Min

The rantings of a young male of my acquaintance upon the superiority of women. He and I both are curious of others' opinions.

Why Women Are Better Than Men: A Thesis


Women want one man to satisfy their every need. Men want every woman to satisfy their one need. World operates on propogation, so therefore, the only man not controlled by woman is they gay man. Though they cannot breed on, they're in a way superior, since they do not have that drive that affects their whole mind.

People of homosexual orientation have existed since people who were heterosexual existed.
As a rule, the view of sex from our human standpoint is based on our chemicals. At a base, estrogen and testosterone control our body shape and sexual drive. The testes produce 99% of testosterone in males, and the ovaries produce 99% of estrogen in females. Remove the testes, the man loses his desire to have sex, to carry on his gene. Remove the ovaries, the woman loses her desire to be a carrier for a child, and thus not follow on her gene. The pheromones then, are our sexual calling card. People who are compatible with our pheromones will flock to us, hence a grouping of a persons "type". If you remove the gonads, you remove the outputting of pheromones, and thus also cut off your ability to be a receptor to them. While, yes, you still may recieve the pheromones, you won't be able to respond to them. The proof behind a persons testes/ovaries controlling their drive can be shown by chemical castration, and how it destroys a persons sex drive utterly.

In the case of homosexuals, however, it seems their body has the right set of hormones until puberty, but at that time, the levels change drastically. Take in the stereotype of most lesbians being butch bull-dykes. They are such because they have more testosterone. Gay males are more effeminate since they have more testosterone. Manly gays do not exist, it is simply a foil for their womanlyness. Effeminate lesbians do not exist either, since they can only foil as such to get other females to talk to them. In this case, while their gonads are still their, their pheromone reception is off on some level, at a genetic base. Genetics determine orienation, quod est demonstradtum.

However, women have one-upped men again. Two men cannot produce offspring. Two women can. The purspose of the embryo is firstly a supply of the womens genes, and secondary is to provide a nourishment source before the egg embeds in a placenta. It also serves as a source of food until the baby is mature enough to have fully connected to the placenta by an umbilical cord. Two sperm have the genetic material to provide a viable child, but not the food source, so it has no actual ability to survive the hurdle of attatchment to the placenta itself. Two women, however, not only have the genetic information to provide a child(though it may only be female), but it has the nourishment to get that baby through the first stages. Through science being able to extract nucleii froms cells and transfer them to others, they have come up with this method of two females being able to reproduce. This may even get to the point where one woman can take two of her own eggs, and make a child on her own. Women > Men.

In ye olde times, such as the 1500-1600's of England, it's noticeable that women who were sought out were buxom, rounded, and qith quite hefty set hips. Why? Because one, that's fuckin' hot, two, the genetic inclination to bring a child to term properly, meant they were superior carriers than some hideous, skinny waif. It has come to the point where society has tried to change a persons views so hard, that it has succeeded. Yes, some few males(me) still believe a woman with curves is superior than a stick-thin bitch, but people have been so ingrained with that view that they now find that genetic aspect of their own wish to propogate disgusting, and give in to the majorital view.

I believe I speak for all well-knowing males when I say, If I wanted to date a woman who had the body of a ten year old boy, i'd just date a ten year old boy. Women, not only are you better than men, you are also better when you're bigger. I both hate you and love for that fact, so hooray for ambivolence.

longbough

Please define the term, "better."

If you want to be selective about your criteria you can support any thesis you want. In fact, it's pointless rhetorical exercises like above that give rise to discrimination and racism. There's no point in arguing over who is better.

If you wish I'll just counter your "thesis" with my own pointless (and politically incorrect) exercise.

