View Single Post
Old 12-20-2003, 06:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
james t kirk
Junkie
 
james t kirk's Avatar
 
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by j8ear
What fraud? If wishes were fishes, huh? Can you elaborate?
Are you F'ing serious???

What fraud?

How bout altering the books to make a drowning company look like a viable investment.

How bout violating every accounting principle out there.

How bout pressuring your accounting firm - Arther Anderson to break the law and agree with your fraudulant books.

How bout giving speeches to your employees encouraging them to buy shares stating that "never has our business model been more sound"


Quote:
Originally posted by j8ear
I feel for those effected by what happened, but blame largely poor judgement. I remember being offered a chance to invest in Enron in 1997. Turned it down because that company 'felt' shady to me.
You must be mezmo. "It felt shady"

Wow, can you give me some other stock tips based on your "feel" of them. Most people or investment firms aren't so gifted, so we rely on certain financial statements to be accurate. Like the balance sheet for example. Most of us do our Due diligence and determine whether or not something is a viable investment and at what level of risk.

We don't always have your gift of ESP when it comes to stock purchases. We mere mortals have no choice but to count on the integrity of the auditors.


Quote:
Originally posted by j8ear
It happened to ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO fell for the bloated inflated markets of the Clinton era. Gazillion dollar companies not even PROJECTED to make a penny for 10 years trading at $150.00 a share. What the fuck were those people thinking?
That is a totally different scenario. Enron was not supposed to be a high risk speculative buy. It's balance sheet showed strong earnings and a healthy financial situation.

Enron was not like buying shares in bid.com.

Quote:
Originally posted by j8ear
Finally what does Bush have to do with it? Do you think they are not pursuing every single solitary avenue available to them to secure some kind of conviction for all of those corporate crooks? They got Sullivan (WCOM CFO) and Enron's CFO too if I recall. And they have passed all kinds of NEW laws to hold people accountable for these types of failures in the future.
What Bush has to do with it is that his administration has taken NO action against the perpatrators of the crime at Enron. And make no mistake, these guys were criminals. As far as I am aware, no-one at Enron has done any time whatsoever. I am sure that if Bush wanted to get tough with crook CEO's, they would do something to deter this from happening again in the future, but they have not. That's why Bush. It's because it's his watch now.

The stock market tanked completely after Enron because investors simply lost their faith in the markets.

Last edited by james t kirk; 12-20-2003 at 06:58 AM..
james t kirk is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360