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Culture of Fear: 0, Science: 1 - Drug rape myth exposed
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Date rape drug = not a big risk. It kinda figures that people would blame the boogey man for their irresponsible behavior.
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-Tamerlain |
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GHB remains in the system for 1 - 2 days. Ketamine (slang: "K", "Special K", "Vitamin K") remains in the system for 2 - 4 days. The specific amount of time for each of these to leave your body is different, and since benzodiazepines are water-solluble (a biology term, not meaning they dissolve in water as a pill), they are excreted in the urine after being used. The quicker the researchers get a urine sample, the higher the success rate of finding the drug in the system. For a woman, especially one with lower body weight, it can take more than enough time for the drug to leave the system and the hospital to catch it- keep in mind that the women studied will either have gone right to the hospital after the rape, or the next morning. Either way, there should be more than sufficient evidence to detect its presence. |
Wow, that is really interesting stuff. If it's not a drug, then the person drinking heavily is to blame?? Only partially I guess.
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I can attest to the blackout issue. I am one of those people who completely lose large portions of a night after to much alcohol and reading this is not surprising to me. Once I lose the night, I lose the night. i remember nothing and can only piece together it slightly from little clues I find (and my camera). This just proves that as a female, you need not put yourself in this situation or if you might let it happen, its absolutely necessary to surround yourself with those you trust and hope they will ensure your safety (but even thats still risky).
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Hair tests are a way of determining if drugs were used in this type of situation, and those results will come up for a much longer period of time.
Not only, but if they decided to cut their hair, on their entire body, every square inch. They can shave off a layer of fingernail and test that and it'll come upw ith the results as well. |
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I love that you have your camera to document that which you have forgotten. There is a great concept piece in there somewhere: Fragments of a forgotten Binge -- or something like that. Most likely would be really boring but I bet you could come up with a really cool angle for it. |
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Live and learn avoidance.
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I guess the appellate courts will be loaded up with cases now.
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Charlie - Have improved considerably, just wanted you to know =) Ask WK, Im trying to keep that shit in line.
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alcohol == date rape drug.
If a girl is drunk as hell it is still rape. |
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Indeed, no one here (or in the study) is arguing that taking advantage of someone who is not in a position to make level-headed decisions is rape. However, how much alcohol is consumed is something one can control, whereas being literally drugged is not.
Recognizing that there are things someone can do to lessen their chances of becoming a victim is not minimizing the tragedy of being a victim, it's simply recognizing that nothing is truly ever 100% out of our control. |
I think what the point is -is that rape is not only under-reported it is also overreported. What that means is that women who are raped -often do not report it to the authorities. Ironically women who are not raped -often falsely report being raped for a number of reasons.
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This doesn't surprise me at all. Everyone wants to blame anyone or anything but themselves for their actions. The one time I blacked out I was told that I drank about half a bottle of Absinth during the part I don't remember. I could easily have said that I've had more than that to drink and still remembered it (which is the truth) and the vodka or beer I had was spiked in order to avoid admitting that I drank more than half of the people there combined, but I shrugged and decided not to do it again.
I'm a big advocate of personal responsibility, and bullshit like crying "my drink was spiked" after I saw you pour enough to get me (6'8"/315lbs) drunk into your 115 pound self is not going to get you any sympathy. I drink with my friends enough to know if one of them is acting differently than normal; I've known enough druggies to recognize what most drugs will do to a sober or drunk person and can respond accordingly. Quote:
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My message was more of a warning.
Many frat guys think getting a girl drunk is 'fine.' However, I'm sure date-rape cases have ruined many lives. |
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