Men are better than women because:

- men can parallel park and program electronic equipment with greater consistency
- men are characteristically stronger and more athletic than women
- a single man with a group of women can repopulate a geographical region. However, a single woman with a group of men is less likely to proliferate successfully
- men have deeper, louder voices that can be heard over greater distances
- men aren't encumbered by monthly menses (or the associated emotional lability)
- men don't have breasts that get in the way of using a longbow
- men are characteristically taller than women
- men's fashion is generally less expensive than women's fashion
- men don't as easily lose sex appeal as they get older (yes this is cultural but it's still "better")
- men have won more Nobel Prizes than women
- men make up the vast majority of world leaders
- men overall earn more money than women doing the same job (I'd say that earning more is "better" wouldn't you agree?)
- men don't fuss over breaking a fingernail

(*note: please don't take what I wrote seriously - I was just making a point)

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sadeianlinguist

My boyfriend's very monogamous, and I chose him because he's better than any woman OR man. I'm bisexual and like both. Every queer person I know, to include myself (who prefers women and has a queer brother and a queer best friend), is an individual and is not more or less feminine/masculine than straight counterparts.

Also, someone who is smaller does not necessarily "have the body of a ten year old boy." I weigh 110 lbs. at 5' 5". have a 23.5" waist, but D cup (natural) breasts and wide 34" hips and a big butt.

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Infinite_Loser

Lucky ass boyfriend

Anywho, women aren't better than men. More conniving? Maybe. Meaner? Maybe. Better? No.

Whatever happened to equality between the sexes?

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Ustwo

Ummm I'd have to say, no to this theory.

There is only one way to show women are superior to men and that is because they can make one of these for me and it would be wrong to accept a sandwich from a man.

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sadeianlinguist

He's got a lucky girlfriend too!

I'm meaner, but I don't think it's got anything to do with my sex.

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JumpinJesus

If women are better than men, it's because the men allow it.

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Infinite_Loser

Maybe, maybe not. I'm sure we all have our own theories regarding the opposite sex.

Mine just happens to be that, on average, women are generally a bit more psychopathic than men are. Where do you think the saying "Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned" came from? Of course, I don't think either sex is better than the other.

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sadeianlinguist

I think women get away with more horrible behavior, but that's more of a cultural thing. Hence the popularity of a "mail order bride" with men who want a more demure, submissive wife.

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Infinite_Loser

Women get away with more simply because they're women. You have thousands of years of history to thank (Or blame) for that.

Though, I know plenty of males who'd love a domineering women.

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Randerolf

I'm sorry to see your post; next time I go out to eat, I’ll have a moment of silence for you.

mandy

i wouldn't say that women are better or rather all that better it's just that most women, alot of women, use common sense most of the time but that's because God made it that way ...Let me explain...

One day God had created man and woman and he had two parts that he didnt know where he should put or whom they should go to, the man or the woman.

So, he thought he has such a good relationship with both of them he'd rather ask them which they would prefer instead of just giving it to them.

So, God called together the man and woman and said: " i have 2 parts that i would like you two to choose from. The first one allows you to stand and pee." and before God could say what the other one was Adam jumped up and down and said: " oh, i would like that...it sounds like just something a man should have." and eve said: " if he wants it so badly, i think he should have it." and God gave Adam his part and Adam went all over just standing and peeing all over the place. He peed over rocks and tried even to reach over the trees and at one stage he even tried to pee across the lake.

God and Eve stood aside and felt really good that they had given Adam something that makes him so happy.

it was just then that Eve turned to God and asked: "but God, you said you had two parts? Adam got his part...what is the other part called?"

and God turned to her shrugging his shoulders and answered politely : "Brains"

So, it was always destined to be that way.

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warrrreagl

My time-tested theory has always been this: show me a female who can hook up a stereo and I'll admit superiority. Grancey basically pulled that off this month when she bought a Tivo, got it out of the box, hooked it up, ran the setup, and all with NO help from little old me.

The downside is that I'm not allowed to touch the Tivo remote now, since she claims I'll fuck it up. She is an absolute genius. And I will be the first to admit that our nightly recording process has been totally error-free since she took over.

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ShaniFaye

Does it count if I did all the programming on our DVR (and hooked it thru the stereo receiver for my surround sound)?

