Scientologist Isaac "chef" Hayes quits ‘South Park - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

AquaFox · 03-13-2006, 03:28 PM

the argument of southpark and mocking religion and culture isn't new... but it's starting to bite them in the ass! chef quit! according to a poll on this website, 90% sided with the makers of the show, and 10% sided with chef

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11812699/

Updated: 4:49 p.m. ET March 13, 2006
NEW YORK - Isaac Hayes has quit “South Park,” where he voices Chef, saying he can no longer stomach its take on religion.

Hayes, who has played the ladies’ man/school cook in the animated Comedy Central satire since 1997, said in a statement Monday that he feels a line has been crossed.

“There is a place in this world for satire, but there is a time when satire ends and intolerance and bigotry towards religious beliefs of others begins,” the 63-year-old soul singer and outspoken Scientologist said.

“South Park” co-creator Matt Stone responded sharply in an interview with The Associated Press Monday, saying, “This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he’s cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians.”

Last November, “South Park” targeted the Church of Scientology and its celebrity followers, including actors Tom Cruise and John Travolta, in a top-rated episode called “Trapped in the Closet.” In the episode, Stan, one of the show’s four mischievous fourth graders, is hailed as a reluctant savior by Scientology leaders, while a cartoon Cruise locks himself in a closet and won’t come out.

Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker “never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin.”

Willravel · 03-13-2006, 03:47 PM

Sounds like Chef can dish it but he can't take it. It's BS. If he is persoanlly offende, he mi9ght consider the actual weight of the show versus the weight of Tom Cruise's recent actions. If I were a scientologist, I would care more about a run away star with the attention of America than a cartoon that's know to push all boundries.

ratbastid · 03-13-2006, 04:10 PM

I sort of regret the tone that Matt Stone takes at the end of the article. I mean... he's right. It's just a shame to have to end a years-long professional relationship like that. There was a high road to be taken... and he drove right on by it.

cyrnel · 03-13-2006, 04:29 PM

Too bad. I expect even if he was okay with things, other scientoologists (sp?) weren't. No doubt he risked losing free towel service at the club.

Ustwo · 03-13-2006, 05:20 PM

I love the Chef Character on South Park, and I hope they find a good replacement voice rather than get rid of the character.

I could care less about some scientologist who can't handle a good dose of the truth.

Willravel · 03-13-2006, 05:23 PM

I also don't think the episode of SP about Scientology was bigoted towards anything but Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. I agree with USTWO, Isaac Hayes can't handle truth.

trickyy · 03-13-2006, 05:26 PM

there was an episode about catholics this year that was pretty offensive too
i'd even say it was more offensive than the scientology episode, but i guess that's up for debate.

i hardly watch the show, but have fond memories of the time mormonism was explained. the background music was someone singing "dum du-dum duh dum dum..."

Ustwo · 03-13-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

I also don't think the episode of SP about Scientology was bigoted towards anything but Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. I agree with USTWO, Isaac Hayes can't handle truth.

Whats funny is I learned nothing new about scientology in that episode, but I did learn something new about Travolta. I got some inside holywood information that he is indeed in the closet, specificly with his co-pilot. Explained that part of the joke to me after the fact (Cruise and R. Kelly didn't need explanation).

Carno · 03-13-2006, 07:05 PM

Haha. Good riddance to him. If he can't take a joke, fuck him.

You got some "inside hollywood information" from a satire cartoon show? Please tell me you aren't serious about that sentence.

Halx · 03-13-2006, 07:48 PM

ratbastid, I have to disagree with you. I am absolutely grateful for the remarks and calling Isaac on his bullshit. The only high road that exists today is to not even get involved in anything. When the only thing you're used to hearing is "We respect his decisions and wish him luck in his future endeavors" those words from Matt Stone make me wanna marry his left nut.

Ustwo · 03-13-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Carno

Haha. Good riddance to him. If he can't take a joke, fuck him.

You got some "inside hollywood information" from a satire cartoon show? Please tell me you aren't serious about that sentence.

No the information had nothing to do with the show. Friend of my best friend happens to be a very wealthy hollywood type. After speaking with him at a party after I saw the south park scientology episode, Travoltas co-pilot came up (unrelated to the show). That story made the whole 'Travolta in the closet' bit make sense.

