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jmf1234 06-14-2003 05:55 PM

Women drowns self because her newborn was a girl
 
Now this is plain stupid: LINK

i think it proves just how scared some women are of their spouses. It's pretty sad.

spectre 06-14-2003 06:01 PM

For those who don't want to click links:
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Egyptian woman drowns self after having baby girl

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- An Egyptian woman married to a man with six daughters from previous marriages drowned herself Saturday just hours after giving birth to a girl because she feared her husband's reaction to fathering another daughter.

The 27-year-old woman left her home in Saff, a rural town about 25 miles [40 kilometers] south of the Egyptian capital, Cairo, and drowned herself in an irrigation canal three hours after giving birth to her second daughter, police officials told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Before his wife gave birth, her husband had threatened to kill or divorce her if the couple had any more daughters, police said.

Society in rural Egypt is largely conservative, and many parents often prefer having sons to daughters for cultural and economical reasons.

Divorce is also considered a taboo in such areas. Many women would rather their husband take a second wife than be divorced.

The husband, 38, had been married three times before. In each case, he divorced his wives after they gave birth to girls.
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Mael 06-14-2003 06:02 PM

hmmm... i figured it was gonna be in india, based on your thread title. doesn't suprise me too much, still.

krwlz 06-14-2003 06:04 PM

Pretty screwed up for sure from our standpoint, but its their culture, and we are looking in from the outside.

gov135 06-14-2003 06:05 PM

i always TELL my girlfriend she's to bear me sons... but its a joke.

Funny how men refuse to believe that THEY actually determine the sex of the baby.

06-14-2003 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by gov135


Funny how men refuse to believe that THEY actually determine the sex of the baby.

Funny in a sad way....

Even without scientific evidence, wouldn't basic logic(four wives, only girl babies) make the guy think maybe it was him?
How does the patriarchy survive its own pig-headedness?

Mupwah 06-14-2003 06:52 PM

I believe the male carries the chromosome that determines the sex of a child. Henry the 8th had the same problem. I think he cut off the heads of some wives because he was upset that they kept having girls.

WhoaitsZ 06-14-2003 07:14 PM

what a sore loser.

gibber71 06-14-2003 07:21 PM

Well I just don't know.At times you think that every country in the world is getting closer and closer,then you realize exactly how far apart we all really are.

BBtB 06-14-2003 07:37 PM

I just wanna know what the big deal about having boys is? Even in those back water places like... egypt and ... england. I mean so you have girls.. Could always start a prositution ring. Or have a bake sale. Either way.

Gortexfogg 06-14-2003 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BBtB
I just wanna know what the big deal about having boys is?
I don't know about Egypt, but in India you've got to have a son or you're screwed for eternity. In Hindu, they require a son to perform a certain cermony at the funeral so the father's soul can be safe in the after life.
Also, sons in third world countries are retirement. They more, the better a couple will be taken care of when they grow older.

mirevolver 06-15-2003 11:35 AM

my first thought was China with their "one child" law, but didn't realize how bad things are in Egypt.

Although I do realize how important it is to have a son in Muslim society.

TaLoN 06-15-2003 11:47 AM

girls cost ALOT more than guys. clothes, makeup, jewelry.... plus they talk alot more & are moody; i definately hope to have sons instead of daughters

YourNeverThere 06-15-2003 12:21 PM

i hope i have a son as well, but i wont go nuts if i dont. Also im sort of sickly glad that she killed her self and not the baby, at least the girl will live hopefully

Memalvada 06-15-2003 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaLoN
girls cost ALOT more than guys. clothes, makeup, jewelry.... plus they talk alot more & are moody; i definately hope to have sons instead of daughters
For these same reasons i'd prefer to have sons than daughters, although in the end i wouldn't really mind.

And kill/divorce your wife for giving birth to girls? WTF? I know its a totally different society, but still, it seems very fanatical on the man's behalf to threaten his wife that way.

The_Dude 06-15-2003 12:38 PM

i'd like to blame this on religion

World's King 06-15-2003 01:01 PM

Wow, girls aren't that bad... are they?

Angel 06-15-2003 02:58 PM

Although I know there are certain cultural aspect involved here, I believe there is also a HUGE issue of ego here.

I can't imagine being in a position where I would take my own life rather than face a "man" (and I use the term lightly) simply because I didn't bear the child of his preference.

Not to mention, I would have moved heaven and earth to have had a daughter in addition to my son.
Meh... Perhaps my two pennies are a little bias...;)

warrrreagl 06-16-2003 06:26 AM

I remember a conversation I had with a fireman after a gruesome murder-suicide between a mother and her two kids in our hometown years ago. This guy had seen enough carnage to have earned the following opinion on the situation:

"At least that gene pool is dried up. Now her kids won't grow up to have screwed-up lives and have more screwed-up kids."

You gotta admit it's an interesting viewpoint.

rogue49 06-16-2003 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TaLoN
girls cost ALOT more than guys. clothes, makeup, jewelry.... plus they talk alot more & are moody; i definately hope to have sons instead of daughters
dude, I hope you don't really believe that.
both daughters & sons are equally difficult to raise, over the long run
each has their difficult timeperiods.
each has their own issues.
each has their costs.

if you treat them as equals that is.

Double D 06-16-2003 08:45 AM

So I suppose then, that we have to take out the *father.*


Quote:

Originally posted by warrrreagl
I remember a conversation I had with a fireman after a gruesome murder-suicide between a mother and her two kids in our hometown years ago. This guy had seen enough carnage to have earned the following opinion on the situation:

"At least that gene pool is dried up. Now her kids won't grow up to have screwed-up lives and have more screwed-up kids."

You gotta admit it's an interesting viewpoint.


Double D 06-16-2003 08:51 AM

[OUOTE]girls cost ALOT more than guys. clothes, makeup, jewelry.... plus they talk alot more & are moody; i definately hope to have sons instead of daughters[/QUOTE]


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Pointless to argue with persons that make mindless statements like this...

snowace56 06-16-2003 10:01 AM

Not that I hate girls or anything I just never want to have girls because I'm afraid they will turn out like my sister. **shiver**

Tirian 06-16-2003 12:02 PM

I have 2 boys, but my sister has 3 girls and a boy. The other night I had a dream that they all came to live with us. (God forbid anything happen to my sister or her hubby), This was a real nightmare, not that I had daugthers or sons, but that I had 3 of each :-)

eyeseepeedude 06-16-2003 12:40 PM

some people just weren't meant to have children

viveleroi0 06-16-2003 02:34 PM

I hate it when people decide what they want for economical reasons. Fuck that man... you take what you can get.

Somenosuke 06-16-2003 06:15 PM

That is very, very sad. I have come across a number of people (close friends, acquaintances, etc) who say they want sons and not daughters when they're old/stable enough to have kids. I never really understood the apparent over-emphasis on the importance of having boys. Maybe I'll never understand it.

I don't really intend to ever have kids, but I figure (at least in the US), people should be happy with what they get, boy or girl. There's so many people who can't even have kids and would probably give anything just to be able to conceive one. Whining about whether you have a boy or a girl seems really silly to me.

cowudders14 06-17-2003 04:07 PM

My god. That's all I can say. I feel sorry for the bloke as much as the woman. The woman - that she shoud be under that kind of pressure and have to live and die under such an oppresive regime. The man for having either the naievity to think he could dictate the sex of his offspring and punish the women involved if he did not get what he wanted, and also that he should feel that it was so important - he must lead such an insecure and empty life. Sad. Very, very sad.


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