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warrrreagl

That definitely counts, although there must be some surprise out there that all that door-holding courteousy hasn't rendered you into a helpless, babbling mess. Didn't anybody tell you that you're being exploited and abused from all that kindness?

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ShaniFaye

I prefer to be like one of my romance book heroines...a fiesty girl who can hold her own so well its makes a man want to take care of me

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Sage

I'm a woman, and I'll be the first on the bandwagon to say that men are better than women. I don't like women, generally, because I find them to be weak, selfish, and petty humans who refuse to stop gossiping and passing blame long enough to actually make something of themselves.

That being said, I know women who make me proud to be a woman. I definitely have female role-models, but they're not skinny or rich or famous, they're strong and honest and admirable.

I also do not like "weak" men. I find myself drawn to people who are strong of character and personality, and in general that means I end up hanging out with more men than women.

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Lasereth

Nice read! I actually agree with most of it.

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Seaver

Perhapse the most sophomoric argument I've read since Junior High.

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amire

I go to an engineering school. Not only can some of my female classmates hook up a stereo, but some can also design rudimentary computer architectures, build bridges, and work on internal combustion engines.

Unfortunately for us guys, they are few in number and have a bit of a superiority complex because they're in such high demand.

samcol

I agree with your theory more, and who cares if it's politically incorrect, it's true.

Also, In ever single society and culture that I've heard of the men always rise to the top to be the leaders of the families, tribes, business, organizations, governments, sports, arts, music, basically everything.

Crack

I don't think that lesbians would like to be called "butch bull dykes" I don't think I would.

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Mrs Master

Classic

analog

Seaver is right. Sophomoric, indeed.

These are both extremely false. Extremely. Was this written by a person in high school, or perhaps someone who lives a sheltered (and therefore ignorant of the world) existence?

Fallacy of logic. Just because two women using a ton of extremely expensive medical equipment can engineer by process, a child, does not make it "two women can have a baby". This is also not to mention that it usually takes large cultures of multiple intercellular nucleus transplants to yield one "good" one, i.e., one transplant that will take and grow.

Also: without the sperm, you cannot make a male. Period. Until they can synthetically create chromosome 23 as a Y to replace the x the woman gives, they will always yield females. This is not an advantage.

And since they can't do it naturally, but require a massive intervention of medical technology, that can hardly count in the above rant. Two women can not make a baby. That's like saying I can make a car, because I have huge machinery that I can manipulate to manufacture one. Two women can see to the manufacture of a baby.

Actually, going further back than that, being fat/overweight/plump/whatever was a point of pride because it simply meant you were wealthy- you had more than enough food to eat. in the time period you reference, the reason that the fuller women were sought out is because they were believed to be healthier, since it appeared they ate well or even if they didn't, they still maintained what was considered a "healthy" weight. Skinny women were considered unhealthy because it was believed/accepted that they did not eat well, and were therefore would not be as nutritive an environment for a baby to grow in. Also, the skinny women usually had narrower hips- and they knew well enough back then that the wider the hips, the more successful the chance of live birth.

Except a female is a female and a male is a male, and being attracted to females is not solely based on body shape. If it were, I could find you plenty of big, fat men with breasts, whose size and shape rival your preferred female. Would that suffice? A big, curvy guy with boobs? Might want to rethink that comparison.

Also, being skinny or petite does not mean you have the body of a ten-year-old boy. They are often still quite curvy in their shape, and every bit as womanly as any other female.

So, in short, I disagree with almost everything.

Mrs Master

ever is spelt every and theres a comma after heard of.

Ustwo

From what I can gather in my readings, the 'fat' ideal as a sign of wealth has been seen in some cultures, but not any western ones. Ruben's is often cited as proof that larger women were the ideal at some point, but Ruben's like to paint extremes in human forms, from overly muscled to completely obese and should not be considered a yard stick for the likes/dislikes of his day. Looking at the art of the western world from the ancient Greeks on up, beautiful women were all 'thin', not Paris chainsmoking model thin, but no excess fat either.

