19 Year-Old Accused of Microwaving 2-Month old Baby (UPDATED)
 

What on Earth is wrong with some people? I am pretty unemotional toward a lot of crimes that are committed in this world (not lacking empathy, though), but this story just enraged me. What is the thought process that goes on in someone's head that he would put his own baby inside a microwave?!?
Stories like these just strengthen my anti-religious, somewhat pessimistic view of humanity. A two month old baby in a MICROWAVE!
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Some people are batshit crazy. Thankfully, they make up a miniscule (albeit very noticable) part of society.

I don't get it. Okay, so you can't handle having a baby, fine. There are options. Take the baby and drop it off at the hospital, police department, firestation etc. Take the baby to a government agency. Or for god's sake, wrap the baby in a blanket, put it in it's car seat, stroller, whatever and go to a house that you see people in, leave the baby ring the bell and run. Make sure someone has the baby and leave!! There is no excuse! I'm not saying my above suggestions are appropriate, but they are certainly more humane than putting a baby in the microwave!! I am absolutely shocked at the stupidity of so many people. I really wish you had to have a license or something to have a baby and that certain people were banned from procreating, it's disgusting.

There will always be people who are mentally unbalanced... hopefully he'll get beat up every day he's in jail for the rest of his life, if someone doesn't kill him.

I hope he dies a slow and painful death and that the poor child recovers and gets a real parent.

Before someone chimes in about this shitstain "finally being able to get the help that he so desperatly needs"...I want to take a moment to declare no punishment too cruel and/or unusual in this case. Hopefully, getting beaten up in jail every day for the rest of his life, is the part of the day that he actually has to look forward to. It'll take his mind off of his stretched and bleeding anus.

That's harsh.


And I agree 100% :grumpy:

Maybe somebody makes a microwave big enough for an "adult" to fit into?

Wow, this makes me sick. How could anyone do this to another life? That poor baby, I hope that it grows up with no problems due to this, no scars or permanent damage.

And as far as him saying he had a message from God, I hate it when people do that because people tend to brand everyone who believes in God with the same brush. There are just as many insane atheists as there are insane Christians.

at least that baby is alive, this one article from last year wasn't so fortunate.

everytime you think that humans reach a new low, remember they can still get even lower.

this makes me think we everyone should be sterilized at birth, and have to get a license to breed. just saying...

Why?

Break enough bones...dislocate enough joints...he'll fit.

I entered this thread to defend the 19-year old woman, who I figured was clearly suffering from postpartum psychosis. Then I saw it was the father, not the mother.

Now I'm confused. You have to have serious mental issues to do this, right?

Sick bastard.

Hmm...

See, I just threw a bag of popcorn into the microwave... I don't wanna eat it now.

yeah....i don't even understand how that thought germinates in one's mind. he must be fucking cookoo...but...jeez. you hear about something like this, and you wonder what else he's done that he hasn't been caught for...i mean, do you go straight to baby in the microwave? that's just plain old fucked up.

this disturbs me

You'd have defended a person with suspected psychosis is it was a female but not a male?

Males are perfectly capable of being crazy.

Also, are you saying it's MORE crazy that the father did it than the mother? It's mental illness either way you slice it.

How....why...what the hell

This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach.

This shouldn't fuel anti-religious feelings, it should fuel anti-stupid people feelings! He obviously knew what he did was wrong, or he wouldn't lie about it to law enforcement. And to claim that "God" told him something - yeesh, put the bastard in jail with God-hating Bubba.

I could understand when, 30 plus years ago, people put their just washed pets in the microwave to "dry them off", because they didn't understand what "microwaves" actually were. But in this day and age - man, that's just inexcusably sick.

Book thrown by judge, I request.

I just still can't fathom this story. When I first read it, I got chills and an urge to drive to Texas, find this "human", and personally drive a rusty metal object into him.
There is just no excuse for this at all. No disease or condition can explain this. Even though I am not religious, the judge will certainly say at his sentencing, "May God have mercy on your soul."