CSflim · 03-14-2006, 10:43 AM

Hahahahah. This story is the funniest thing I've heard all week. Fuck Isaac Hayes. What a disgusting hypocrite.

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Stone told The AP he and co-creator Trey Parker “never heard a peep out of Isaac in any way until we did Scientology. He wants a different standard for religions other than his own, and to me, that is where intolerance and bigotry begin.”

Poppinjay · 03-14-2006, 10:57 AM

Damn. No more sweet love down by the fire.

I have to say this, Hayes was introduced singing a love song about inter-species fucking, and now he has a problem with the tone of the show.

It was probably a strong arm from the church.

CSflim · 03-14-2006, 11:21 AM

Here's a link to the episode in question.

http://www.scientomogy.info/south-park.htm

I can't quite tell if it is legal or not. It is linked to from wikipedia.org and the following is a quote from southparkstudios.com:

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Q. - I was surprised that in the last FAQ you recommended downloading episodes on KaZaa and other file sharers. What are Matt and Trey's official stances on South Park episode piracy?

A. - Matt and Trey do not mind when fans download their episodes off the Internet; they feel that it’s good when people watch the show no matter how they do it.

I'll leave it up to the mods to decide to remove this link or not.

analog · 03-14-2006, 11:24 AM

Well... whether it was direct influence or his own decision, it was still the church that made him do it, in the end.

And yeah, they've been making fun of everyone for years and years- and then they poke a little fun at scientologists and suddenly they've crossed a line? Hahahaha yeah ok, whatever.

I'm glad they reacted the way they did, and i wouldn't expect less from Matt and Trey. That's a bullshit move on Hayes' part. You can't claim moral superiority suddenly after participating in it gleefully for years.

Bill O'Rights · 03-14-2006, 11:41 AM

Hold up, people. A little perspective please? Y'all are missin' the bigger issue here...

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Originally Posted by willravel

I agree with USTWO

Whoa......I'm booking me a ski trip in Hell.

SaltPork · 03-14-2006, 11:54 AM

so, this brings up the question, how do you think they'll off Chef? You know it's going to be brutal and politically and morally wrong, and in being so, it will be so right. Thoughts?

Ace_O_Spades · 03-14-2006, 12:02 PM

maybe another scientology episode is in order

let chef be brainwashed and get taken up in the mothership to meet Xenu or some such bullshit.

Willravel · 03-14-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights

Hold up, people. A little perspective please? Y'all are missin' the bigger issue here...
Whoa......I'm booking me a ski trip in Hell.

It's been known to happen. I may not agree with Ustwo over in Politics, but shoot we're both ingelligent people...we're bound to agree on something.

"Show me a man you can't agree with on anything, and I'll show you a man you don't respect." - Willravel

Coppertop · 03-14-2006, 12:51 PM

Yes, it definitely seems Hayes simply didn't like it when it was his own clique under the microscope. If Stone and Parker crossed the line (whatever the hell that means), it would have been long before the episode in question.

This says everything right here:

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Originally Posted by Matt Stone

“This is 100 percent having to do with his faith of Scientology... He has no problem — and he’s cashed plenty of checks — with our show making fun of Christians.”

Chamaeleontidae · 03-14-2006, 01:56 PM

Fuck him...

I think Snoop Dogg would be a great replacement for a new chef voice...

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Originally Posted by SaltPork

so, this brings up the question, how do you think they'll off Chef? You know it's going to be brutal and politically and morally wrong, and in being so, it will be so right. Thoughts?

oh... Sooo many thoughts, so little time...

Have a new Scientology episode, and randomly throughout the whole show cut to the chef working the glory hole in the confessional...

or

Keep the chef character in the show as a ball-gagged S&M slave for Hitler and the Devil...

ziadel · 03-14-2006, 02:48 PM

I really did'nt know he was a scientologist.

but now that I do, he won't be missed.

Toaster126 · 03-14-2006, 02:53 PM

Add him to the huge list of people who can dish it out but can't take it.

silentmonkey · 03-14-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltPork

so, this brings up the question, how do you think they'll off Chef? You know it's going to be brutal and politically and morally wrong, and in being so, it will be so right. Thoughts?

i wouldn't be suprised if they simply find another voice, if they kill him they have to use another voice for that episode anyway so they might as well keep him

flstf · 03-14-2006, 08:32 PM

Chef will probably wind up in the closet with Cruise before this is all over with.

amire · 03-15-2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel

I also don't think the episode of SP about Scientology was bigoted towards anything but Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. I agree with USTWO, Isaac Hayes can't handle truth.