Larger hips vrs narrow hips is also a valid observation, but apparently its manifested in the breast/waist/hip ratio in terms of what is considered appealing, the cliche 'hour glass' figure does have basis in reality. At no point has a woman with a big belly been considered the stereotypical idea in the west.

Edit: Well unless you count this period....

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Min

I thank each and every one for their comments, especially the critiques, that agree with mine. I concur, the observations are based on a limited world view. I told my acquaintance I'd post it to the Big Kids forum (as I refer to it) so he could hear others give the same remarks.

I appreciate all that actually took the time to read it and remark.

Zeraph

I hope you're not serious this should be in tilted nonsense.

Adressing your main points:
Wrong. Some women want many men; some men only want one woman.
Men can propagate; they can clone themselves.
Body shape is opinion; you can’t know how much society has influenced it because you have been influenced by society.

ubertuber

Was this written as a joke to provoke responses? If so, it's moderately funny. If not...then it's not.

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Min

If this should be moved, please, someone do so. I only intended to initiate responses to it not to provoke or insult.

Gilda

The hormone stuff is, to be generous, overly general and ill informed, but the section on homosexuality is full of stereotypes and misinformation.

No. The evidence is that for male homosexuals, variant androgen levels during gestation are primarily responsible for exclusive male homosexuality, most likely excess androgen during the development of certain sexually dimorphic brain structures. There is no evidence of male homosexuality being linked to pubescent hormone levels and most gay males identify in that way all their lives.

There's little evidence of a hormonal cause, either prenatal or pubescent or genetic general cause of female homosexuality. Environmental factors during developmental years tend to be a big influence, but we mostly don't know why lesbians are homosexual.

A highly inaccurate stereotype. Manner of presentation varies all over the board from femme to butch. The current trend is to move towards the androgynous middle, but there are plenty of us at the ends.

This is the closest you've gotten to getting something right. There is some evidence of a correlation between a bull-dyke presentation and higher than normal androgen levels, but it's more of a general trend than definitive and far from a one-to-one correlation.

Not all gay males are effeminate, though a significant minority are, and there's no evidence that I've seen of a link to excess testosterone and femme presentation. Femmes are often that way from early childhood, long before pubescent hormones take effect.

Uh, no. You're just wrong here.

Sorry, wrong again. I'm a femme lesbian. My wife is a mostly femme lesbian. Manner of presentation may be a style choice, political or social statement, or just what feels right. Many femme lesbians are that way because they just like being girly, just like straight women.

Really close on this one. Dang it, I thought you had it there until you got to the genetic part. We do know that gay male brains process pheremones in a similar manner to those of straight women, and lesbian brains process pheromones in a similar manner to those of straight men, but because experience does alter the brain, we don't know at this point if the variant brain activity is the cause or the result of being homosexual.

Sorry, no. In males there's likely a genetic component, but the strongest link is to prenatal hormones, and there is very little evidence of a genetic component in females, who seem to be more influenced by social environment factors.

I'm curious as to how old this person, because it makes a big difference in how I'd evaluate this essay. It's generally competently written in terms of sentence structure and mechanics, and has a good progression from one paragraph to the next with each having a clearly delineated purpose, and the thesis is well-defined, but the development of the thesis itself seems to be derived from a lot of faulty information and guesswork, and the internal logic doesn't hold up well.

Gilda

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Lady Sage

I have seen angry men.... its nothing to behold IMO.

An angry woman???? Hello! Hell hath no fury like it. We are far more imaginative when it comes to getting even. *Chuckles* Nothing like making a 6'5" man pee his pants because he is so scared of a lil 5'6" female.

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Ustwo

This is true, and when it comes to gay males its somewhat safe to say they are born gay. The first real testosterone burst you get is in the womb, that is what sets up the brain as male or female in pattern, after birth there is no real hormonal differences between boys and girls until puberty, even though the behaviors are often obviously different.