I guess we can take some relief in the fact that even prisoners have morals and guys like these do not last long at all. Jeffrey Dahmer (I'm sure everyone knows who he is) survived one murder attempt in prison but was killed by the next attempt.

maybe the baby was cold

whenever my foods cold i just stick it in the microwave for a few seconds and wa-la its warm again











on a serious note though, that is pretty fucked up
what a dumbshit, you have to be mentally retarded to do something like that to your OWN CHILD

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/20/bab....ap/index.html

they should be working to have his head severed

Damn, you beat me to posting the update.

I thought the wife was a victim at first, but it seems now she is as big a dumbass as her husband is.

It is things like the comment above that give to cause to seriously reevaluate my position on forced sterilization. Some people just don't need to have kids...ever.

crazy finds crazy. i'd also be willing to bet dollars to doughnuts she's no stranger to the backside of a hand. with these things, it usually is a chicken or the egg thing in my experience; were they individually crazy and then hooked up, or did they just bring it out in each other. normally the person you're with should say 'you know that 'god talks to me in the blowdryer bit? yeah, that's fucking crazy. get some meds...' in this case, they say 'really? did he tell you whether we should microwave the baby?'

so, yeah. fucked up shizzle there.

Honestly, I have no idea, still. Even more so with the further update. I was just posting my initial reaction.

Well, she won't be the first (or the last, unfortunately) mentally ill person to blame the devil for her actions.

Well, now...that is a mighty convenient way to slough off responsibility.

"But...but...but, it wasn't me! It was...[scaryvoice]SAAATAAAN[/scaryvoice]

"Oh...well, then...OK. Not your bad."

sorry BOR I dont hear that in an Evil Voice hehehe I hear it in the Church Lady voice (Dana Carvey)

When was the last time the Higher Being excuse worked for anybody except the President?

this shit aint right, there are some really messed up people in this world

Update: Baby leaves hospital

Cut his dick off and leave it on the road.

watch the MythBusters, they made a microwave gun out of several microwave's innards!

that's extremely messed up.
call me a bleeding heart liberal and tell me that i am fucked up too if you like but i just don't get why people's reaction to stories like this is to inflict pain and violence - it isn't going to help. it's not like a kicking (or worse) is going to make the guy feel remorse, he might regret doing it because now he is suffering pain, but it isn't going to help his mental condition any. in fact i reckon it'll make it worse which is not a good thing for when he eventually gets released.
lots of the posts above have stated the obvious, that this guy is seriously mental ill, therefore he needs help or perhaps a better word for it is fixed - this guy needs fixed so that he doesn't do any more fucked up things to people and while he is getting fixed he needs to be kept away from the general public. vigilante violence is a predictable but a thoroughly missed placed response.

anyway i really hope that the child recovers fully and is given as much help as she needs to live a normal life away from her messed up parents.

f.

Well.. where was the daddy?
Pretty much the parents are to blame. oh course there are exceptions but.. :no:

Maybe not, but it would sure make me feel better. This guy is messed up in the head. He needs to be put to death. Not as a punishment but because he simply will never be well. We don't need to pay to house him for 80 years. We do NOT need to ever let him walk the streets again. And I can tell you as a matter of experience, deranged people are rarely happy. We would be putting him out of his misery as well I am sure. Put him down like a sick dog... and keep a close eye on the mother.

"Maybe not, but it would sure make me feel better"

mmmm BBtB not sure this is the kinda of sentiment that the judicial system is (or should be) based on! ;) that's what elimination reality television is for

What a dickhead.

OMG! He seriously had to be sick in the head to even think that would have been a good idea. He was 19 for crying out loud! Old enough to know better, unless he was sick in the head like I assume. If that's the case, then why in the hell was the baby in his care?! I cannot believe people these days... :shakehead:

convicted and punished.

"There is no excuse for your actions and I hate that one day you will be set free and allowed to move on with your life while Ana continues to pay for your actions," she told Mauldin during her emotional victim impact statement Wednesday.

that's the most fucked up part....

