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Originally posted by sixate
Absolutely. The Patriot Act will help to put criminals and terrorists behind bars. Some people think that their lives will be changed, and they don't like the idea that the police/government can do things that they previously couldn't do. So some people feel as though they lose their privacy or other rights. So how can someone who claims to not want to lose rights want to take peoples right to bear arms? We all have that right, don't we? Can you please explain to me how that isn't a contradiction..
I have no problems with people owning guns. I have no problems with the Patriot Act. I have not lost any rights. When people say they have I always ask, "What have you lost? How have you been violated?" I've never once had anyone even be able to answer me. I will admit. The Patriot Act can be used to fuck people, but it isn't happening. So why do people cry about it. What's so wrong with being able to lock up criminals anyway?
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"Naturally the common people do not want war: neither in Russia, nor England, nor, for that matter, in Germany. That is understood. But, after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Reich Marshall Hermann Wilhelm Goring at the Nuremberg Trails
Of course Goring was not especially anti-semetic, but he was happy enough to ignore endsolung and even pretend to support it to keep his position in the Nazi Party.
1, Guns are weapons of destruction, and the wider the ownership of them the more people are destroyed
2, The Patriot Act gives the state totaliterian powers over the people... just another step towards 1984. And it is not just the guilty who need to be afraid, but rather anyone the state decides to call guilty - regardless of any real wrongdoing.