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Old 02-27-2004, 03:36 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Ustwo
This is so wrong on so many fundamental levels I don't know where to start.

So I'll start with the first part about the


If the cost of labor would be the same, then there would be no point in having other countries make the goods. As such these countries, who mostly have people making pennies PERIOD, would have less jobs and less income. They would suffer. Likewise the cost of the goods would go up, the consumer would suffer and have a lower standard of living.

And since its very late and I'm very tired and need to sleep, lets jump to the end.



Corporations are not job creating machines of the world. They exsist to make a profit and only will succeed if they make a profit. Who the hell wants to invest in a company that doesn't make a profit? Why build a new industry if it can't make a profit since its taxed away? Why bother when you can sit at home on the dole? Who the hell do you think makes the global economy work? Sure tax away the profit, and you might as well make them state owned since before long they won't function on their own. Mmmmmm state owned corporations, where have I smelt that stench before...
My turn at rebuttal here.

Exactly my point. If the cost of doing business is the same our industry will stay here.

How is paying the workers of those countries pennies on the dollar "helping them"? They still live in poverty. They still have nothing. Then of course there are the child sweatshops that don't even pay that much and the work camps that pay less than that. How is that "helping them." They can't even afford the product they are making. Hell they can't afford what you take for granted, decent housing and can barely afford food.

Sure thier politicians are well off because our companies bribe them. And by your statement alone you show that price is all you care about. You don't give a damn about those workers. And yet you expect, no demand, that they bow down and kiss your feet? And you wonder why they hate the US.

But this is liberal bias.

Excuese me, corporations are not in the business to make jobs? WHERE THE FUCK THEN ARE THE JOBS SUPPOSE TO COME FROM?

I see so fuck the people who make our goods, yet, who can't afford to buy our goods. Profit profit profit.

You missed my point on that but that's ok the point you made reaffirms my belief that the right only care about themselves and fuck everyone else.

My point was not to tax our own but to tax those that tax our products entering thier countries. Example: China and Japan tax our steel to prices that there is no way to compete. YET, those same countries ship thier inferior steel over here at cut throat prices, and we tax them pennies compared to what they tax us.

Now is that healthy for us? NO

Is thier steel industry losing money? YES, BUT Japan and China subsidize that industry.

WHY EVER WOULD THEY DO THAT? Because once they destroy what's left of our steel industry they can then name thier prices and we will have to pay it. AND of course USTWO you, yourself, have posted how China wants to weaken us. Yet you never did answer me when I asked why if a country wants to weaken you would you have a TRADE DEFICIT with that country.

That sounds like fair and balanced trading doesn't it? That sounds like we are putting our people first over corporate greed.
Hmmmm and we need steel for our planes and ships and tanks and so on for our military.

Now if we have no steel industry, (and trust me living in Northeast Ohio, I know what's left and how fast it is dying, I see the effects everyday), how do we get the steel for new military needs? I'm sure you have a feasible answer to that.

I just don't understand this thinking. When a country has no industry, that country becomes DEPENDANT on the whims and demands of those that do have the industry. That was one reason we were so powerful.

Aw well, USTWO, you continue to live in your world where all other countries should be thanking us for giving them our industry and defending the rich who will leave this country for another the second they have dried up our resources here.

I'll be here in the real world trying to figure out how my children and thier children are going to survive the depression and financial ruin our country is headed for.
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