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ASU2003 10-23-2006 09:22 PM

If you are 52 years old and got sentenced to jail for 23-24 years...
 
Would you go to jail or would you try and live life as someone else until you die? *Yes, what he did was wrong and he deserves to be punished. But this goes for any crime that you get charged with late in life. I think they should lock you up in jail once you have been convicted, not under house arrest with GPS monitoring that would take authorities a few minutes to respond to...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061024/...kxBHNlYwN0bQ--


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U.S. District Judge Sim Lake denied Skilling's request for bond and ordered him to home confinement, wearing an ankle monitor
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Skilling's second wife, former Enron corporate secretary Rebecca Carter, was in the courtroom.
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During his trial, Skilling listed his remaining assets as including a $5 million mansion in Houston, a $350,000 condo in Dallas, a Mercedes Benz, two Land Rovers and nearly $50 million in stocks and bonds frozen by the government.

Skilling, spent 11 years at Enron. He has three children — aged 22, 20 and 16 — from his first marriage. He and Carter have no children.

He took over as chief executive from Lay in February 2001 but abruptly quit six months later, citing a desire to spend more time with his family. Prosecutors said he left Enron because he knew the company was on the brink of bankruptcy.



I would only assume that after he spends the last few days in his comfy home confident, that the next quarter of his life will be behind bars. He will probably die 10-15 years earlier by spending his life rotting in jail. He will lose his wife, and the kids probably won't stop by too often if he is in North Carolina. By the time he gets out, the youngest one will be 39. He will be 75, poor, and with nobody left that talks to him.

Or would you have your wife rent a car (so when you escape from your house the cops don't know what car to look for), rent a small plane (or drive) for a trip to Mexico, and disappear to someplace remote. You probably have friends with yachts to help you travel from one place to the next. Changing your identity and living the poor life might suck (unless you have a hidden boat and loads of cash that no one knows about). Hell, I don’t know, but I would be cutting off the ankle bracelet and making a dash for freedom in the wild and live out my life as a fugitive. Hell, he could dye his hair white, wear shorts and a Hawaiian shirt, grow a beard, change his identity, and live the rest of his life on some hidden island or something. It would be a different life, but it would beat a long prison sentence.

And if you think you really need a passport (and the judge seized his, and if the wife goes along they will be able to track it if it's scanned someplace), you can get one that looks good enough to get you by 95% of the time here in travels through third world countries and stuff:
http://www.conchrepublic.com/passport_app1.htm

There should be a rule that if you are a criminal, you should hide 10% of your money in a safe place.

I would need to think of this plan a little more if I was a criminal that's for sure. But even if it fails, you have nothing to lose but a few more years as an old man in jail. Suicide becomes an option if you get stuck with a jail sentence that it is impossible to live long enough to ever get out (alive).

So, would you go to jail or would you live your life on the run until you die?

ngdawg 10-23-2006 09:51 PM

Since my innate sense of guilt would not permit me to commit such a crime, being convicted would be in error, thus running would be compounding that error. So I'd serve and appeal vigorously.
Going back to the article, regarding his assets-every one of them should be seized and the only thing left would be enough clothes on the wife's back so she's not naked when she fills out the application at Walmart. Anyone who doesn't think for a second he put even more in various family's names offshore is fooling themselves. Take the assets, let the government take a third to settle up and stick the rest in a fund for those he and his late cohort ripped off.

Jinn 10-23-2006 10:09 PM

I'd run like hell. However, on the odd chance that they'd connect identities, I'd never post my plan here. :)

Ustwo 10-24-2006 06:56 AM

Make a run for the border.

kutulu 10-24-2006 07:53 AM

Hell yeah I'd take off. What do you have to lose?

Toaster126 10-24-2006 08:14 AM

Ditto. I think I could avoid doing the dumb shit that gets people caught.

feelgood 10-24-2006 09:07 AM

I don't pity him. The man should've thought about the consequence of his action and how his action would affect others.

jth 10-25-2006 08:54 AM

I'd make a run for it. Like it was said, what does he have to lose, he's going to spend a good chunk of his life in prison, might as well make a stab at it.

I wouldn't consider 52 to be old either, I think that's a good age in life, my parents are around this age and are still doing new things and getting ready for retirement (my dad will be 55 in a few weeks and retiring in the new year). Sure, thrown in prison for 20 years and you're 75 when you get out with not much left to look foward to. The chance that you'll survive prison is pretty good, they feed you, care for you and have excersise equipment, i'd be surprised if he died in jail at all.

If he made a run for it he would be leaving the majority of his family behind anyway and would not get a chance to see them for a long time if ever again. The FBI would be tracking their movements in an attempt to track him down and so contact with them would be risky. However, I think that having some sort of freedom in Mexico, or further south is worth it.

But then again, living in paranoid states of mind wondering if Uncle Sam is around the corner waiting for you... hmmmm

thingstodo 10-25-2006 01:14 PM

While I have no sympathy for him I would sure be on the run.

StormBerlin 10-25-2006 01:29 PM

I would run for the rest of my life. But not to Mexico. They extradite from Mexico. Chile, on the other hand, does not extradite (to the US anyway). That's where I would hide.

_God_ 10-28-2006 11:05 AM

Everybody talks about hiding in Mexico, but they darn sure catch a lot of our criminals who hide there.

Kali 10-28-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Make a run for the border.

which border?

Yakk 10-29-2006 07:19 AM

He has a decent chance of getting off on Appeal.

Once he is in jail (2 to 5 years from now), he'll have time served. And then parole.

hagatha 11-05-2006 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormBerlin
I would run for the rest of my life. But not to Mexico. They extradite from Mexico. Chile, on the other hand, does not extradite (to the US anyway). That's where I would hide.

Thanks for the heads up on Chile its good to know.


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