So was he let off easy, since there would be no punishment too cruel and/or unusual in this case? Can we not just cut his dick off and leave it on the road after driving a rusty metal object into him? Well, hopefully he will get beat up every day he's in jail, if someone doesn't kill him; it sure would take his mind off of his stretched and bleeding anus.

But maybe we aren’t satisfied with this. Should they break his bones and dislocate his joints to fit him in a microwave after all? Or should they just sever his head? Well, neither, if we want him to die a slow and painful death.


What a failure of justice this is. We had so many excellent ideas here—ideas that speak this man’s very language—ideas perhaps akin to his own mental processes. After all, those capable of such thoughts and actions have no place in civil society, not even behind bars.

He should've gotten life. I don't support cruel or unusual punishment, torture or the capital punishment. He should've gotten life in prison, though. Twenty five years, only 12 of which have to be served before parole? FUCK!

Who says he will get paroled? Just because he's eligibile, doesn't mean it'll be granted to him.

Not like he's a high-risk child microwaver anyway....

It was his first child-microwaving offense. Do we know of a cure for pedomicrowaviphiles?



(I know, I need to drop this and be more serious about it. I promise, this is the last one.)

I can't imagine that any guard or inmate with kids in whatever prison he's going to are going to be especially motivated to take it easy on this guy. The best thing for everyone involved is for him to serve his time in protective custody, which is apparently harder time because of all the limitations.

And I have a hard time believing that a Texas parole board, even one 12 years away, would have a hard time denying parole after getting a letter from the victim asking them to keep him in.

Well, if the guy cant stop the devil making him try to kill his own child in a awful and grusome manner - I wouldnt have thought he would make much of a preacher in any sense.

If the child lives it is not appropriate that he swings for it, but I think you have to look at a life with no parole for 30 years for something like this.

It is cases like this that still perplex me how so many can turn their noses up to the death sentence. This guy is clearly sick, he cooked his fucking kid for fuck's sake. You think that can be fixed? You think this can be doctored up so he'll never do this or any other equally fucked up thing like this ever again?

are you fucking kidding me?

kill him
kill him now
and fucking get over it you fucking bleeding hearts

GAH this pisses me off

this kind of sickness can't be fixed AFTER his innocent child is scarred for life, AFTER the permanent damage has been done

repairing his mental illness NOW is too fucking late

so this young man had a fucked up life .. it made him absofrikkinlutely stupid in the head, to the point of thinking that COOKING HIS CHILD was a good fucking idea!!! .. deep down .. WAY the fuck deep down .. I sincerely feel bad for this guy and his fucked up life that led him to this decision

but you know what .. boo fuckin hoo

there were CLEAR signs in this guy's youth that certainly had to point to "that guy is fucked up in the head" and someone ignored it .. hell .. several people did .. and those people are equally to blame for not getting this guy the help he needed to prevent this kind of thing from ever happening .. but NOW is too late to try and fucking fix it .. the damage is already done

make him pay the price for nearly killing his child and get the fuck over it

execute him already .. GAH

How can the death penalty be applied when the victim is not dead?

Institutionalize him.
Institutionalize him now.
Get over it you people who want blood instead of justice.

Gah.

Giving him mental health care may (if it is of sufficient quality) be the best thing for him, and it may be the best thing in terms of making society safe from him re-offending.

The point is he must be punished to satisfy the victim, the victims new family, and society in general.

The point of the justic system is not only to protect society, it is also to carry out vengence on behalf of the powerless.

Nope, pretty much just justice in the justice system. It's right there in the name.

was I too emotionally passionate that time?
my bad

touche mate :thumbsup:

the "Gah" at the end there was an especially nice touch :D

No worries.

In all fairness, I should apologize for my outburst in this thread. For starters, I just recently discovered some terrible news of a personal nature and it put me in somewhat of a foul mood. Nothing to fret over, all is actually resolving well enough on that front now, but it is a simple explanation to PART of my emotionally charged post.