Did you actually watch the show? It was VERY explicit about stating that Scientology is a global scam. I don't think that's a tenet of the Scientologist faith. Even if this was just a joke, the show was definitely MORE critical of Scientology than Cruise, Travolta, or Kelley.

Actually, after watching the episode, I can see why Isaac Hayes was offended. I can't say that he's unbiased. It's obvious that he left because it was attacking something he believed. But it is VERY obvious why he was offended: the show presented Scientology as completely untrue. I don't know if it's done that with any of the other religions. They've made fun of other religions, but I dunno whether they've explicitly called them untrue.

hulk · 03-15-2006, 06:55 AM

Perhaps because other religions aren't based upon science fiction novels? Read up on the history of the 'religion' and you'll find why it's so easy to redicule.

JustJess · 03-15-2006, 07:37 AM

*grumble*
/tries not to mock others' religions...

/laughs because people actually worship CLAMS....

Ustwo · 03-15-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by amire

Did you actually watch the show? It was VERY explicit about stating that Scientology is a global scam. I don't think that's a tenet of the Scientologist faith. Even if this was just a joke, the show was definitely MORE critical of Scientology than Cruise, Travolta, or Kelley.

Actually, after watching the episode, I can see why Isaac Hayes was offended. I can't say that he's unbiased. It's obvious that he left because it was attacking something he believed. But it is VERY obvious why he was offended: the show presented Scientology as completely untrue. I don't know if it's done that with any of the other religions. They've made fun of other religions, but I dunno whether they've explicitly called them untrue.

First off Scientology is a global scam and you would need to be an idiot to fall for it.

Secondly if you saw the Mormon episode, they basically called Joseph Smith a liar and a fraud.

"dum dum dum dum dum"

They had the collage of Cardinals all child molesters, the local priest fucking a woman in the confessional, and the virgin Mary shooting blood out her ass on the popes face (in all seperate episodes).

I think Scientology can suck it on this one and Mr. Hayes can hook himself to an E-meter.

dksuddeth · 03-15-2006, 08:46 AM

Isaac Hayes lost ALL respect from me on this one. total hypocrisy. But, as always, I'm sure that he could give a rats ass whether I respect him or not.

pig · 03-15-2006, 09:12 AM

the thing i thought when i read this thread was that i'm surprised shaft wasn't upset about the episode with david blaine and the blainetology stuff. i thought that was a pretty action packed jab at the kool aid comet riders, scientology, david blaine, and jesus christ, all rolled into one.

i really can't see how you can rationally get too upset at the south park guys for making fun of scientology, after all the stuff they've done with that show. i think shaft is probably just tired of the show in general, and this just punched the clock for him.

"a prostitute is like any other woman, but you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave...take it James Taylor..."

Carno · 03-15-2006, 09:39 AM

This thread reminds me of how much I love South Park.

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Marvelous Marv · 03-15-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ustwo

No the information had nothing to do with the show. Friend of my best friend happens to be a very wealthy hollywood type. After speaking with him at a party after I saw the south park scientology episode, Travoltas co-pilot came up (unrelated to the show). That story made the whole 'Travolta in the closet' bit make sense.

Yeah, my lawyer has an attorney friend in Hollywood who had things to say about Cruise.

But I think that's another of Hollywood's worst-kept secrets, even though Cruise sues anyone who says it too publicly.

Willravel · 03-15-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by amire

Did you actually watch the show? It was VERY explicit about stating that Scientology is a global scam. I don't think that's a tenet of the Scientologist faith. Even if this was just a joke, the show was definitely MORE critical of Scientology than Cruise, Travolta, or Kelley.

Scientology IS a global scam. The creator, L. Ron Hubbard, said so himself. Jesus Christ never called Christianity a scam. Muhammed never called Islam a scam. Looking at the whole picture, Scientology is obviously a scam.

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Originally Posted by amire

Actually, after watching the episode, I can see why Isaac Hayes was offended. I can't say that he's unbiased. It's obvious that he left because it was attacking something he believed. But it is VERY obvious why he was offended: the show presented Scientology as completely untrue. I don't know if it's done that with any of the other religions. They've made fun of other religions, but I dunno whether they've explicitly called them untrue.

