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Originally posted by ChrisJericho
Yes I know that the swastika is an ancient symbl with different meanings. I personally don't give a rat's ass if Microsoft removes it or not because I myself will NEVER use one.
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Fair Enough. Just don't remove other's freedoms to use one.
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Holo I think you would have a different attitude if you were in those camps.
I think you would have a diferent attitude if your family was stripped naked then gassed to death. MILLIONS of men, women, and children were murdered simply because of their ethnicity, and this symbol played a large part in it.
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So this maligned symbol marched all those people to their deaths by itself? No one here was in those camps so none of us can really claim being personally traumatized by the symbol. You may have a reaction due to ancestors who died under this Nazi-stolen symbol but unless you were beat down by neo-Nazis with the swastika in view you can't really claim personal trauma. And I stand by my point; this symbol was only used by the Nazi Party for like 20 years or so. The symbol is at least a couple thousand years old. It is still used to this day in the far east as a positive symbol. At least one Jew realizes this(link NSFW). Check out those pics. The Buddha is shown wearing a swastika in it's original position. Why must we attempt to bury a symbol with a rich history because of a brief affiliation with a crazed madman who decided to use it.
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The fact of the matter is the swastika means something different now.
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It doesn't have to.
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I am not Jewish, but after visiting the National Holocaust museum I'll be damned if I EVER draw or use a swastika.
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That is your decision. But given the facts presented in this thread do not judge me for my usage of it. And don't hate the symbol for being hijacked. This topic reminds me of blaming a rape victim for being raped, which is basically what everyone does when they condemn the swastika because of it's Nazi "affiliation".
Some good swastika links:
http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swastika_intro.htm
http://www.luckymojo.com/swastika.html
http://www.manwoman.net/swastika/swastika.html
http://history1900s.about.com/librar.../aa120699a.htm
*edited to fix quotes*
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I happen to like the words "fuck", "cock", "pussy", "tits", "cunt", "twat", "shit" and even "bitch". As long as I am not using them to describe you, don't go telling me whether or not I can/should use them...that is, if you want me to continue refraining from using them to describe you. ~Prince
Last edited by Peetster; 12-16-2003 at 08:44 AM..
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