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Old 02-13-2008, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hamas Bunny, Assud, Vows to Liberate Al-Aqsa and "Eat" Jews

Hamas Bunny, Assud, Replaces His "Martyred" Brother Nahoul the Bee and Vows to Liberate Al-Aqsa and "Eat" Jews.

from Al-Aqsa TV Hamas-Palestinian Authority (February 9, 2008)

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Old 02-13-2008, 06:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Children's entertainment...terrorist indoctrination.... Hamas says tomato, we say tom-ah-to....

Well, what's new?
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Old 02-14-2008, 08:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What's new? This bubble busted.

Funny thing, we humans.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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My 3 year old son walked in while I was watching this.

'Its a bunny, hes so cute!'

Fucking sick bastards, but remember this is all Israels fault, just ask our friends on the left, and this can be fixed with simple negotiations.

I'd even be willing to bet that TV station was in part funded by EU money.
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I like how he's wearing the big key around his neck like a fluffy terrorist version of Flava Flav.

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Old 02-15-2008, 11:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I like how he's wearing the big key around his neck like a fluffy terrorist version of Flava Flav.
If its the same thing the Iranians did to their kids in the Iran/Iraq war thats the key they wear that gets them into heaven when they die fighting.



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Old 02-15-2008, 12:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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My 3 year old son walked in while I was watching this.

'Its a bunny, hes so cute!'

Fucking sick bastards, but remember this is all Israels fault, just ask our friends on the left, and this can be fixed with simple negotiations.

I'd even be willing to bet that TV station was in part funded by EU money.
The left apparently blames Israel, the right blames the left, both look like idiots who simply pass the buck to the next scapegoat. If you're willing to bet it's funded by EU money then find some proof, otherwise you're just being your usual self, trying to stir the pot with your half assed trollish comments.
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Old 02-15-2008, 03:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The left apparently blames Israel, the right blames the left, both look like idiots who simply pass the buck to the next scapegoat. If you're willing to bet it's funded by EU money then find some proof, otherwise you're just being your usual self, trying to stir the pot with your half assed trollish comments.
The EU gives quite a bit of money to 'humanitarian' causes in the area and what would be more humanitarian than a children's show, no I don't have a break down, nor do I give a crap what you think about my comments.

What I do know is the left blames the one democracy in the area and gives asswipes like this a pass or try to act like there is some sort of moral relativism between Israel and Hamas.

Fuck that, these people are evil. They are teaching children that their goal in life is to die killing filthy jews and using a guy in a bunny suit to do so.

Its so fucked up its unbelievable but lets keep pretending that we can somehow work out a solution with people willing to do this kind of thing. Maybe you can shake hands with them.
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Old 02-15-2008, 04:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What I do know is the left blames the one democracy in the area and gives asswipes like this a pass or try to act like there is some sort of moral relativism between Israel and Hamas.
The Palestinians hold democratic elections. I'm not sure why you'd say "the one democracy in the area". Lebanon and Egypt are democracies, too. They're Arab, though, so I can see why you wouldn't want to equate their democracies to Israel. Call it political relativism based on racial favoritism and possibly racism.
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Fuck that, these people are evil. They are teaching children that their goal in life is to die killing filthy jews and using a guy in a bunny suit to do so.

Its so fucked up its unbelievable but lets keep pretending that we can somehow work out a solution with people willing to do this kind of thing. Maybe you can shake hands with them.
Or maybe we can pretend that just because Ustwo doesn't understand these people they are clearly beyond hope and should be wiped off the map.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The Palestinians hold democratic elections. I'm not sure why you'd say "the one democracy in the area". Lebanon and Egypt are democracies, too. They're Arab, though, so I can see why you wouldn't want to equate their democracies to Israel. Call it political relativism based on racial favoritism and possibly racism.

Or maybe we can pretend that just because Ustwo doesn't understand these people they are clearly beyond hope and should be wiped off the map.
Imagine that Will if everything Ustwo doesn't understand was wiped out, we'd be fucked.
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...no I don't have a break down, nor do I give a crap what you think about my comments.
So then it's just you spewing bullshit with nothing to back it up as usual, maybe if you could back up your statements you'd be taken more seriously, awwwww Ustwo doesn't give a crap what I think of his comments, poor Ustwo, unfortunately we have to read your constant trolls so I guess you can put up with my comments.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I thought the left blamed the United States....
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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You'll have to forgive Ustwo, he has a hard time keeping track of who the left is blaming today, guess he didn't get his talking points from the neo-cons this week and got confused, I shudder to think what would happen if he had an original thought.

I'm just waiting for him to bring up Universal Health Care now that Canadians are in this thread, that's his usual argument, or that we're Socialists, that's another Ustwo gem.
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Old 02-16-2008, 08:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm just waiting for him to bring up [...] that we're Socialists, that's another Ustwo gem.
Yeah, maybe he doesn't know that we're merely a quarter socialist.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:03 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Not me, I'm 100% socialist.... of course I'm not a Democrat.

