have gone to auction and the PD be forced to bid on it against others.

Cynthetiq

NYC uses lots of seized vehicles... from Porches to Benzes. They use them for undercover work. The best one I love to see is the NYC yellow taxi... they catch speeders with that one all the time. I can pick it out of a crowd because the taxi cab number on the top doesn't match the license plate.

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Menoman

legal or illegal its kinda lame they aren't going to auction it off.

Sure they get 50-60 crappy cars for every really nice car they seize, but the money they could have gotten from that 1 car would have been as much as 20 shitty cars

Instead, they will ask for more grants from the state, tax dollars moving from paychecks into state funds ETC...

Would have been much more for the 'public' than a DARE program that I really doubt helps do shit.

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Leto

Nope, there is no argument. It's all good. Hope he was fined as well. The OPP caught two corvette drivers last week. Looks like their cars may have a date with the crusher:

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/227997 :

Hwy. 400 racers hit 200 km/h: police


Two American Corvette drivers have court appearance today

Jun 21, 2007 04:14 PM
Justin Piercy
Staff Reporter
Just days after a man was killed as a result of street racing on Highway 400, two people have been charged for allegedly doing the same thing.
A York Regional police officer on his way into work noticed two black Corvettes weaving in and out of traffic at speeds in upwards of 200 km/h around 4:30 p.m. yesterday.

Uniformed officers stopped both cars at Highway 9 and Yonge St. in Newmarket and arrested the drivers.

Police say since both cars were seized because they were modified.

William Henry Casey, 22, of Wilmington, Delaware and Brandon William Edmundson, 23, of Peoria, Arizona have each been charged with dangerous operation of a motor vehicle, racing a motor vehicle on a highway and operating a vehicle radar warning device.

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Ironically that happened just days after a truck driver was killed on the same hiway as a result of racing:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...s.html?ref=rss

3 charged in fatal Highway 400 crash
Last Updated: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 | 4:50 PM ET

CBC News

Three young men face charges following Monday's fatal crash on Highway 400 north of Toronto that killed a tractor-trailer driver and closed the busy road for more than 12 hours.

Eleven charges have been laid against the three, including dangerous driving causing death and dangerous driving while racing, said Ontario Provincial Police Const. Dave Woodford.

He said the suspects could face up to 14 years in prison if convicted.

Witnesses reported several cars speeding and weaving through traffic, causing the tractor-trailer to lose control. The tractor-trailer slammed into a guardrail, then swerved across the northbound lanes and ended up in the ditch.

David Virgoe, 48, of Simcoe was pronounced dead at the scene of the collision.

The truck driver was hailed by some as a hero for veering away from traffic and saving lives in the process.

The incident happened around 11:30 a.m. near Bradford and closed the highway until midnight.

Premier Dalton McGuinty, commenting on the latest major accident on the north-south highway, compared a car to a "loaded gun" that must be treated with caution.

The crash occurred just kilometres away from the site of a weekend accident police also blamed on street racing. It left 11 people in hospital.