I don't think you can use behavior has an accurate predictor, but boys who have more feminine behaviors prior to puberty show a greater likelihood of being gay as adults. I wont' be mentioning this to my brother in law, whos young son is very verbal for a boy

Now the way I look at the genetics is that there seems to be two components. I don't think there is a 'gay' gene, such a gene would not last for obvious reasons, I do think there is a gay tendency gene, this plus the right environmental factors with the mother is what changes a fetuses reaction to testosterone. Mothers under stress have been shown to have a greater number of male homosexual children than average and I think its that + the susceptibility which leads to homosexuality in males.

Most of the research seems to focus around male homosexuality, so I can't really comment on the female aspect as I've read very little.

You have to be, a man would just tear you appart if he was that mad, literally. It is also in our nature to murder. Hell might hath no fury, but give me the 5'6" chick over the 6'5" guy wanting to kill me any day.

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Lady Sage

He did try to kill me Ustwo. He tried to choke me to death. Lady Sage is insufferably cute and very protective of her body, however, and is more than capable of defending herself in a life and death situation.

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longbough

Men vs. Women?

... who cares? We (men) own everything ...



anyway, I'll eat my words on the day we have a female UFC champion.

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MSD

Little more than invented "scientific" "facts," incorrect sweeping generalizations, and popular stereotypes, manipulated to "prove" a subjective thesis. I'd guess that the author is no more than 16 or 17 years old, and hope that he learns a bit more about how the world actually works as he grows up.

Charlatan

What an entirely pointless discussion.

Why waste time determining which sex is better than the other? There are differences. It is in those differences that we find compatibility.

The reason I love women is that they are different.

I don't care to quantify that difference with values of better or worse.

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Gilda

I've heard this one before, but with a different punchline:

It was then that Eve turned to God and asked, "God, you said you had two parts. Adam got his part. What ability does the other one give?"

And God said, "Multiple orgasms."

Actually, men are far more likely to be psychopathic than women.

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hagatha

I don't believe either sex to be better or worse. They are just different. And sometimes those differences are cool and appreciated, and sometimes they are not. I happen to like and appreciate male energy in my life and think its necessary to maintain a balance.
Hence, I don't like making blanket statements about either sex --assinine behaviour tends to cross gender lines.

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1010011010

Wow, what a load of stereotypical bullshit. Are you under this strange impression that gay men are less sex obsessed that straight men? Or that women are less sex obsessed than straight men, for that matter? They (females) might go about getting it in a different way and have to deal with the social impact of too much of a good thing, but this idea that women want "one man to satisfy their every need" would be so very humorously 1950s if I didn't think you were serious.They are such because the girls who don't "look gay" are assumed to be heterosexual.... by both gay and straight people.Or because the "manly" gay males are, again, assumed to be heterosexual.Have you ever had a friend who was gay? Even known a gay person on more than a "office acquaintance" type level even if you wouldn't call them a friend? Have you even met a gay person? You seem to be confusing phenotype and genotype, BTW, making the unsupported assertion that A=B and backing it up with unsupported assertion B=A doesn't get you to QED.The egg does not embed in the placenta. An ball of about a hundred cells embeds in the wall of the uterus. It then forms a hollow ball shape called a blastocyst. The ball then creases to form a hollow within the ball. The hollow within the ball will eventually form the fetus. The outer section of the ball develops into the placenta. The connection between them becomes the umbilical cord.You seem to think that human ova carry a "yolk" upon which the embryo feeds. You are incorrect in this belief. It is true, though, that ova come with a supply of mitochondria while sperm cells do not.Because being fat in that particular way meant you could afford an excess of food and idleness. Thus indicating that you were rich. Kind of like the current favoring of people that can afford personal trainers and gym memberships and actually have enough time and energy to work out and lay in the sun getting a tan afterwards. Kind of like how previously it was favored if you had pale skin indicating that you didn't work out in the fields under the sun.... because, again, you had enough money to not have to do it.

Die in a fire.

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