Speaking of the Hamas Bunny... I think it might be a joke. In the US, we have a comedian who does a routine with a "terrorist" suicide bomber puppet that an Arab or Persian may find completely offensive, but it's not indoctrinating us. It's making some of us laugh, and others change the channel. Of course Arab Ustwo is fucking pissed. He thinks we're fucking sick bastards. Then he blames a Sunni conspiracy in the US for the propaganda puppet on Comedy Central.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Not me, I'm 100% socialist.... of course I'm not a Democrat.
I was referring to the proportion of representatives in the House of Commons. The Bloc Quebecois and the NDP are essentially socialist, and they make up about 25% of the House.

This is a bit off track, I know, but is in response to "the left blames Israel," which I think is off the mark. I'm pretty sure the only finger pointing the NDP has done in regards to the Middle East is directed at Prime Minster Harper.

If you look at "leftist" theorists and critics, most of them will likely indicate the United States as one of the prime targets of "blame" for things going bad (or staying bad or getting worse) in the Middle East.

EDIT: I should talk about the bunny. Yes, this is a bad thing. Of course it is. There are far worse things people have done with children out of desperation. There are other things we could be focusing on. To believe that Hamas or other Palestinian groups do nothing to indoctrinate their children is to be naive. What good does it do for them, us, or Israel to watch this video and simply say how crazy and fucked up and evil these people are? Of course they're crazy; look at the lives they live.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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There was actually a similar show on Palestinian TV up until about a year and a half ago, which featured a guy in a rip-off Mickey Mouse suit spouting the same kind of indoctrinating, kill-the-Jews crap. When one of my best friends was in college, about five or six years ago, the foreign minister of the PA came to his college to lecture, and, when confronted about why they permitted this television show to air, calmly asked,

"Don't you have educational TV in this country? Your public television would never cancel 'Sesame Street.' This is the same thing."

I am a little surprised to hear myself saying it, but ustwo is really kinda right about this. Terrorists = Bad. Pretty much what it comes down to. And I have to say, I've been in Israel for half a year now, and I watch their television. I have never seen any kind of kids' show that advocates violence in any way, much less giving kids a designated target and encouragement to be suicide bombers. As far as I can see, although the Palestinian problem is widely discussed in everyday Israeli society, most people shun extremist answers. I wish I could say the same for the folks on the other side of the fence.
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:39 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I am a little surprised to hear myself saying it, but ustwo is really kinda right about this. Terrorists = Bad. Pretty much what it comes down to. And I have to say, I've been in Israel for half a year now, and I watch their television. I have never seen any kind of kids' show that advocates violence in any way, much less giving kids a designated target and encouragement to be suicide bombers. As far as I can see, although the Palestinian problem is widely discussed in everyday Israeli society, most people shun extremist answers. I wish I could say the same for the folks on the other side of the fence.
There is little reason for Israel to be as extremist as Palestinians. They don't need to indoctrinate children to be suicide bombers when they have a standing army and gunships, etc.
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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There is little reason for Israel to be as extremist as Palestinians. They don't need to indoctrinate children to be suicide bombers when they have a standing army and gunships, etc.
That's mixing apples and oranges. There is no analogy between a country having a military and terrorist groups recruiting people to be murderers.
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:58 AM   #20 (permalink)
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That's mixing apples and oranges. There is no analogy between a country having a military and terrorist groups recruiting people to be murderers.
What I was getting at was that desperation can bring the worst out of people.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If its the same thing the Iranians did to their kids in the Iran/Iraq war thats the key they wear that gets them into heaven when they die fighting.
Actually, that's not true here. For Palestinians, the key is a symbol of the right of return; when Israel took over most of the territory in 1948 and hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled / were expelled, they closed their homes for the last time and took the key with them. So the key is a symbol of someday being able to leave the camps and return to their homes, and by extension to the homeland. It's quite a potent and emotionally charged symbol, though it's quite sad that there will not be any return for them and their descendants.

Oh, and Hamas is fucked up.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What I was getting at was that desperation can bring the worst out of people.
Yeah, you're certainly right about that. No question.
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This is some Palestinian graffiti. It illustrates the desperation in a really amazing way.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This is some Palestinian graffiti. It illustrates the desperation in a really amazing way.
Actually, I believe that is the work of the British graffiti artist known as Banksy, who did a trip to the West Bank a few months ago to do political graffiti art there. Banksy is apparently a very left-leaning individual, and in addition to sundry seemingly quasi-anarchistic or quasi-socialistic views, such as fervent anti-nationalism and anti-capitalism, he also holds pro-Palestinian sympathies.

I may not agree with him in the matter of the Palestinians, but I can't deny he's awfully talented, and quite clever.
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:14 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I should have been more clear. By Palestinian I meant it was on the Palestinian side of the illegal wall, not that the artist was Palestinian. I apologize for being misleading.

My point, though, was to try and illustrate the dire situation many Palestinians find themselves in. I in no way condone the guerilla attacks on Israel or Israelis, of course, but I cannot say that I find their situation tolerable. They're in trouble and both Israel and Palestine find themselves trying to occupy the same land. Something reasonable has to be done as this shows no signs of changing.

What about a parliament that has Israeli and Palestinian representatives? What about allowing the Palestinians to completely rule their sovereign land... free of walls or bulldozers?
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