This guy clearly needs professional help .. not the death penalty .. I concede that. I was upset by personal matters AND the fact that this nutjob tried to cook his frikkin kid. The mental state of someone capable of that is extremely disturbing and in all honesty, I was actually trying to be somewhat facetious. I can see now how my post may not have seemed as such.

Sadly, the death sentence is most likely all this guy will effectively get though, considering he got .. what was it, 25 years or so? He won't last that long. Some other nutjob will hear about his case and either fall in love and keep him sequestered in the shower or shank him when they've had their own version of "justice" determined. Terrible situation all around. :shakehead:

Does the state of the US Prison give you the idea that it is just?

(and not especially the US system, pick any country)

I could write books about posting under the influence of *grr*.
It's supposed to be, even though it isn't.

People dont want it to be.

I dont know about in the US, but in the UK every other week you read articles about prison being like a hotel or a holiday camp (it isnt)

People feel threatened by hostile forces, real or imagined, and they want to see the violence of the state brought against them... this is the will of the people.

I say this with all due respect to those people: they can go fornicate.

We're better than vengeance as policy, and anyone who thinks differently needs to do some serious reflection on why they want to harm others.

*turns pale*
Sometimes I really hate people. This news makes me sick to my stomach. How could someone do something so terrible? I really don't understand people sometimes.
*shudders*
And my mom wonders why sometimes I just don't want to read the newspaper...heh.

Well mom gets life.... justice served? Maybe.

It is near impossible for me to meet any understanding at all on the level of cruelty that was put on the lives of the most innocent people there possibly could be. It is impossible for me to have any sort of remorse for the criminals who committed these awful crimes. I try to be understanding of others as a rule, this I fail to understand. There is no punishment that could be so just for this. Even in seeking revenge and damaging the criminals in the same manner that they caused to their victims, it isn't the same. It doesn't bring the victims back to where they were, it doesn't heal their wounds.

At the end of the day, no matter how many answers they give to justify their actions, they will have to answer to themselves and perhaps some deity if they have faith in that sort of thing. I honestly don't believe that I could live with myself having done what they had done, death for myself would come easy.

They've got a red and white arm band with a funny swirly black cross on it when you invent one.
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The things you value... :shakehead:

How can a baby fit in a microwave!!?

You might have to cut it into little pieces first. That, or use a larger microwave.

It's things like this that drop my faith in humanity. Although it's a freak occurrence as people don't normally microwave their babies... The question is in my mind - is it worth saving people who are this far out of whack? At what point in time is it too far gone, and where we should just cut society's losses by running the death penalty? Seriously - how much tax payer money must be thrown at a basically hopeless cause? It's not from a position of vengeance or anger, or even satisfaction. More from a practicality and efficiency standpoint - is there any true value salvaging him? Take the feelings out of the picture for a moment - hell if I was ever this far gone - please do me a favour and get rid of me.

It may be cheaper to house someone in prison for life than to pay the cost of appeals that usually follow a death sentence.

I'm curious. And I say this as a person who opposes capital punishment in almost all cases.

Everyone keeps saying "this guy needs help." Has anyone ever heard of a case where someone who was -this- brainfucked, self-centered, and stupid -ever- got -any- better? I haven't. Charlie Manson is still Charlie Manson, Richard Speck stayed Richard Speck, and something tells me that no amount of therapy is going to "fix" someone who thinks nuking a baby to keep her quiet is acceptable behavior or a good idea. This guy is either a sociopath or a complete and utter idiot, and in neither case does he ever need to inflict himself upon society again.

We shoot rabid dogs, because they can't be cured and can only injure, kill, and infect their victims. No help for them exists, and none is likely. And frankly, I'd continue to trust my 12-bore to deal with such problems; I'd have to see a -LOT- of successes before I'd take home a "formerly rabid" dog. I find myself wondering at times whether we shouldn't handle certain people the same way. If they cannot be fixed (and I don't think this kind of headfuck can be), they remain a significant danger to those around them. If we cannot shoot them, we should at very least cage them until they die.

Perhaps you should reconsider your user name.