Scientology is untrue. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. On some level, one could suggest that all organized religion is a global scam, but Scientology is so blatent in it's scamming people that it's impossible to ignore. My theton level is 0.

Ustwo · 03-15-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvelous Marv

Yeah, my lawyer has an attorney friend in Hollywood who had things to say about Cruise.

But I think that's another of Hollywood's worst-kept secrets, even though Cruise sues anyone who says it too publicly.

Yea that one came up too

I guess when you are a tiny guy who is marketed as a sex object, you need to keep appearnaces up.

cyrnel · 03-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Reminds me of that special fark.com post:

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I can't believe that people actually read and or believe this bull shit that is posted on fark.com. This is the first time I have been to fark.com and definatly the last. Considering I am witness to a lot of shit that goes on in hollywood, its hard to post some complete bull shit rumor say about tom cruise and katie holmes breaking up when they are sitting in front of you acting completely normal and sane. You guys must have small penis's since you have to make up shit for people to notice you. Hate to be with you in bed. Dumb shits! You may think I am, at least Im getting rich off being honest and not lieing to everyone in the fucking world.

Yakk · 03-16-2006, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by amire

Did you actually watch the show? It was VERY explicit about stating that Scientology is a global scam. I don't think that's a tenet of the Scientologist faith. Even if this was just a joke, the show was definitely MORE critical of Scientology than Cruise, Travolta, or Kelley.

Actually, after watching the episode, I can see why Isaac Hayes was offended. I can't say that he's unbiased. It's obvious that he left because it was attacking something he believed. But it is VERY obvious why he was offended: the show presented Scientology as completely untrue. I don't know if it's done that with any of the other religions. They've made fun of other religions, but I dunno whether they've explicitly called them untrue.

Mormons?

http://www.i4m.com/think/southpark/
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon134.html

To paraphrase:
"I can't show you these tablets, I have to hide them in my hat. Sure, they are in my hat. Really."

"I lost some pages, can you re-read them for me?"

"No. For some flimsy excuse, I can't re-read the tablets. And it isn't because I was making that shit up as we went along."

CSflim · 03-16-2006, 06:53 AM

Well then again, Mormonism was also shown to be the only correct religion. Everyone else went to hell.

Poppinjay · 03-16-2006, 06:59 AM

If John Travolta or Tom Cruise quit Scientology today, the church would publish stories about them being gay tomorrow. I wonder what shit they have on Isaac Hayes?

Ustwo · 03-16-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CSflim

Well then again, Mormonism was also shown to be the only correct religion. Everyone else went to hell.

Yea but recall what heaven was like

03-13-2006, 04:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Too bad. I expect even if he was okay with things, other scientoologists (sp?) weren't. No doubt he risked losing free towel service at the club. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

03-13-2006, 05:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	I love the Chef Character on South Park, and I hope they find a good replacement voice rather than get rid of the character. I could care less about some scientologist who can't handle a good dose of the truth. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

03-13-2006, 07:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	Haha. Good riddance to him. If he can't take a joke, fuck him. You got some "inside hollywood information" from a satire cartoon show? Please tell me you aren't serious about that sentence. __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

03-13-2006, 07:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	ratbastid, I have to disagree with you. I am absolutely grateful for the remarks and calling Isaac on his bullshit. The only high road that exists today is to not even get involved in anything. When the only thing you're used to hearing is "We respect his decisions and wish him luck in his future endeavors" those words from Matt Stone make me wanna marry his left nut. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

03-14-2006, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	Damn. No more sweet love down by the fire. I have to say this, Hayes was introduced singing a love song about inter-species fucking, and now he has a problem with the tone of the show. It was probably a strong arm from the church. __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet

03-13-2006, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Sounds like Chef can dish it but he can't take it. It's BS. If he is persoanlly offende, he mi9ght consider the actual weight of the show versus the weight of Tom Cruise's recent actions. If I were a scientologist, I would care more about a run away star with the attention of America than a cartoon that's know to push all boundries.

03-13-2006, 04:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	I sort of regret the tone that Matt Stone takes at the end of the article. I mean... he's right. It's just a shame to have to end a years-long professional relationship like that. There was a high road to be taken... and he drove right on by it.

03-13-2006, 05:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I also don't think the episode of SP about Scientology was bigoted towards anything but Tom Cruise and John Travolta. I fact checked the episode of SP, and nothing about Scientology seems off base at all. I agree with USTWO, Isaac Hayes can't handle truth.

03-13-2006, 05:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
trickyy ►	there was an episode about catholics this year that was pretty offensive too i'd even say it was more offensive than the scientology episode, but i guess that's up for debate. i hardly watch the show, but have fond memories of the time mormonism was explained. the background music was someone singing "dum du-dum duh dum dum..."

03-14-2006, 11:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
analog Banned	Well... whether it was direct influence or his own decision, it was still the church that made him do it, in the end. And yeah, they've been making fun of everyone for years and years- and then they poke a little fun at scientologists and suddenly they've crossed a line? Hahahaha yeah ok, whatever. I'm glad they reacted the way they did, and i wouldn't expect less from Matt and Trey. That's a bullshit move on Hayes' part. You can't claim moral superiority suddenly after participating in it gleefully for years.

03-14-2006, 11:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
SaltPork Everything's better with bacon Location: In your local grocer's freezer.	so, this brings up the question, how do you think they'll off Chef? You know it's going to be brutal and politically and morally wrong, and in being so, it will be so right. Thoughts? __________________ It was like that when I got here....I swear.

03-14-2006, 12:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	maybe another scientology episode is in order let chef be brainwashed and get taken up in the mothership to meet Xenu or some such bullshit. __________________ Feh.

03-14-2006, 02:48 PM	#22 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	I really did'nt know he was a scientologist. but now that I do, he won't be missed. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

03-14-2006, 02:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
Toaster126 Extreme moderation Location: Kansas City, yo.	Add him to the huge list of people who can dish it out but can't take it. __________________ "The question isn't who is going to let me, it's who is going to stop me." (Ayn Rand) "The truth is that our finest moments are most likely to occur when we are feeling deeply uncomfortable, unhappy, or unfulfilled. For it is only in such moments, propelled by our discomfort, that we are likely to step out of our ruts and start searching for different ways or truer answers." (M. Scott Peck)

03-14-2006, 08:32 PM	#25 (permalink)
flstf Easy Rider Location: Moscow on the Ohio	Chef will probably wind up in the closet with Cruise before this is all over with.

03-15-2006, 06:55 AM	#27 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Perhaps because other religions aren't based upon science fiction novels? Read up on the history of the 'religion' and you'll find why it's so easy to redicule. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

03-15-2006, 07:37 AM	#28 (permalink)
JustJess Unencapsulated Location: Kittyville	grumble /tries not to mock others' religions... /laughs because people actually worship CLAMS.... __________________ My heart knows me better than I know myself, so I'm gonna let it do all the talkin'.

03-15-2006, 08:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
dksuddeth Junkie Location: bedford, tx	Isaac Hayes lost ALL respect from me on this one. total hypocrisy. But, as always, I'm sure that he could give a rats ass whether I respect him or not. __________________ "no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

03-15-2006, 09:12 AM	#31 (permalink)
pig pigglet pigglet Location: Locash	the thing i thought when i read this thread was that i'm surprised shaft wasn't upset about the episode with david blaine and the blainetology stuff. i thought that was a pretty action packed jab at the kool aid comet riders, scientology, david blaine, and jesus christ, all rolled into one. i really can't see how you can rationally get too upset at the south park guys for making fun of scientology, after all the stuff they've done with that show. i think shaft is probably just tired of the show in general, and this just punched the clock for him. "a prostitute is like any other woman, but you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave...take it James Taylor..." __________________ You don't love me, you just love my piggy style

03-15-2006, 09:39 AM	#32 (permalink)
Carno Junkie	This thread reminds me of how much I love South Park. end transmission __________________ http://how-to-spell-ridiculous.com/

03-16-2006, 06:53 AM	#38 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	Well then again, Mormonism was also shown to be the only correct religion. Everyone else went to hell. __________________

03-16-2006, 06:59 AM	#39 (permalink)
Poppinjay You had me at hello Location: DC/Coastal VA	If John Travolta or Tom Cruise quit Scientology today, the church would publish stories about them being gay tomorrow. I wonder what shit they have on Isaac Hayes? __________________ I think the Apocalypse is happening all around us. We go on eating desserts and watching TV. I know I do. I wish we were more capable of sustained passion and sustained resistance. We should be screaming and what we do is gossip. -Lydia Millet